.22 Magnum vs. 9mm - Page 2

ThomasT · May 29, 2019, 10:50 AM

Seven year old Zombie thread by a new guy. Bullets don't "bounce around" in a body like a ball in a pinball machine. They may deflect but thats about it. A bullet is spent in just a fraction of a second and have no time to bounce around.

Hodge370 welcome to the forum but if you want to talk about stuff please start a new thread instead of dragging up the long dead ones.

hagar · May 29, 2019, 01:05 PM

The biggest negative of a 22 magnum in a pistol, it is very loud! As loud as a 357 magnum almost. I had one of the old AMT Automags with a 6 inch barrel I bought to finish off wounded coyotes, but it was too loud to shoot without ear protection. The 22 mag in a rifle on the other hand is very pleasant to shoot.

Armybrat · June 1, 2019, 09:42 AM

.22 mag will ruin anybody’s day.

Don Fischer · June 1, 2019, 10:00 AM

Love it. We are comparing a 40gr 22 cal bullet to a 124gr 9mm bullet. And the winner is!

kenny53 · June 1, 2019, 11:48 AM

Don Fischer I vote for the 9mm,, did I win? I have a 22 mag in my front pocket as I type this. I like it as a back up. Well the truth is I just like it and if that is all I had I would be happy.

Leaf · June 1, 2019, 02:45 PM

I've seen human head shots with .22lr out of a rifle and .22 magnum out of a revolver, both at close range. No exit wound with the .22lr and large chunks of bone and brain matter from the exit wound of a .22 magnum. .22 magnum will also often pass through lower levels of ballistic armor. 9mm and .38 special have no problem making it through a human skull and leaving a mess but neither will make it through the lower level ballistic armor like a .22 magnum.

Leaf · June 1, 2019, 02:58 PM

(Once upon a time I had a string of bad luck and had to investigate a lot of suicides).

**Mal H** · June 1, 2019, 03:03 PM

EVERYONE - please look at the date of the post you might be tempted to reply to. The thread started about 7 years ago, and Glock19Fan hasn't been around for about 5 years. If the post is recent, then have at it.

**JohnKSa** · June 1, 2019, 03:05 PM

Bill Jordan, of the Border Patrol, was reportedly a fan of the .22Magnum and thought it was a decent choice for self-defense.

It's probably not a direction I would look, but it might be a reasonable option for some folks.

wild cat mccane · June 1, 2019, 08:16 PM

Believe it or not, the US Border Patrol has next to zero experience killing people.

Hope that doesn't shock anyone's political beliefs in the climate that everyone at the border is a mercenary

**JohnKSa** · June 1, 2019, 08:48 PM

Then, as now, there were ways to determine whether or not a cartridge might be useful for self-defense without using it to kill people.

Which is very fortunate for internet forums--imagine how quiet this place would be if the only people allowed to voice an opinion on caliber effectiveness were those who had "experience killing people" with the caliber being discussed.

JERRYS. · June 2, 2019, 07:32 AM

bullet for bullet I'd take the 9mm any day of the week. there would have to be some serious issue as to why I would have to carry/use the 22 magnum over the 9mm.

ms6852 · June 2, 2019, 11:25 AM

Joaquin Jackson was a Texas Ranger who carried a 22 magnum as a backup gun. During the summer times when I wear light clothing I carry a Kel-Tec PMR. I load 25 rounds in the magazine with CCI 40 grain maxi mag bullets. I carry two extra mags for a total of 76 rounds of 22 mag. The loaded handgun weighs in under 19 ounces and I feel very confident with this setup as it is a lot of firepower I carry.

rodfac · June 5, 2019, 07:49 AM

Both of JohnKSa's comments above are right on the mark.

For those who haven't read Border Patrolman, Bill Jordan's eminently readable, "No Second Place Winner", you're missing out on a seasoned LEO's perspective on self defense & a sworn officer's technique/equipment.

Charles Askins also wrote about the turbulent times on our southern border in years past...the Border Patrol had a lot of experience in armed conflict....YMMv Rod

Hal · June 6, 2019, 09:18 AM

Inuit hunters favor the .22 mag because they can carry a lot of ammo.
Inuit hunters hunt polar bears with the .22 magnum.

