Highest muzzle velocity of popular handguns

TXAZ · November 30, 2020, 03:32 PM

Other than the FN 5.7, what other common / popular handguns have very high muzzle velocities? (And no your Weatherby 7mm UHV cut down doesn’t count

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ballardw · November 30, 2020, 04:10 PM

.22TCM
7.62x25

You don't pick a definition for "high muzzle velocity".
Wouldn't be surprised to run into a common/popular discussion as well.

sparkyv · November 30, 2020, 05:46 PM

From their website: "Smith & Wesson's Model 460XVR, with the highest muzzle velocity of any production revolver on earth....to deliver maximum velocity - over 2,300 feet per second". I've clocked mine to just under 2,100fps with my handloads, so far.

DaleA · November 30, 2020, 06:12 PM

Quote:

I've clocked mine to just under 2,100fps with my handloads, so far.

Yowser! What weight bullet?

Jimbo-Indy · December 2, 2020, 08:12 PM

Had a CZ52 (7.62 x25) that got up to around 1750 with handloads of a 90 gn XTP over lots of H110. Just for fun, loaded up 5 rounds only of a 110 gn JHP over 4227 in a Ruger 357 Maximum, 7 1/2". Ran a tick over 2000 fps. None of these are recommended. "Don't try this at home"
Looks like the S&W 460 is the champ and does it safely with published/tested loads rather than very light bullets in large capacity cases.

Forte S+W · December 3, 2020, 11:50 AM

Popular? That would be Magnum Revolver cartridges.

There are a lot of high velocity pistol cartridges like .22TCM, 7.62x25 Tokarev, 5.7x28 FN, and .357 SIG to name a few, but they're mostly niche cartridge with a cult following.

CDW4ME · December 3, 2020, 02:34 PM

10mm says hello.
https://www.underwoodammo.com/collec...18785725284409
135 JHP @ 1,600 fps / 767# KE

volkstrm · December 3, 2020, 08:11 PM

357sig,7.62 mauser,7.62x25 the new 7.5. I forgot the 22tcm

rc · December 3, 2020, 09:39 PM

In common use 357 mag, 44 mag, 38 super, 9x23 winchester, 10mm

COSteve · December 3, 2020, 10:44 PM

Glock 40, 6" 10mm with my 165grn handloads.

I invented the Glock 10mm longslide in 2004 using a German G21 .45acp 6" slide. The 6" 45 acp barrel came from Jarvis and it balanced out really well, however, later in 2004 I decided that I wanted to see if I could convert it to also shoot 10mm.

I talked Kevin of KKM Precision into making me a 45 10mm conversion barrel for it. With a .45 LCI extractor, 10mm mags and Kevin's conversion barrel, I had the parts to assemble the world's first G20/21L. It's shown below the G21 version in the picture below.

With the 10mm barrel, my hottest 165grn handloads chrono at a blistering 1,589fps with 925ft/lbs of ME!!

Glock finally developed the G40 a few years ago but I can tell you from over 9,000rds of hot 10mm, the 6" 10mm is a powerful pistol. I went on to tweak it for USPSA limited shooting and then as just a fun shooter.

Currently, it looks like this with a hard chromed slide and mag well.

P Flados · December 4, 2020, 12:52 AM

The TC Contender / G2 platform has way outsold the S&W 460 / 500 guns.

Just to be reasonably fair, lets consider only 10" guns & cartridges first used in handguns.

My 30 Herrett, 7 TCU and 357 max barrels are all capable of fast shooting with hunting loads. I hit 2100 in the Max with a cast 160 gr bullet. The 30 Herrett has load data going to 2400 fps with a 110 gr. The 7 TCU has load data going to 2280 with a 130 gr.

I am not saying the Contender should be part of this discussion, but the S&W 460 is not exactly common / popular.

The 454 Casull is closer to meeting the common / popular criteria. Guns are available from a number of makers and you can buy loaded ammo. I believe you can get 260 gr ammo rated at 1800 fps.

DaleA · December 4, 2020, 03:21 PM

VERY nice looking pistol COSteve.

