Olympic Biathelon

Big Shrek · February 11, 2018, 09:08 PM

What are they shooting this year?

They look pretty cool

TrueBlue711 · February 12, 2018, 11:36 AM

I'm not sure who makes the ones that they're shooting, but Anshutz makes similar rifles (https://www.anschutznorthamerica.com/match-rifles.html). Very expensive rifles designed for each individual shooter. Big thing I noticed about the olympic rifles is the bolt. It's not a typical lift and pull style. They just pull it back just using their thumb and not lose sight picture.
Also, they're bolt action, so this thread should probably belong in that thread category.

EDIT: Here's another thread recently posted about the same thing: https://thefiringline.com/forums/sho...94#post6573894
Looks like Fortner modifies guns like Anshutz for Biathelon purposes.

doofus47 · February 12, 2018, 11:40 AM

Anschutz for the most part. I think I've seen one Izmash.

Straight pull bolts for all the cool kids. Mine is ghetto: a turn bolt Savage--b/c I don't shoot well enough or ski well enough to deserve the more expensive rifle.

Definitely a fun sport to watch.

jrothWA · February 12, 2018, 09:22 PM

"lever-action Anshutch, which the wrist of stock, cycles the actio,

For me I'll stick with my Marlin 2000, having used it with the Washington Bilathlon Association.

T. O'Heir · February 13, 2018, 02:06 PM

"...Fortner pull-push action..." It's a .22 LR, straight pull, bolt action. The 'Fortner' part is just the bolt handle extension. Makes the rifles horrendously expensive even for Anschutz.
And it's Biathlon. Originally shot with cf rifles until the Olympic Committee wussed it up in 1978.

doofus47 · February 13, 2018, 03:56 PM

It's not lever action.
There was a Suhl biathlon rifle that had a lever action based on a moving handgrip, but the Anschutz are straight pull.

DaleA · February 13, 2018, 05:52 PM

Whenever we talk about Biathlon I like to refer folk to the following video. It was produced by Ruger and it has Annelies Cook of the US Biathlon team describing the sport.

Annelies Cook is young, enthusiastic and just a great spokes person for shooting sports and even though she calls a magazine a clip, because she can out shoot me seven ways from Sunday, I just don't care.

The video is on the Ruger site and youtube.
https://ruger.com/videos.html?vid=131253202&cat=3782644
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGx03PheuUw

but go to the Ruger site, they've got quite a few videos there and I'd like to encourage them to make more.

tobnpr · February 13, 2018, 06:54 PM

Def bad-azz rifles.
But why is this thread in the autoloader forum?

blackwidowp61 · February 13, 2018, 10:17 PM

Somebody hasn't taken the time to move it yet. Paging Mr. Eatman...

hdwhit · February 15, 2018, 02:28 PM

Here's the link to Fortner's biathlon rifle site:
http://www.fortner-biathlon.com/

The shooting part of the biathlon doesn't seem all that difficult; it's 50 meters firing prone for targets about 2 inches in diameter or standing for targets a little over 4 inches in diameter. What makes it tricky is having just skied cross-country for a mile or more at a world-class pace, you have to come to a stop, get the rifle shouldered and get your breathing under control enough to make those shots in a few seconds.

Jim Watson · February 15, 2018, 02:59 PM

Interesting, when they fire the last shot in a string, they sling up and ski away. When they get back to the firing line you can see them drop and stow the empty magazine, load a fresh one, and eject the last case. I am sure they have done time and motion studies to know that is the fast approach.

Fishbed77 · February 15, 2018, 05:16 PM

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Interesting, when they fire the last shot in a string, they sling up and ski away. When they get back to the firing line you can see them drop and stow the empty magazine, load a fresh one, and eject the last case. I am sure they have done time and motion studies to know that is the fast approach.

I'm not an expert on the subject, but perhaps that gives them a few moments to catch their breath and lower their heart rate before firing.

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zukiphile · February 15, 2018, 08:15 PM

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Interesting, when they fire the last shot in a string, they sling up and ski away. When they get back to the firing line you can see them drop and stow the empty magazine, load a fresh one, and eject the last case. I am sure they have done time and motion studies to know that is the fast approach.

I'm not an expert on the subject, but perhaps that gives them a few moments to catch their breath and lower their hate rate before firing.

They are going from a lot of physically stressing movement to something mostly still and nearly meditative. A ritual that marks the transition may help make the transition more effective. I'm sure there is also a calculation that taking precious seconds unloading and reloading just after you've had a bit of a rest is a waste if that time can be allotted toward something useful, rest and transition.

armoredman · February 16, 2018, 04:20 AM

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...and lower their hate rate before firing.

That's a VERY funny typo...

Fishbed77 · February 16, 2018, 08:39 AM

Hahah. Fixed it.

February 11, 2018, 09:08 PM	#1
Big Shrek Senior Member Join Date: August 6, 2009 Location: NorthWest Florida Posts: 1,358	Olympic Biathelon What are they shooting this year? They look pretty cool __________________ Marlin Specialist Calico Specialist A gun should be a tool in the hands of a deadly weapon, not a deadly weapon in the hands of a tool.

