Why do you cast, or why dont you cast? - Page 2

GP100man · May 7, 2010, 11:25 AM

Ya know what ?? I think I shoot so I can cast & reload , no I cast so shootin will be cheaper ,NO I cast so I can get styles of bullets I want !!!

The heck with it MY NAME IS GP100man & I`M ADDICTED TO ANYTHING DEALIN WITH FIREARMS !!!

TOO MUCH TIME !!! Just cut the TV off for a week & we`ll see

I watch the news ,Supranos & lock & load thursdays , couple of movies with the girls a month , That`s it !

Lavid2002 · May 7, 2010, 12:58 PM

I started the process. I collected a bunch of WW's and have smelted a little over 100 lb in muffin ingots : D

Its pretty fun too...Feels like im getting paid to do it :P

GP100man · May 7, 2010, 04:26 PM

At todays prices & shippin

You are

salvadore · May 7, 2010, 08:29 PM

coupla months ago I shot ten 32/20s from my marlin 94cl into a little over 2" at 100yds with my cast lyman gascheck @ 1600, 1700 fps, with 8 of them in 1.25". Ya can't get that kinda satisfaction from a $40 box of factory.

Lavid2002 · May 7, 2010, 11:44 PM

^ Wow...I can see where your coming from : )

WESHOOT2 · May 8, 2010, 02:30 PM

I can buy superb yet affordable lead bullets from Penn Bullets and Meister.
For certain applications I can buy Beartooth, and Cast Performance, Oregon Trail, or Leadheads, or Lyman, or a million others.

I can buy them easier than make them.

**Bud Helms** · May 8, 2010, 05:23 PM

Hear, hear! I buy .376 for my .38-55 Wickliffe from GA Arms. Very accurate and very affordable.

Lavid2002 · May 8, 2010, 06:55 PM

A possibility down the road for sure : D

Del · May 8, 2010, 07:15 PM

Gentilemen,
I am going to give reloading a try along with casting, but I always thought bare lead was not a good idea for the 11s.

Thanks very much Del

Edward429451 · May 8, 2010, 07:35 PM

Lead bullets do good in all 1911's except those with Glock barrels installed

snuffy · May 8, 2010, 07:44 PM

Quote:

I didn't; I don't; I don't plan to
I can buy superb yet affordable lead bullets from Penn Bullets and Meister.
For certain applications I can buy Beartooth, and Cast Performance, Oregon Trail, or Leadheads, or Lyman, or a million others.

I can buy them easier than make them.

But can you order them custom alloyed, sized other than the standard for caliber, AND with a lube of your choice?? Of course not. You wanna play ya have to pay, or in this case you want to load custom lead bullets, you have to make them yourself. Time consuming? Yes. I can have bullets ready to load in as little as 3 hours, up to 200 that is. Some may take a little longer, especially if they're gas checked, takes a bit longer to apply the gas check.

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Gentilemen,
I am going to give reloading a try along with casting, but I always thought bare lead was not a good idea for the 11s.

Thanks very much Del

Who told you that? They're not bare, they're lubed with various type of grease. 45 acp bullets don't have to be very hard either. It's a low pressure cartridge, so it doesn't tend to have too much trouble with leading.

armoredman · May 8, 2010, 10:10 PM

I have a casting setup I use sometimes. Cast today, first time in over a year, ran out of bullets! Also casting a new 160grain .311 sized gas checked boolit to use in my CZ 527 7.62x39mm. Excited to get those started, and see how it does, since in this 1.5 horse town everything has to be ordered in. I got lead from some buddies, so I do NOT smelt, but I won't run out of lead any time soon.

I like it, and it is cheap and easy. I also agree, it MUST be treated with respect, I wear heavy leather gloves, kevlar arm guards, goggles, apron, etc.

IllinoisCoyoteHunter · May 8, 2010, 10:15 PM

I cast because 460 SW mags and 454 Casull rounds are expensive and I like to shoot more than 20 rounds through my guns per year.

These boolits courtesy of a Night Owl Enterprises mold. These babies are 220 grn gas checked HP's.

Lavid2002 · May 8, 2010, 10:44 PM

Nice boolits ICH : D

Edit: ICH...you got me wondering how you got your brass so SHINY! Tumble after loading perhaps? Then I got to wondering....Can I tumble lead heads after they're loaded? Or will I contaminate my media with lead or something....Maybe it will mess up the boolit?

I dont know....

