home made umm fire works ?

boatmonkey82 · January 20, 2009, 01:41 AM

i have heard mixed toughts about this and i will admit that in my younger and dumber days as have many made our own home brew explosives . now i am quite sure that it is not lawfull but just for entertainment and non transport of such items what are the rules for this . our biggest one was heard over 20miles away at 230 am . i know you must have a class 3 to obtain dynamite and blasting caps here in nc . and i have also heard that potato guns are considered pipe bombs . i think i know the answers for these but just want to know the real facts and consequences of said black pipe and smokeless powder ? or feel free to slap me for posting this lol

RedneckFur · January 20, 2009, 02:11 AM

Your best bet is not to even mention that you've played with such devices. Chances are, its illegal. If I were you, I'd stop right now, If you havent stopped already. Playing with explosives could potenially cost you many years in prison

boatmonkey82 · January 20, 2009, 02:15 AM

well how do the do pro fire work guys get by making similar devices . and i have long stop doing that stuff

Williespeed · January 20, 2009, 02:53 AM

go here some you can get some you need a license for.
http://www.highqualitychems.com/servlet/StoreFront

boatmonkey82 · January 20, 2009, 07:56 AM

nice website , i may have to try some of the stuff that does not need a permit . maybe some thermite in the mix ? dad owns some towing companies and can think of a few cars to destroy

jfrey123 · January 20, 2009, 10:20 AM

Thermite is bad juju amigo... The one you're going to want is TANNERITE... Search youtube for it and watch people blow up camper trailers, Geo Metros, etc.

Stuff is legal to possess and transport because it's not flammable and isn't considered a "true" explosive. However, a guy is in Federal Court for shooting a DUMP TRUCK full of it and setting off seismic sensors at a nuclear power facility.

LucifersPants · January 20, 2009, 10:23 AM

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Stuff is legal to possess and transport because it's not flammable and isn't considered a "true" explosive. However, a guy is in Federal Court for shooting a DUMP TRUCK full of it and setting off seismic sensors at a nuclear power facility.

LMFAO...never underestimate the awesome power of stupidity.

garryc · January 20, 2009, 11:24 AM

At one time you could buy thermite, I don't know if you still can. It came in two cans with aluminum powder in one and iron oxide in another. I believe it also came with a pack of magnisium strips. It was used for welding railroad track. A ceramic shoe was placed over the joint and the powder was placed in. When it burned at around 5000 degrees it would fuse the track together.

I did a job once in which we band sawed a bunch of aluminum castings. I collected the chips and then scraped off a bunch of iron oxide from rusty steel. I knocked the bottom out of a ceramic coffe cup and put it on a piece of 1/2" plate steel. Filling it up with the 50/50 mixture I lit ot off. That stuff went through that steel in short order!

I learned to make several incinerary devices and explosives back in my militia days. Of course that was a long time ago and the statute of limitations has passed several times.

By the way, my father has a pamplet put out by the department of AG, I think it's dated around 1954. It details how to make a diesel fuel fertilizer bomb. It shows how to set them to blow a stock pond. Now that would be a very big boom.

Williespeed · January 20, 2009, 03:27 PM

http://www.americanpyrosupply.com/
http://www.skylighter.com/
http://www.pyropage.com/GettingLegal/GettingLegal.html
http://www.pyroinnovations.com/blog1/

herer are a few more good links to information on pyrotechnics, Skylighter has some good information on what they will and will not ship and why. found here javascript:showMsg(1); not sure if this link will work but if you look around there site they will have a new regulations link that will spell it out after some of the more volitale chemicals. use caution and enjoy.

blume357 · January 21, 2009, 07:01 AM

at least I think it was that book or maybe the Anarcist cookbook not sure....

ether way, personally it's like making bread... a heck of a lot easier to go out and buy it. At least in S.C.

boatmonkey82 · January 21, 2009, 05:46 PM

yea but the cook book you almost need a phd to understand some of the stuff that is really worth making . we have a old boat with a 4.3 chevy in it and we pulled the head , place some smokeless in , converted the spark plug to hold a fuse and place the head back on . lmfao . it was no louder than a 22 but it busted the piston and the cyl walls . kind cool but soo not worth the effort. as far as the fuel and fertilizer goes i have been waaay to scared to make the stuff and have heard that you need any thing from blasting caps to dynamyte to set it off . class 3 any one ? i know a few old well that i would love to drop a 5 gallon bucket of that stuff down about 75 ft

Al Norris · January 21, 2009, 06:24 PM

Are we discussing the legality of making your own fireworks and/or bombs, or are we discussing how fun it is (to play with such stuff)?

One or the other, folks. Care to guess which one I get to close?

