February 27, 2018, 09:29 PM | #1 |
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New hand guns owner!
Hey mate,
Have a nice day to all. I need your help for one of my issue. Though I asked somewhere for my issue but didn't get reply. I need to keep my gun in safe and secure mode. So looking for a locker where I can keep all of my hand guns. What do you usually do keep you all guns in black market or simply buy a locker for them? Will wait for your further reply. lol |
March 1, 2018, 05:33 PM | #2 |
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Ummm... I think you're asking how to securely store handguns. I am going to ask a few follow-up questions that will help all of us to provide some better advice!
- How many handguns? - Do you plan to have any shotguns or rifles in the future? - Do you need the gun to be accessed quickly for home defense? |
March 1, 2018, 07:15 PM | #3 |
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Are you trying to keep them away from children in your home?
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March 1, 2018, 09:12 PM | #4 |
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Thanks for your reply mate. Let me explain about my all guns. Yes, I have 2 shotguns and a rifle at my house. I'm worry because i have 2 kids they are about 4-8 years and very fastidious. They keep me busy all the time and try to touch my personal things. So right now I'm thinking to buy a locker until they understand about their safety. Although I read some blogs about best gun safe. So for their safety, right now a locker would suit me best and keep my all guns and rifle save and secure.
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March 1, 2018, 11:00 PM | #5 |
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Plenty of metal lockers available that might suit your needs at sporting goods stores, hardware stores, industrial supplies, even WalMart.
BTW, I confess I'm not familiar with "black market" gun storage. Could you enlighten me on the meaning of that term? Thx.
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March 2, 2018, 08:50 AM | #6 |
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Yeah, I will try for that you suggested. Thanks!
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March 2, 2018, 10:12 AM | #7 |
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I first started with a cheap gun locker , then went with a gun safe that I built into the wall , brand name is Stack On . I have 6 handguns 2 rifles with plenty room . 4'high 2'wide 2' deep. My children are grown an have their own ,they have guns that are also locked in a safe. Now that it's my wife an I , one handgun is out until someone comes to visit. I guessing "black market" is a brand name.
Hope I helped in some way. Chris |
March 2, 2018, 03:03 PM | #8 |
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Doesn't California have a list of approved storage containers, and don't firearms have to be stored in an approved container if there are children in the house?
I'm asking, not stating -- I am not a California resident. But I would not rush out to buy a "locker," because I don't think it will satisfy the legal minimum requirement. https://oag.ca.gov/firearms/gunsafe https://oag.ca.gov/firearms/tips |
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A gun safe that has room for a few more than you own now would be the best solution. A metal locker, if legal where you are, might get you by for securing your firearms from children, as long as you secure the key adequately. With the same caveats, one or more locking cases would perform the function as well.
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The OP is in California, and he has young children in the house. He must store his firearms in accordance with California Penal Code, § § 25100 et. seq.
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https://oag.ca.gov/firearms/gunsafe [EDIT TO ADD: A different statute DOES require either an "approved" gun safe/container, or trigger lock type device. See post #14, below.] Quote:
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March 3, 2018, 03:22 PM | #11 |
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Yep, AB, if that last part of your post doesn't describe a safe, it is a darn sturdy box! Locked cases and such are not going to fulfill that criteria, and neither, ironically, are the kind of gun locks that gun control advocates pushed as mandatory accessories.
If I read it correctly, though, 25100 does not designate it a crime until a child accesses the firearm and does some mischief. It might then be than a lockup that does not meet specs but is still practically effective still keeps one out of legal jeopardy. Meeting the specs keeps you out of trouble in the event that a kid overcomes the security. I'm not a California resident, and definitely not a legal professional, though, so maybe I am reading it wrong. |
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March 4, 2018, 01:24 PM | #13 |
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"...looking for a locker..." There are hordes of 'em. Which one depends on how much space you have and your budget. You might find a surplus school locker in a used office furniture shop that is big enough for the long guns and has a shelf for the hand guns. Otherwise any firearm storage container will do. Some will fit nicely in a closet.
"...The law does not appear to require a safe..." Usually no legal definition of what is considered to be a 'safe' either. Cal. DOJ's criteria describes a regular "gun safe" like those made by Stack-on and sold by Cabela's, etc.
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This discussion on the CalGuns forum may offer further insight: http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...d.php?t=119219
The CalGuns discussion cites the California statute that requires an "approved" safety device. This means that the OP CANNOT just go to an office surplus place and buy a locker. Any device must be on the state's list of approved devices. Quote:
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At home, I want the storage container to resist break-in long enough to give the police time to respond to the burglar alarm, so years ago I bought a safe from Sears that was one step down from Sears Best. So far, it has done exactly what I bought it to do. |
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I had a stack on 10 gun safe for 4 years and it was a pretty good combination safe for about 5 long guns and some pistols. Then I upgraded to a Stack On 36 gun safe available at Sams club for $600. Has an electronic lock, waterproof and has some sort of fire resistance. It might not fit your situation but it's heavy and wont walk away. If I had to I would buy a 10 gun again but I would bolt it down everywhere I could because at 300 pounds it could still be dragged across the floor. Even faster with a dolly.
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