That's 7 kinds of nuts.....

Sgt127 · June 8, 2019, 12:43 PM

I patrolled a bad area, by myself, for awhile. I carried a S&W 650 as a BUG.

I could also, easily, carry 50 extra rounds in my pocket.

Greatest gun ever for gunfight? Maybe not. But, I could potentially stay in a fight a little longer until help got there with 50 extra rounds.

That was my thinking at the time.

kymasabe · June 8, 2019, 05:35 PM

Nothing like resurrecting a 7 year old thread.

MR.G · July 7, 2019, 07:36 PM

Been trying to find some of the .22 magnum Short Barrel Gold Dot ammunition lately and ran across this thread. It doesn't exist around here. Would consider carrying my NAA mini revolver if I could find some.

May 29, 2019, 01:05 PM	#27
hagar Senior Member Join Date: February 20, 2000 Location: Colombia, SC Posts: 745	The biggest negative of a 22 magnum in a pistol, it is very loud! As loud as a 357 magnum almost. I had one of the old AMT Automags with a 6 inch barrel I bought to finish off wounded coyotes, but it was too loud to shoot without ear protection. The 22 mag in a rifle on the other hand is very pleasant to shoot. __________________ I don't have time for busy people

June 1, 2019, 03:05 PM	#34
JohnKSa Staff Join Date: February 12, 2001 Location: DFW Area Posts: 24,971	Bill Jordan, of the Border Patrol, was reportedly a fan of the .22Magnum and thought it was a decent choice for self-defense. It's probably not a direction I would look, but it might be a reasonable option for some folks. __________________ Do you know about the TEXAS State Rifle Association?

June 1, 2019, 08:48 PM	#36
JohnKSa Staff Join Date: February 12, 2001 Location: DFW Area Posts: 24,971	Then, as now, there were ways to determine whether or not a cartridge might be useful for self-defense without using it to kill people. Which is very fortunate for internet forums--imagine how quiet this place would be if the only people allowed to voice an opinion on caliber effectiveness were those who had "experience killing people" with the caliber being discussed. __________________ Do you know about the TEXAS State Rifle Association?

June 2, 2019, 11:25 AM	#38
ms6852 Senior Member Join Date: April 3, 2010 Location: Texas Posts: 1,394	Joaquin Jackson was a Texas Ranger who carried a 22 magnum as a backup gun. During the summer times when I wear light clothing I carry a Kel-Tec PMR. I load 25 rounds in the magazine with CCI 40 grain maxi mag bullets. I carry two extra mags for a total of 76 rounds of 22 mag. The loaded handgun weighs in under 19 ounces and I feel very confident with this setup as it is a lot of firepower I carry. __________________ ONLY TWO DEFINING FORCES HAVE GIVEN UP THEIR LIVES FOR YOU. ONE IS JESUS CHRIST FOR YOUR SOUL AND THE OTHER IS THE AMERICAN SOLDIER FOR YOUR FREEDOM.

June 5, 2019, 07:49 AM	#39
rodfac Senior Member Join Date: January 22, 2005 Location: Kentucky Posts: 3,623	Both of JohnKSa's comments above are right on the mark. For those who haven't read Border Patrolman, Bill Jordan's eminently readable, "No Second Place Winner", you're missing out on a seasoned LEO's perspective on self defense & a sworn officer's technique/equipment. Charles Askins also wrote about the turbulent times on our southern border in years past...the Border Patrol had a lot of experience in armed conflict....YMMv Rod __________________ Cherish our flag, honor it, defend it in word and deed, or get the hell out. Our Bill of Rights has been paid for by heros in uniform and shall not be diluted by misguided governmental social experiments. We owe this to our children, anything less is cowardice. USAF FAC, 5th Spl Forces, Vietnam Vet '69-'73. Last edited by rodfac; June 5, 2019 at 08:10 AM.

