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Old January 8, 2017, 01:21 PM   #1
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Type 1 Prototype Arisaka

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I recently came across an old japanese rifle that folds at the stock. I am sure my Grandfather brought it back from the war. It includes the bayonett. After some research I see that it is called the type 1 paratrooper prototype? Does anyone have anymore info on the rifle? What is it worth? It has no sentimental value to me so I wouldn't mind getting rid of it.
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Old January 8, 2017, 01:28 PM   #2
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I have only ever seen two, and I collected Arisakas for years. I would imagine they are in the "Couple thousand" range by now. The T-99 Take-downs are really up there and they are pretty common.
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Old January 8, 2017, 03:47 PM   #3
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Pretty rare beast. I think there were only a couple of hundred made. Last time I saw one auctioned it brought over $4000, but it was in pretty nice shape. I'd say you would have no problem selling it for well north of $2000 if it is genuine. It should be a Nagoya series 4 or 5 and there is a certain serial number range they fall in, but I can't remember the correct range right now.
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Old January 9, 2017, 08:04 AM   #4
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How about a shot of the left side.
Make sure to include front and rear sling swivels as well.

The top of the receiver was almost always marked as to the 'Type' of the gun.
A photo of that will let us all know what Model it is and show the tang as well.

Rarity of the uncommon Japanese WWII weapons makes auction the only way to get a definitive value.

If the gun is straight(matching and unground), the 4000 range as mentioned sounds close,
although there are not enough of these in circulation to pin down any harder figure, at least to me.

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Old January 9, 2017, 11:43 AM   #5
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Old January 9, 2017, 11:45 AM   #6
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Old January 9, 2017, 11:47 AM   #7
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Old January 9, 2017, 10:34 PM   #8
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Anybody else? Would gunbroker do it justice?
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Old January 9, 2017, 10:58 PM   #9
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i would not get rid of this,,only pics i have seen in 20 yrs. of one,,wowwwww,cool rifle
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Old January 9, 2017, 11:31 PM   #10
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The series marking does not seem to conform to the Nagoya series 4 and 5 and the serial number is higher than I would expect. The rifle appears to be a so-called Type 38 folding stock carbine, and a rare piece, but it is pretty crude even by the standards of that production.

The receiver markings, including the serial number, are standard for a Type 38.

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Old January 10, 2017, 05:14 AM   #11
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It does look like a series 4 marking from the photo to me and the gun parts on it look to be correct for finish and variation.
I do not know the serial range used for the folding sock mods though.
IMO.
The carbine you have is very collectible, even in that shape, providing the parts all check out.

I only mention the below text as you are new here.
If you have on-line auction expertise, please ignore it.

Gunbroker, What's your experience level with it?
It is a little more complicated than putting those photos on.
What is your GB rating and how much of that is in sales?

Please take no offense, but the photos would obviously need to be of much
higher quality and detail for you to be able to realize the value of the gun.
(And you would still be bucking your rating or lack thereof.)
If you do not have a good sales rating, your best bet would be to look
into consigning it with one of the top sellers on GB or one of the other gun sales sites.

These top sellers have one thing in common though.
They list all of their auctions at no reserve, period.

Thanks for sharing the photos,
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Old January 10, 2017, 11:32 PM   #12
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this is a first for me but I'm fairly new to arisakas, never have heard of a type 38 with a folding stock.
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Old January 12, 2017, 08:53 PM   #13
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Looks legit from what I know from the photos, but I'm no expert. If this was a bring back gun from my grandfather, there is no way I'd consider selling it at any price. This is one of those guns that you will definitely regret selling in your old age.

However, If you are determined to sell, the key to getting the best price on GB lots of very high quality photos of every part of the rifle with a good background for the photos. Put it up at no reserve, which attracts more buyers, and lets people know you are confident that you have a jewel. Then post as much info about the rifle as you can dig up, sit back and watch the numbers grow. Your rifle is in much rougher shape than the last one I saw sold that brought over $4000, but that was a couple of years ago. Anyhow I probably wouldn't count on hitting that number, but you never know with GB. There are guys out there that would absolutely love to have one of these guns in their collection.
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Old January 13, 2017, 08:54 AM   #14
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If I were to buy a rifle like this on an auction website I would want to see some kind of an appraisal or guarantee that it is what you say it is. It may be better to send this to one of the classic firearm website/stores. They would be able to authenticate it for sale and set a reasonable price or possibly list for auction.
Some suggestions, not endorsements:
www.simpsonltd.com
www.libertytreecollectors.com
http://www.leroymerz.com/
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