-Dave

IllinoisCoyoteHunter · May 8, 2010, 11:11 PM

That is brand new unfired brass. The 454 brass is trimmed down 460 brass. I don't tumble live rounds, but don't see a problem with it...as long as you don't do it for a long time.

Lavid2002 · May 8, 2010, 11:14 PM

I tumble live rounds all the time...im not worried about it. Just wondered if tumbling live lead heads would make a difference. Obviously if I had something funky like a .308 boolit load with some of the lube grooves exposed I would have a problem. But I dont see one with regular loads with boolits. Is there one?

Ed_ · May 9, 2010, 05:52 AM

Quote:

Ya know what ?? I think I shoot so I can cast & reload , no I cast so shootin will be cheaper ,NO I cast so I can get styles of bullets I want !!!

The heck with it MY NAME IS GP100man & I`M ADDICTED TO ANYTHING DEALIN WITH FIREARMS !!!

TOO MUCH TIME !!! Just cut the TV off for a week & we`ll see

I watch the news ,Supranos & lock & load thursdays , couple of movies with the girls a month , That`s it !

What GP100man said to the tee except:
I watch news, the golf channel, & Wednesday night at the range. Thats scary you must be my long lost brother. OMG I even have a GP100...

IllinoisCoyoteHunter · May 9, 2010, 07:58 AM

TV?? What's that?

Ed_ · May 9, 2010, 06:51 PM

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Lavid2002 · May 9, 2010, 07:47 PM

I thin you are missing a b somewhere....

m&p45acp10+1 · May 10, 2010, 04:55 PM

Let's see here. I started casting a couple of months ago. I started because:
1 I do not make a lot of money. Most of that goes to rent, bills, truck payment, and food. Not to mention that I have a girlfriend that likes to shoot as much as I do. What is left is not much.
2 I like to shoot a lot. (Due to what is writen in #1 affording to do otherwise just would not be possible.) I picked up brass at the range for a year, a 1 quart freezer bag or so at a time. I was given a tumbler, I sorted, tumbled, bagged, and labled the brass. I traded that for a Lee Breech lock Challenger kit. I started reloading. I had a lot of ammo, yet having to buy bullets was difficult.
3 I have a former roomie that works at a tire shop. I did not buy any molds at first. When he saved me 3 buckets full. I used 2 old iron skillets. 1 10 inch to melt with. one 8 inch for a mold. I did a detail job on a car and made enough spare cash to buy 2 molds. \
4 I can not shoot a lot, spend very little, and have some cash left to take my girfriend out to dinner.

sc928porsche · May 14, 2010, 10:57 AM

I cast because its fun!!!!!!!

res45 · May 14, 2010, 05:54 PM

I know several people that shoot cast bullets in poly bores,proper bullet size and lubed they work fine. http://www.buffalobore.com/index.php...duct_list&c=59

Rangefinder · May 15, 2010, 11:29 AM

As I've already stated---it's fun, and it's cost effective. I now have several loads worked up for my AK that put the price of shooting it back down where it use to be before the cost of ammo went insane---around 8 cents a pop. That's roughly what the powder, gas checks, and primers break down to---the lead I get for free. Plus--do you know how satisfying it is to be one step closer to NOT having to rely on available components? I have seven different firearms now that I will never have to buy another bullet for unless I WANT to. I like that.

salvadore · May 15, 2010, 04:37 PM

"I didn't; I don't; I don't plan to

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I can buy superb yet affordable lead bullets from Penn Bullets and Meister.
For certain applications I can buy Beartooth, and Cast Performance, Oregon Trail, or Leadheads, or Lyman, or a million others.

I can buy them easier than make them."

That's very true, and you can buy complete cartridges easier than you can make them too.

May 7, 2010, 11:25 AM	#26
GP100man Senior Member Join Date: August 1, 2007 Location: Tabor City , NC. Posts: 1,969	Ya know what ?? I think I shoot so I can cast & reload , no I cast so shootin will be cheaper ,NO I cast so I can get styles of bullets I want !!! The heck with it MY NAME IS GP100man & I`M ADDICTED TO ANYTHING DEALIN WITH FIREARMS !!! TOO MUCH TIME !!! Just cut the TV off for a week & we`ll see I watch the news ,Supranos & lock & load thursdays , couple of movies with the girls a month , That`s it ! __________________ GP100man

