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Old January 9, 2017, 03:18 PM   #1
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New 1911, whaaaaat?

From Hudson Manufacturing. Not sure what to think.

http://www.recoilweb.com/wp-content/...revealed03.jpg

http://www.outdoorhub.com/news/2017/...er-fired-1911/
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Old January 9, 2017, 03:19 PM   #2
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I hate it
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Old January 9, 2017, 03:31 PM   #3
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It's striker fired...should it be called a 1911?

But thanks for posting this.
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Old January 9, 2017, 03:40 PM   #4
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It's NOT a 1911.
It's STYLED after the 1911.
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Old January 9, 2017, 03:42 PM   #5
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It's STYLED after the 1911.
And barely, at that.
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Old January 9, 2017, 03:48 PM   #6
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1911?

I'm speechless.
Slanderous to infer that this pistol is a 1911.
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Old January 9, 2017, 03:55 PM   #7
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This pistol resembles an M1911 the way that a 2016 Ford Mustang resembles a 1968 Ford Mustang, or the way a Boeing 787 resembles a 707. The profile is just barely reminiscent, and the underlying design may be broadly similar in concept, but everything else is different.

It's only an M1911 in the imagination of Hudson's marketing department, which is apparently achieving its purpose in prompting us to pay attention to the product.

[EDIT TO ADD] It's worth mentioning that a polymer-frame 1911-style 15rd 9mm pistol has been done before, the first I know of being the Wilson Combat KZ-9. That's presumably why Hudson is making a big deal about this gun being striker-fired.
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Old January 9, 2017, 04:04 PM   #8
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Not sure where the Outdoor Hub got 1911 from.

The only reference Hudson makes to a 1911 is that this gun has a 1911 style trigger. Nothing else.
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Old January 9, 2017, 04:09 PM   #9
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Yeah, ok. I think the "loosely inspired" is more appropriate.

Personally I think Hi Point and Glock are being challenged to the ugliest pistol title.
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Old January 9, 2017, 04:12 PM   #10
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I will wait to see some reviews. Does not float my boat.
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Old January 9, 2017, 04:13 PM   #11
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I kinda like it.
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Old January 9, 2017, 04:14 PM   #12
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The trigger safety looks interesting.

A 1911-style trigger is not the only component of a 1911.

Beyond the audacity of claiming the gun is some sort of 1911 variant, the $1,147 MSRP is absolutely ridiculous.
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Old January 9, 2017, 04:20 PM   #13
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Personally I think Hi Point and Glock are being challenged to the ugliest pistol title.
Agreed. I might actually take a Hi Point over this monstrosity though. Never know when I might need a hammer.
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Old January 9, 2017, 04:32 PM   #14
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Not something I want ( and I love 1911's ) ...but it may find a niche...
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Old January 9, 2017, 05:01 PM   #15
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Could it be named after the old Hudson car?
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Old January 9, 2017, 05:12 PM   #16
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It's a Hornet with a striker-fired stinger!
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Old January 9, 2017, 05:42 PM   #17
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I'm actually a little surprised this hasn't happened earlier. Will be interesting to see if this concept gains ground.
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Old January 9, 2017, 05:56 PM   #18
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I think there are way, way too many 1911 purists to let this 'thing' to get a hold. This will be discounted within a year. Truth is it may be a great gun but it will never be able to stand up on it's own.
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Old January 9, 2017, 06:05 PM   #19
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1911 style trigger and 1911-esque grip. There endeth the 1911 links!

All the same, I quite like it.

I don't have any personal attachment to 1911s so I guess I'm less likely to draw direct comparisons.

But here we have a pistol that is relatively compact, decent capacity, ostensilby decent ergos and what looks like an absurdly low bore-axis.

That should all make for an interesting pistol!
I do agree that the company should limit their attempts to boost this gun with tenuous links to the cult 1911 design with many strict followers.

There is enough going on to make this a potential success.

However, the problem is that many times people cry out for something novel, something that is not just a rehash of an existing design.
Yet when they get it people then shy away from it as too new and outside the comfort zone.

Could the same be happening here?
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Old January 9, 2017, 07:30 PM   #20
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My wife might think it is a 1911. She thinks all my guns look the same. She can tell the difference between handguns and long guns though.
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Old January 9, 2017, 07:35 PM   #21
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Old January 9, 2017, 07:39 PM   #22
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Anyone shot this think before we kill it?
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Old January 9, 2017, 07:46 PM   #23
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1911, no way, potentially a sellable new pistol? Could be, but want to read some reviews and get a chance to handle one.
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Old January 9, 2017, 08:04 PM   #24
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C'mon...another 1911 with forward cocking serrations....GEEZ.

I think the local energy utility in Temple, Tx needs to head over to Hudson MFG and check for a gas leak..

I'm speechless...
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Old January 9, 2017, 08:26 PM   #25
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It's striker fired...should it be called a 1911?
No. The patent for the pistol adopted by the U.S. Ordnance Department included a description, and the description included a hammer. This is not a 1911.

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It's NOT a 1911.
It's STYLED after the 1911.
Then why doesn't it look even vaguely like a 1911?

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Could it be named after the old Hudson car?
My first car as a teenager was a 1950 Hudson. Hudsons were characterized by excellent engineering and superior performance. I see nothing to suggest that this atrocity offrs either. Trying to relate it to the Hudson motor car is just as wrong-headed as trying to call it a 1911.

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However, the problem is that many times people cry out for something novel, something that is not just a rehash of an existing design.
Yet when they get it people then shy away from it as too new and outside the comfort zone.
The oproblem is not that people resist something new. The problem is that whoever is behind this has apparently made an intentional effort to link this "something new" to something old that is often considered to be the finest semi-automatic handgun ever designed. IMHO, if you want to successfully promote something new, you don't tie it to a 100-plus-year old design.
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