I recently got a Glock 20 and then got exchange guns with someone's Remington 1911 style long slide. I liked the long slide, he liked the capacity and just like the "Wow, I coulda had a V8!" commercial we both thought we coulda had a Glock 40 (and been ready for some kind of optical sight to boot!)

It's a classic case of the grass being greener and buyers remorse and I'm not trading my Glock 20 just thinking...well Christmas is coming...

JERRYS. · December 4, 2020, 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CDW4ME

10mm says hello.
https://www.underwoodammo.com/collec...18785725284409
135 JHP @ 1,600 fps / 767# KE

this!

**44 AMP** · December 8, 2020, 01:03 PM

My XP-100 .221 Fireball shows over 2700fps with certain loads.

That's popular with me.

Road_Clam · December 9, 2020, 02:43 PM

S&W 460XVR , my 12" bbl version shoots the factory Hornady 200 gr FTX ammo at an insane MV of 2326 fps through measured from my Alpha Chrony.

gemihur · December 9, 2020, 03:09 PM

I generally load my bullets to perform at around 2200 fps but I shoot a contender,
the handgun that thinks it's a rifle. Most of my barrels are wildcats, anyway.
14" SSK Bbl in 6x223

November 30, 2020, 03:32 PM	#1
TXAZ Senior Member Join Date: September 5, 2010 Location: McMurdo Sound Texas Posts: 4,322	Highest muzzle velocity of popular handguns Other than the FN 5.7, what other common / popular handguns have very high muzzle velocities? (And no your Weatherby 7mm UHV cut down doesn’t count ) __________________ Cave illos in guns et backhoes

November 30, 2020, 04:10 PM	#2
ballardw Senior Member Join Date: September 19, 2008 Posts: 1,411	.22TCM 7.62x25 You don't pick a definition for "high muzzle velocity". Wouldn't be surprised to run into a common/popular discussion as well. __________________ -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ All data is flawed, some just less so.

November 30, 2020, 05:46 PM	#3
sparkyv Senior Member Join Date: May 2, 2015 Location: Deepinnaheartta,Texas Posts: 318	From their website: "Smith & Wesson's Model 460XVR, with the highest muzzle velocity of any production revolver on earth....to deliver maximum velocity - over 2,300 feet per second". I've clocked mine to just under 2,100fps with my handloads, so far. __________________ μολὼν λαβέ NRA Life Member

December 3, 2020, 11:50 AM	#6
Forte S+W Senior Member Join Date: October 12, 2019 Posts: 819	Popular? That would be Magnum Revolver cartridges. There are a lot of high velocity pistol cartridges like .22TCM, 7.62x25 Tokarev, 5.7x28 FN, and .357 SIG to name a few, but they're mostly niche cartridge with a cult following. __________________ Conspiracy theorists are the greatest political spin-doctors of all time. Only they can make the absolute worst political blunders sound like spectacular feats of ingenuity.

December 3, 2020, 02:34 PM	#7
CDW4ME Senior Member Join Date: March 18, 2009 Posts: 1,321	10mm says hello. https://www.underwoodammo.com/collec...18785725284409 135 JHP @ 1,600 fps / 767# KE __________________ Strive to carry the handgun you would want anywhere, everywhere; forget that good area bullcrap. "Wouldn't want to / Nobody volunteer to" get shot by _____ is not indicative of quickly incapacitating.

December 2, 2020, 08:12 PM	#5
Jimbo-Indy Senior Member Join Date: August 27, 2008 Location: Owasso, OK Posts: 334	Had a CZ52 (7.62 x25) that got up to around 1750 with handloads of a 90 gn XTP over lots of H110. Just for fun, loaded up 5 rounds only of a 110 gn JHP over 4227 in a Ruger 357 Maximum, 7 1/2". Ran a tick over 2000 fps. None of these are recommended. "Don't try this at home" Looks like the S&W 460 is the champ and does it safely with published/tested loads rather than very light bullets in large capacity cases.