May 7, 2010, 12:58 PM	#27
Lavid2002 Senior Member Join Date: April 6, 2007 Posts: 2,568	I started the process. I collected a bunch of WW's and have smelted a little over 100 lb in muffin ingots : D Its pretty fun too...Feels like im getting paid to do it :P __________________ Math>Grammar

May 7, 2010, 04:26 PM	#28
GP100man Senior Member Join Date: August 1, 2007 Location: Tabor City , NC. Posts: 1,969	At todays prices & shippin You are __________________ GP100man

May 7, 2010, 11:44 PM	#30
Lavid2002 Senior Member Join Date: April 6, 2007 Posts: 2,568	^ Wow...I can see where your coming from : ) __________________ Math>Grammar

May 8, 2010, 02:30 PM	#31
WESHOOT2 Senior Member Join Date: February 20, 1999 Location: home on the range; Vermont (Caspian country) Posts: 14,324	I didn't; I don't; I don't plan to I can buy superb yet affordable lead bullets from Penn Bullets and Meister. For certain applications I can buy Beartooth, and Cast Performance, Oregon Trail, or Leadheads, or Lyman, or a million others. I can buy them easier than make them. __________________ . "all my ammo is mostly retired factory ammo"

May 7, 2010, 08:29 PM	#29
salvadore Junior member Join Date: January 1, 2007 Location: Idaho Posts: 2,282	coupla months ago I shot ten 32/20s from my marlin 94cl into a little over 2" at 100yds with my cast lyman gascheck @ 1600, 1700 fps, with 8 of them in 1.25". Ya can't get that kinda satisfaction from a $40 box of factory.

May 8, 2010, 05:23 PM	#32
Bud Helms Senior Member Join Date: December 31, 1999 Location: Middle Georgia, USA Posts: 13,198	Hear, hear! I buy .376 for my .38-55 Wickliffe from GA Arms. Very accurate and very affordable.

May 8, 2010, 06:55 PM	#33
Lavid2002 Senior Member Join Date: April 6, 2007 Posts: 2,568	A possibility down the road for sure : D __________________ Math>Grammar

May 8, 2010, 07:15 PM	#34
Del Member Join Date: September 5, 2007 Posts: 25	Lead bullits in 1911 Gentilemen, I am going to give reloading a try along with casting, but I always thought bare lead was not a good idea for the 11s. Thanks very much Del

May 8, 2010, 07:35 PM	#35
Edward429451 Junior member Join Date: November 12, 2000 Location: Colorado Springs, Colorado Posts: 9,494	Lead bullets do good in all 1911's except those with Glock barrels installed

May 8, 2010, 10:10 PM	#37
armoredman Senior Member Join Date: May 22, 2007 Location: Arizona Posts: 5,299	I have a casting setup I use sometimes. Cast today, first time in over a year, ran out of bullets! Also casting a new 160grain .311 sized gas checked boolit to use in my CZ 527 7.62x39mm. Excited to get those started, and see how it does, since in this 1.5 horse town everything has to be ordered in. I got lead from some buddies, so I do NOT smelt, but I won't run out of lead any time soon. I like it, and it is cheap and easy. I also agree, it MUST be treated with respect, I wear heavy leather gloves, kevlar arm guards, goggles, apron, etc.

May 8, 2010, 10:15 PM	#38
IllinoisCoyoteHunter Senior Member Join Date: December 23, 2008 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 1,527	Why do I cast??? Well... I cast because 460 SW mags and 454 Casull rounds are expensive and I like to shoot more than 20 rounds through my guns per year. These boolits courtesy of a Night Owl Enterprises mold. These babies are 220 grn gas checked HP's. __________________ ~~IllinoisCoyoteHunter~~ ~NRA LIFE MEMBER~ ~NRA CERTIFIED INSTRUCTOR~

May 8, 2010, 10:44 PM	#39
Lavid2002 Senior Member Join Date: April 6, 2007 Posts: 2,568	Wow... Nice boolits ICH : D Edit: ICH...you got me wondering how you got your brass so SHINY! Tumble after loading perhaps? Then I got to wondering....Can I tumble lead heads after they're loaded? Or will I contaminate my media with lead or something....Maybe it will mess up the boolit? I dont know.... -Dave __________________ Math>Grammar Last edited by Lavid2002; May 8, 2010 at 10:49 PM.