February 12, 2018, 11:36 AM	#2
TrueBlue711 Senior Member Join Date: March 16, 2011 Posts: 489	I'm not sure who makes the ones that they're shooting, but Anshutz makes similar rifles (https://www.anschutznorthamerica.com/match-rifles.html). Very expensive rifles designed for each individual shooter. Big thing I noticed about the olympic rifles is the bolt. It's not a typical lift and pull style. They just pull it back just using their thumb and not lose sight picture. Also, they're bolt action, so this thread should probably belong in that thread category. EDIT: Here's another thread recently posted about the same thing: https://thefiringline.com/forums/sho...94#post6573894 Looks like Fortner modifies guns like Anshutz for Biathelon purposes. Last edited by TrueBlue711; February 12, 2018 at 12:41 PM.

February 12, 2018, 11:40 AM	#3
doofus47 Senior Member Join Date: June 9, 2010 Location: live in a in a house when i'm not in a tent Posts: 2,483	Anschutz for the most part. I think I've seen one Izmash. Straight pull bolts for all the cool kids. Mine is ghetto: a turn bolt Savage--b/c I don't shoot well enough or ski well enough to deserve the more expensive rifle. Definitely a fun sport to watch. __________________ I'm right about the metric system 3/4 of the time.

February 12, 2018, 09:22 PM	#4
jrothWA Senior Member Join Date: November 11, 2006 Posts: 2,519	Fortner pull-push action , some may have thr,,, "lever-action Anshutch, which the wrist of stock, cycles the actio, For me I'll stick with my Marlin 2000, having used it with the Washington Bilathlon Association.

February 13, 2018, 02:06 PM	#5
T. O'Heir Senior Member Join Date: February 13, 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 12,453	"...Fortner pull-push action..." It's a .22 LR, straight pull, bolt action. The 'Fortner' part is just the bolt handle extension. Makes the rifles horrendously expensive even for Anschutz. And it's Biathlon. Originally shot with cf rifles until the Olympic Committee wussed it up in 1978. __________________ Spelling and grammar count!

February 13, 2018, 03:56 PM	#6
doofus47 Senior Member Join Date: June 9, 2010 Location: live in a in a house when i'm not in a tent Posts: 2,483	It's not lever action. There was a Suhl biathlon rifle that had a lever action based on a moving handgrip, but the Anschutz are straight pull. __________________ I'm right about the metric system 3/4 of the time.

February 13, 2018, 05:52 PM	#7
DaleA Senior Member Join Date: September 12, 2002 Location: Twin Cities, MN Posts: 5,312	Whenever we talk about Biathlon I like to refer folk to the following video. It was produced by Ruger and it has Annelies Cook of the US Biathlon team describing the sport. Annelies Cook is young, enthusiastic and just a great spokes person for shooting sports and even though she calls a magazine a clip, because she can out shoot me seven ways from Sunday, I just don't care. The video is on the Ruger site and youtube. https://ruger.com/videos.html?vid=131253202&cat=3782644 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGx03PheuUw but go to the Ruger site, they've got quite a few videos there and I'd like to encourage them to make more.

February 13, 2018, 06:54 PM	#8
tobnpr Senior Member Join Date: August 1, 2010 Location: Tampa Bay Posts: 4,556	Def bad-azz rifles. But why is this thread in the autoloader forum? __________________ Remington 700/Savage Rebarreling /Action Blueprinting 07 FFL /Mosin-Nagant Custom Shop/Bent Bolts Genuine Cerakote Applicator www.biggorillagunworks.com

February 13, 2018, 10:17 PM	#9
blackwidowp61 Senior Member Join Date: November 18, 2017 Location: laiceps erehwon Posts: 165	Somebody hasn't taken the time to move it yet. Paging Mr. Eatman... __________________ If God is watching us, the least we can do is be entertaining. I don't suffer from insanity, I enjoy every minute of it! If you need a real belly laugh, try this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFCrJleggrI

February 15, 2018, 02:28 PM	#10
hdwhit Senior Member Join Date: June 22, 2017 Posts: 1,011	Here's the link to Fortner's biathlon rifle site: http://www.fortner-biathlon.com/ The shooting part of the biathlon doesn't seem all that difficult; it's 50 meters firing prone for targets about 2 inches in diameter or standing for targets a little over 4 inches in diameter. What makes it tricky is having just skied cross-country for a mile or more at a world-class pace, you have to come to a stop, get the rifle shouldered and get your breathing under control enough to make those shots in a few seconds.

February 15, 2018, 02:59 PM	#11
Jim Watson Senior Member Join Date: October 25, 2001 Location: Alabama Posts: 18,535	Interesting, when they fire the last shot in a string, they sling up and ski away. When they get back to the firing line you can see them drop and stow the empty magazine, load a fresh one, and eject the last case. I am sure they have done time and motion studies to know that is the fast approach.

February 16, 2018, 08:39 AM	#15
Fishbed77 Senior Member Join Date: November 23, 2010 Posts: 4,862	Hahah. Fixed it.

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