Webley Mk IVs 38 s&w

lewwallace · July 9, 2016, 02:18 PM

Girls wanted their picture taken so I obliged 'em. Shooters all, have been the collection 25+ yrs now! Don't think I paid over $150.00 for any of them back then!

Tidewater_Kid · July 9, 2016, 05:52 PM

Very nice! I love mine.

lamarw · July 9, 2016, 07:27 PM

Very Nice Indeed. I reload .38 S&W for a couple of old S&W Lemon Squeezers and a Union of South Africa Pre-Victory. It would be a pleasure to load for a Mk IV's - if I only owned one.

Dufus · July 9, 2016, 08:57 PM

My Grandaddy bought one in England during WWI. It is in my safe now. I have owned it since 1977 when my Grand Mother passed on.

Loaded lots of cast bullets for it during that time, but I haven't shot it in maybe 15 years.

darkgael · July 10, 2016, 06:06 AM

A classic firearm. I use mine for targets at the range and it is a pleasure to shoot.
Pete

**Mike Irwin** · July 10, 2016, 08:46 PM

"My Grandaddy bought one in England during WWI. It is in my safe now. I have owned it since 1977 when my Grand Mother passed on."

You mean World War II?

Unless it was a commercial model, the Enfield/Webley .380-200 revolvers wasn't developed until the 1930s.

Dufus · July 10, 2016, 10:54 PM

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You mean World War II? Unless it was a commercial model, the Enfield/Webley .380-200 revolvers wasn't developed until the 1930s.

You are correct with the .380-200, but the Mark IV was adopted in 1899 according to what I read on the subject. Is this wrong??

My grand father was US Army in WWI, not WWII. He was close to 50 yr old when WWII involved the /USA. My Dad turned 18 yr old in 1947, joined the US Navy in 1948.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Webley_Revolver

darkgael · July 11, 2016, 05:08 AM

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the Mark IV was adopted in 1899

Yes, but it was not chambered for the .38 S&W; the first offerings of the .38 were in 1929.

**Mike Irwin** · July 11, 2016, 06:49 AM

"You are correct with the .380-200, but the Mark IV was adopted in 1899 according to what I read on the subject. Is this wrong??"

OK, you're talking a completely different Mk IV Webley revolver.

The one your Grandfather purchased was a Webley Mk IV in .455. This is a very different gun from the Enfield/Webley Mk IV in .380-200.

The Mk IV in .455 is sometimes called the Boer War Model because it was introduced around the start of the war and was used quite extensively in the conflict.

Even though it was significantly beefed up over previous Wekbley marks, the Mk IV still wasn't quite strong enough to stand up to a lot of shooting with smokeless ammunition, which led to the adoption of the Mk V in 1913 (the last of the Webley "birdshead" grip revolvers) and the Mk VI in 1916.

Word of warning...

NEVER EVER shoot your Webley with .45 ACP ammo, even if it has been converted to take that round by altering the cylinder. .45 ACP ammo generates significantly higher pressures, and while the Webleys look more than strong enough to take it, they're simply not.

July 10, 2016, 06:06 AM	#5
darkgael Senior Member Join Date: February 9, 2006 Location: Homes in Brooklyn, NY and in Pennsylvania. Posts: 5,473	webley A classic firearm. I use mine for targets at the range and it is a pleasure to shoot. Pete __________________ “Auto racing, bull fighting, and mountain climbing are the only real sports ... all others are games.” Ernest Hemingway ... NRA Life Member

July 10, 2016, 08:46 PM	#6
Mike Irwin Staff Join Date: April 13, 2000 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 41,383	"My Grandaddy bought one in England during WWI. It is in my safe now. I have owned it since 1977 when my Grand Mother passed on." You mean World War II? Unless it was a commercial model, the Enfield/Webley .380-200 revolvers wasn't developed until the 1930s. __________________ "The gift which I am sending you is called a dog, and is in fact the most precious and valuable possession of mankind" -Theodorus Gaza Baby Jesus cries when the fat redneck doesn't have military-grade firepower.

July 11, 2016, 06:49 AM	#9
Mike Irwin Staff Join Date: April 13, 2000 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 41,383	"You are correct with the .380-200, but the Mark IV was adopted in 1899 according to what I read on the subject. Is this wrong??" OK, you're talking a completely different Mk IV Webley revolver. The one your Grandfather purchased was a Webley Mk IV in .455. This is a very different gun from the Enfield/Webley Mk IV in .380-200. The Mk IV in .455 is sometimes called the Boer War Model because it was introduced around the start of the war and was used quite extensively in the conflict. Even though it was significantly beefed up over previous Wekbley marks, the Mk IV still wasn't quite strong enough to stand up to a lot of shooting with smokeless ammunition, which led to the adoption of the Mk V in 1913 (the last of the Webley "birdshead" grip revolvers) and the Mk VI in 1916. Word of warning... NEVER EVER shoot your Webley with .45 ACP ammo, even if it has been converted to take that round by altering the cylinder. .45 ACP ammo generates significantly higher pressures, and while the Webleys look more than strong enough to take it, they're simply not. __________________ "The gift which I am sending you is called a dog, and is in fact the most precious and valuable possession of mankind" -Theodorus Gaza Baby Jesus cries when the fat redneck doesn't have military-grade firepower.

July 9, 2016, 05:52 PM	#2
Tidewater_Kid Senior Member Join Date: July 3, 2005 Location: Alabama Posts: 925	Very nice! I love mine.

July 9, 2016, 07:27 PM	#3
lamarw Senior Member Join Date: April 12, 2010 Location: Lake Martin, AL Posts: 3,311	Very Nice Indeed. I reload .38 S&W for a couple of old S&W Lemon Squeezers and a Union of South Africa Pre-Victory. It would be a pleasure to load for a Mk IV's - if I only owned one.

July 9, 2016, 08:57 PM	#4
Dufus Senior Member Join Date: December 10, 2014 Posts: 1,965	My Grandaddy bought one in England during WWI. It is in my safe now. I have owned it since 1977 when my Grand Mother passed on. Loaded lots of cast bullets for it during that time, but I haven't shot it in maybe 15 years.