December 3, 2020, 08:11 PM	#8
volkstrm Senior Member Join Date: November 10, 2007 Posts: 222	357sig,7.62 mauser,7.62x25 the new 7.5. I forgot the 22tcm Last edited by volkstrm; December 3, 2020 at 08:26 PM.

December 3, 2020, 09:39 PM	#9
rc Senior Member Join Date: April 28, 2001 Location: CA Posts: 1,768	In common use 357 mag, 44 mag, 38 super, 9x23 winchester, 10mm

December 3, 2020, 10:44 PM	#10
COSteve Senior Member Join Date: September 6, 2009 Posts: 1,344	Glock 40, 6" 10mm with my 165grn handloads. I invented the Glock 10mm longslide in 2004 using a German G21 .45acp 6" slide. The 6" 45 acp barrel came from Jarvis and it balanced out really well, however, later in 2004 I decided that I wanted to see if I could convert it to also shoot 10mm. I talked Kevin of KKM Precision into making me a 45 10mm conversion barrel for it. With a .45 LCI extractor, 10mm mags and Kevin's conversion barrel, I had the parts to assemble the world's first G20/21L. It's shown below the G21 version in the picture below. With the 10mm barrel, my hottest 165grn handloads chrono at a blistering 1,589fps with 925ft/lbs of ME!! Glock finally developed the G40 a few years ago but I can tell you from over 9,000rds of hot 10mm, the 6" 10mm is a powerful pistol. I went on to tweak it for USPSA limited shooting and then as just a fun shooter. Currently, it looks like this with a hard chromed slide and mag well.

December 4, 2020, 12:52 AM	#11
P Flados Senior Member Join Date: January 8, 2017 Location: Wilmington NC Posts: 243	The TC Contender / G2 platform has way outsold the S&W 460 / 500 guns. Just to be reasonably fair, lets consider only 10" guns & cartridges first used in handguns. My 30 Herrett, 7 TCU and 357 max barrels are all capable of fast shooting with hunting loads. I hit 2100 in the Max with a cast 160 gr bullet. The 30 Herrett has load data going to 2400 fps with a 110 gr. The 7 TCU has load data going to 2280 with a 130 gr. I am not saying the Contender should be part of this discussion, but the S&W 460 is not exactly common / popular. The 454 Casull is closer to meeting the common / popular criteria. Guns are available from a number of makers and you can buy loaded ammo. I believe you can get 260 gr ammo rated at 1800 fps.

December 4, 2020, 03:21 PM	#12
DaleA Senior Member Join Date: September 12, 2002 Location: Twin Cities, MN Posts: 5,313	VERY nice looking pistol COSteve. I recently got a Glock 20 and then got exchange guns with someone's Remington 1911 style long slide. I liked the long slide, he liked the capacity and just like the "Wow, I coulda had a V8!" commercial we both thought we coulda had a Glock 40 (and been ready for some kind of optical sight to boot!) It's a classic case of the grass being greener and buyers remorse and I'm not trading my Glock 20 just thinking...well Christmas is coming...

December 8, 2020, 01:03 PM	#14
44 AMP Staff Join Date: March 11, 2006 Location: Upper US Posts: 28,846	My XP-100 .221 Fireball shows over 2700fps with certain loads. That's popular with me. __________________ All else being equal (and it almost never is) bigger bullets tend to work better.

December 9, 2020, 02:43 PM	#15
Road_Clam Senior Member Join Date: November 21, 2013 Location: New Hampshire Posts: 1,695	S&W 460XVR , my 12" bbl version shoots the factory Hornady 200 gr FTX ammo at an insane MV of 2326 fps through measured from my Alpha Chrony. __________________ "To be old an wise you must have been young and stupid" Last edited by Road_Clam; December 9, 2020 at 02:50 PM.

December 9, 2020, 03:09 PM	#16
gemihur Member Join Date: July 5, 2011 Location: VA ridgelines Posts: 52	I generally load my bullets to perform at around 2200 fps but I shoot a contender, the handgun that thinks it's a rifle. Most of my barrels are wildcats, anyway. 14" SSK Bbl in 6x223