May 8, 2010, 11:11 PM	#40
IllinoisCoyoteHunter Senior Member Join Date: December 23, 2008 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 1,527	That is brand new unfired brass. The 454 brass is trimmed down 460 brass. I don't tumble live rounds, but don't see a problem with it...as long as you don't do it for a long time. __________________ ~~IllinoisCoyoteHunter~~ ~NRA LIFE MEMBER~ ~NRA CERTIFIED INSTRUCTOR~

May 8, 2010, 11:14 PM	#41
Lavid2002 Senior Member Join Date: April 6, 2007 Posts: 2,568	I tumble live rounds all the time...im not worried about it. Just wondered if tumbling live lead heads would make a difference. Obviously if I had something funky like a .308 boolit load with some of the lube grooves exposed I would have a problem. But I dont see one with regular loads with boolits. Is there one? __________________ Math>Grammar

May 9, 2010, 07:58 AM	#43
IllinoisCoyoteHunter Senior Member Join Date: December 23, 2008 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 1,527	TV?? What's that? __________________ ~~IllinoisCoyoteHunter~~ ~NRA LIFE MEMBER~ ~NRA CERTIFIED INSTRUCTOR~

May 9, 2010, 06:51 PM	#44
Ed_ Member Join Date: January 27, 2009 Location: Southwest Missouri Posts: 96	Deleted Last edited by Ed_; May 10, 2010 at 05:32 PM.

May 9, 2010, 07:47 PM	#45
Lavid2002 Senior Member Join Date: April 6, 2007 Posts: 2,568	I thin you are missing a b somewhere.... __________________ Math>Grammar

May 10, 2010, 04:55 PM	#46
m&p45acp10+1 Senior Member Join Date: May 3, 2009 Location: Central Texas Posts: 3,930	Let's see here. I started casting a couple of months ago. I started because: 1 I do not make a lot of money. Most of that goes to rent, bills, truck payment, and food. Not to mention that I have a girlfriend that likes to shoot as much as I do. What is left is not much. 2 I like to shoot a lot. (Due to what is writen in #1 affording to do otherwise just would not be possible.) I picked up brass at the range for a year, a 1 quart freezer bag or so at a time. I was given a tumbler, I sorted, tumbled, bagged, and labled the brass. I traded that for a Lee Breech lock Challenger kit. I started reloading. I had a lot of ammo, yet having to buy bullets was difficult. 3 I have a former roomie that works at a tire shop. I did not buy any molds at first. When he saved me 3 buckets full. I used 2 old iron skillets. 1 10 inch to melt with. one 8 inch for a mold. I did a detail job on a car and made enough spare cash to buy 2 molds. \ 4 I can not shoot a lot, spend very little, and have some cash left to take my girfriend out to dinner. __________________ No matter how many times you do it and nothing happens it only takes something going wrong one time to kill you.

May 14, 2010, 10:57 AM	#47
sc928porsche Senior Member Join Date: May 29, 2008 Location: now living in alabama Posts: 2,433	I cast because its fun!!!!!!! __________________ No such thing as a stupid question. What is stupid is not asking it.

May 14, 2010, 05:54 PM	#48
res45 Senior Member Join Date: September 15, 2007 Location: NC Posts: 753	I know several people that shoot cast bullets in poly bores,proper bullet size and lubed they work fine. http://www.buffalobore.com/index.php...duct_list&c=59 __________________ The Reloaders Network discord Channel https://discord.gg/Nafuzht

May 15, 2010, 11:29 AM	#49
Rangefinder Senior Member Join Date: August 4, 2005 Posts: 2,017	As I've already stated---it's fun, and it's cost effective. I now have several loads worked up for my AK that put the price of shooting it back down where it use to be before the cost of ammo went insane---around 8 cents a pop. That's roughly what the powder, gas checks, and primers break down to---the lead I get for free. Plus--do you know how satisfying it is to be one step closer to NOT having to rely on available components? I have seven different firearms now that I will never have to buy another bullet for unless I WANT to. I like that. __________________ "Why is is called Common Sense when it seems so few actually possess it?" Guns only have two enemies: Rust and Politicians.

May 15, 2010, 04:37 PM	#50
salvadore Junior member Join Date: January 1, 2007 Location: Idaho Posts: 2,282	"I didn't; I don't; I don't plan to -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I can buy superb yet affordable lead bullets from Penn Bullets and Meister. For certain applications I can buy Beartooth, and Cast Performance, Oregon Trail, or Leadheads, or Lyman, or a million others. I can buy them easier than make them." That's very true, and you can buy complete cartridges easier than you can make them too.