May 29, 2019, 10:50 AM	#26
ThomasT Senior Member Join Date: January 22, 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 2,753	Seven year old Zombie thread by a new guy. Bullets don't "bounce around" in a body like a ball in a pinball machine. They may deflect but thats about it. A bullet is spent in just a fraction of a second and have no time to bounce around. Hodge370 welcome to the forum but if you want to talk about stuff please start a new thread instead of dragging up the long dead ones.

June 1, 2019, 09:42 AM	#28
Armybrat Senior Member Join Date: May 10, 2009 Location: Round Rock, Texas Posts: 976	.22 mag will ruin anybody’s day.

June 1, 2019, 10:00 AM	#29
Don Fischer Senior Member Join Date: March 2, 2017 Posts: 1,868	Love it. We are comparing a 40gr 22 cal bullet to a 124gr 9mm bullet. And the winner is!

June 1, 2019, 11:48 AM	#30
kenny53 Senior Member Join Date: December 30, 2015 Location: My back yard Posts: 971	Don Fischer I vote for the 9mm,, did I win? I have a 22 mag in my front pocket as I type this. I like it as a back up. Well the truth is I just like it and if that is all I had I would be happy.

June 1, 2019, 02:45 PM	#31
Leaf Junior member Join Date: August 11, 2018 Posts: 198	I've seen human head shots with .22lr out of a rifle and .22 magnum out of a revolver, both at close range. No exit wound with the .22lr and large chunks of bone and brain matter from the exit wound of a .22 magnum. .22 magnum will also often pass through lower levels of ballistic armor. 9mm and .38 special have no problem making it through a human skull and leaving a mess but neither will make it through the lower level ballistic armor like a .22 magnum.

June 1, 2019, 02:58 PM	#32
Leaf Junior member Join Date: August 11, 2018 Posts: 198	(Once upon a time I had a string of bad luck and had to investigate a lot of suicides).

June 1, 2019, 03:03 PM	#33
Mal H Staff Join Date: March 20, 1999 Location: Somewhere in the woods of Northern Virginia Posts: 16,947	EVERYONE - please look at the date of the post you might be tempted to reply to. The thread started about 7 years ago, and Glock19Fan hasn't been around for about 5 years. If the post is recent, then have at it.

June 1, 2019, 08:16 PM	#35
wild cat mccane Senior Member Join Date: May 22, 2011 Posts: 3,622	Believe it or not, the US Border Patrol has next to zero experience killing people. Hope that doesn't shock anyone's political beliefs in the climate that everyone at the border is a mercenary

June 2, 2019, 07:32 AM	#37
JERRYS. Senior Member Join Date: September 23, 2013 Location: Alabama Posts: 2,968	bullet for bullet I'd take the 9mm any day of the week. there would have to be some serious issue as to why I would have to carry/use the 22 magnum over the 9mm.

June 6, 2019, 09:18 AM	#40
Hal Senior Member Join Date: October 9, 1998 Location: Ohio USA Posts: 8,563	Inuit hunters favor the .22 mag because they can carry a lot of ammo. Inuit hunters hunt polar bears with the .22 magnum. That's 7 kinds of nuts.....

June 8, 2019, 12:43 PM	#41
Sgt127 Senior Member Join Date: May 13, 2002 Posts: 1,053	I patrolled a bad area, by myself, for awhile. I carried a S&W 650 as a BUG. I could also, easily, carry 50 extra rounds in my pocket. Greatest gun ever for gunfight? Maybe not. But, I could potentially stay in a fight a little longer until help got there with 50 extra rounds. That was my thinking at the time.

June 8, 2019, 05:35 PM	#42
kymasabe Senior Member Join Date: June 10, 2005 Location: SW Florida Posts: 2,747	Nothing like resurrecting a 7 year old thread. __________________ God's creatures big and small, eat them one, eat them all.

July 7, 2019, 07:36 PM	#43
MR.G Senior Member Join Date: July 20, 2001 Posts: 641	Been trying to find some of the .22 magnum Short Barrel Gold Dot ammunition lately and ran across this thread. It doesn't exist around here. Would consider carrying my NAA mini revolver if I could find some.

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