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Old December 20, 2016, 06:41 AM   #1
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New luger

I've wanted one for a while and do not know much about them. I was able to pick this up this weekend for a reasonable price. Any help with identification on this would be much appreciated.
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Old December 20, 2016, 08:25 AM   #2
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You got a Mauser manufactured pre-war gun, are the numbers matching? Proofmarks look right for the period, but aren't very deep what has me wonder if the gun was refinished. If the numbers are matching and the finish is real, probably worth over $2000, if mismatched and refinished half that.
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Old December 20, 2016, 09:03 AM   #3
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Hello. Yes all the numbers match. I'm unsure if it's been refinished though. Payed 900 for it so either way I think I did ok
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Old December 20, 2016, 09:19 AM   #4
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Hey, I had one just like that. Really, a 1936 S/42. Sold it to a collector when I could no longer get the Canadian surplus 9mm it shot reliably.

The extractor looks purple in the picture. Is it really or is it just the lighting?
Do the trigger, takedown, safety, mag catch and ejector retain the "straw" color?
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Old December 20, 2016, 09:29 AM   #5
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$900 for a nice looking and functional pre war Luger is a good deal. Congrats!!!
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Old December 20, 2016, 09:38 AM   #6
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Mitchell Arms Luger

Why does the Mitchell Arms "Luger" not get any love? Mine seems to be identical to any "authentic" Luger. It shoots well and the stainless finish is terrific. Seems that these would be sought after but not case. Never even mentioned.
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Old December 20, 2016, 11:04 AM   #7
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the extractor is not purple, I think its the light but there is a color difference. Ill try taking another photo when I get home
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Old December 20, 2016, 02:33 PM   #8
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S/42 is the code for Mauser manufacture, under military contract.

I have a 1936 S/42 though it is not matching and has been reblued. The 1936 s/42 is considered a "common" Luger, and approximately 89,500 were made.

Original finish is salt blue, with the extractor, mag catch, takedown lever, safety lever, and trigger straw colored.

Original magazines should have the aluminum base, and be serial #'d to the gun.

The full serial number is found on the bottom of the barrel, front of the frame, and left side of the receiver. The last 2 digits of the ser # are on the breechblock (lower left side), extractor, front toggle link (bottom), rear toggle link (back), Sear (left side), sear bar safety lever, side plate, takedown lever (bottom), thumb safety lever (top), trigger (top left), and grips (inside)

Book value (matching gun) "good" finish was $1000, in 2006 (the date of my book )

I'd say you got a good deal for $900.

Stick with standard velocity 115gr (or 124gr) stuff. NO +P!!!!!

Now, you need a holster, and the loading tool!
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Old December 20, 2016, 03:45 PM   #9
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The gun has been refinished.
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Old December 20, 2016, 05:33 PM   #10
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What makes you say it was refinished? Trying to learn as much as I can about these guns
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Old December 20, 2016, 05:57 PM   #11
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Well, as 44 AMP said, the smaller parts on early S/42s originally would be straw colored, not blue. This is a fragile "bluing" and can fade away so when the pistol is reblued the small parts also are blued. I think around 1938 the S/42 small parts weren't strawed any longer.

Still it looks really good for $900!
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Old December 20, 2016, 06:20 PM   #12
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Mauser S/42 1937 Date Late Finish
All parts finished in salt blue. No straw color parts.
Mauser dropped the straw color finish on the small parts during the 1937 production run. Early 1937s have straw colors, late ones don't.
All Mauser Lugers after this were also done the same way.

I have data that says Krieghoff guns kept the straw colors until the end of production (300 pistols in 1943, 100 in 1944)

Mass production of the P.08 ended in 1942.
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Old December 23, 2016, 04:34 AM   #13
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Why does the Mitchell Arms "Luger" not get any love? Mine seems to be identical to any "authentic" Luger. It shoots well and the stainless finish is terrific. Seems that these would be sought after but not case. Never even mentioned.
I had an opportunity to handle a NIB Mitchel a couple weeks ago and the fit around the toggle was not as close as German made Lugers. I mostly felt the use of stainless did not look right. Really the "look" was wrong. it seems a shame for what must have been a significant effort, to miss the mark with stainless. It is similar to the Henry lever actions. Just missed the mark. In blue steel I might have taken it home for the short money involved.
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Old December 23, 2016, 11:26 AM   #14
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Mauser Original Parabellum Pistols made and imported 40 some years ago. I had a few but didn't shoot them often.
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Old December 23, 2016, 05:12 PM   #15
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I shoot my Luger once a year, in an IDPA grudge match with a buddy who also has one.
Two parts broke while I was shooting on Saturday; luckily, neither is a fitted or numbered part, so it's just a matter of finding a place that has them in stock at something less than highway-robbery prices.
Any time you shoot an old gun, you're risking the originality that is so important to the value.
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Old December 23, 2016, 09:58 PM   #16
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I mostly felt the use of stainless did not look right. Really the "look" was wrong. it seems a shame for what must have been a significant effort, to miss the mark with stainless. It is similar to the Henry lever actions. Just missed the mark
Everyone has their own opinion, of course. I rather like the look of the stainless Luger I have. I do not know the Mitchell, mine is a Stoeger.

Stainless steel, mine is an excellent copy of the P.08, even has an American Eagle on the chamber and magazine bottoms. Made in TEXAS..

Mine is not a PERFECT copy of a Luger, its very slightly "off" in dimensions, actual P.08 mags will not work. Deliberate, I think. Still a really neat piece, I got it unfired, but it didn't stay that way.
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Old December 23, 2016, 10:54 PM   #17
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I too would like to add one of those to my collection but dont know enough to pay that kind of money. But to find one for 900 I think I would even jump on that.

Very Nice pistol good luck with it and have fun..
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