I'll be checking this thread in the morning....

boatmonkey82 · January 22, 2009, 10:21 AM

i kinda think a improperly made firework would be more devestating than a small pipe bomb but then again when the kids who go on a shooting spree dont take homemade bottle rockets with them . i dont see the harm of it as far as laws go but it would be impossible to goveren say mr smith and his friends just having some fun and being responsible vs the local gothic kid with trenchcoat . i guess its like legalizing crack or pot , oh well

January 20, 2009, 01:41 AM	#1
boatmonkey82 Junior member Join Date: December 31, 2008 Location: youngsville nc Posts: 195	home made umm fire works ? i have heard mixed toughts about this and i will admit that in my younger and dumber days as have many made our own home brew explosives . now i am quite sure that it is not lawfull but just for entertainment and non transport of such items what are the rules for this . our biggest one was heard over 20miles away at 230 am . i know you must have a class 3 to obtain dynamite and blasting caps here in nc . and i have also heard that potato guns are considered pipe bombs . i think i know the answers for these but just want to know the real facts and consequences of said black pipe and smokeless powder ? or feel free to slap me for posting this lol

January 20, 2009, 02:11 AM	#2
RedneckFur Senior Member Join Date: January 14, 2007 Location: Central NC Posts: 1,424	Your best bet is not to even mention that you've played with such devices. Chances are, its illegal. If I were you, I'd stop right now, If you havent stopped already. Playing with explosives could potenially cost you many years in prison __________________ In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act. -George Orwell

January 20, 2009, 10:20 AM	#6
jfrey123 Senior Member Join Date: July 7, 2006 Location: Reno, NV. Posts: 1,026	Thermite is bad juju amigo... The one you're going to want is TANNERITE... Search youtube for it and watch people blow up camper trailers, Geo Metros, etc. Stuff is legal to possess and transport because it's not flammable and isn't considered a "true" explosive. However, a guy is in Federal Court for shooting a DUMP TRUCK full of it and setting off seismic sensors at a nuclear power facility. __________________ Rock out with your Glock out!

January 21, 2009, 07:01 AM	#10
blume357 Senior Member Join Date: August 2, 2005 Location: Greenville, SC Posts: 3,943	Poor Man's James Bond has a good section on making fireworks at least I think it was that book or maybe the Anarcist cookbook not sure.... ether way, personally it's like making bread... a heck of a lot easier to go out and buy it. At least in S.C.

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January 20, 2009, 02:15 AM	#3
boatmonkey82 Junior member Join Date: December 31, 2008 Location: youngsville nc Posts: 195	well how do the do pro fire work guys get by making similar devices . and i have long stop doing that stuff

January 20, 2009, 02:53 AM	#4
Williespeed Junior Member Join Date: December 29, 2008 Posts: 6	go here some you can get some you need a license for. http://www.highqualitychems.com/servlet/StoreFront

January 20, 2009, 07:56 AM	#5
boatmonkey82 Junior member Join Date: December 31, 2008 Location: youngsville nc Posts: 195	nice website , i may have to try some of the stuff that does not need a permit . maybe some thermite in the mix ? dad owns some towing companies and can think of a few cars to destroy

January 20, 2009, 11:24 AM	#8
garryc Senior Member Join Date: November 12, 2005 Posts: 2,536	At one time you could buy thermite, I don't know if you still can. It came in two cans with aluminum powder in one and iron oxide in another. I believe it also came with a pack of magnisium strips. It was used for welding railroad track. A ceramic shoe was placed over the joint and the powder was placed in. When it burned at around 5000 degrees it would fuse the track together. I did a job once in which we band sawed a bunch of aluminum castings. I collected the chips and then scraped off a bunch of iron oxide from rusty steel. I knocked the bottom out of a ceramic coffe cup and put it on a piece of 1/2" plate steel. Filling it up with the 50/50 mixture I lit ot off. That stuff went through that steel in short order! I learned to make several incinerary devices and explosives back in my militia days. Of course that was a long time ago and the statute of limitations has passed several times. By the way, my father has a pamplet put out by the department of AG, I think it's dated around 1954. It details how to make a diesel fuel fertilizer bomb. It shows how to set them to blow a stock pond. Now that would be a very big boom.

January 20, 2009, 03:27 PM	#9
Williespeed Junior Member Join Date: December 29, 2008 Posts: 6	http://www.americanpyrosupply.com/ http://www.skylighter.com/ http://www.pyropage.com/GettingLegal/GettingLegal.html http://www.pyroinnovations.com/blog1/ herer are a few more good links to information on pyrotechnics, Skylighter has some good information on what they will and will not ship and why. found here javascript:showMsg(1); not sure if this link will work but if you look around there site they will have a new regulations link that will spell it out after some of the more volitale chemicals. use caution and enjoy.

January 21, 2009, 05:46 PM	#11
boatmonkey82 Junior member Join Date: December 31, 2008 Location: youngsville nc Posts: 195	yea but the cook book you almost need a phd to understand some of the stuff that is really worth making . we have a old boat with a 4.3 chevy in it and we pulled the head , place some smokeless in , converted the spark plug to hold a fuse and place the head back on . lmfao . it was no louder than a 22 but it busted the piston and the cyl walls . kind cool but soo not worth the effort. as far as the fuel and fertilizer goes i have been waaay to scared to make the stuff and have heard that you need any thing from blasting caps to dynamyte to set it off . class 3 any one ? i know a few old well that i would love to drop a 5 gallon bucket of that stuff down about 75 ft

January 21, 2009, 06:24 PM	#12
Al Norris Moderator Emeritus Join Date: June 29, 2000 Location: Rupert, Idaho Posts: 9,660	Are we discussing the legality of making your own fireworks and/or bombs, or are we discussing how fun it is (to play with such stuff)? One or the other, folks. Care to guess which one I get to close? I'll be checking this thread in the morning....

January 22, 2009, 10:21 AM	#13
boatmonkey82 Junior member Join Date: December 31, 2008 Location: youngsville nc Posts: 195	i kinda think a improperly made firework would be more devestating than a small pipe bomb but then again when the kids who go on a shooting spree dont take homemade bottle rockets with them . i dont see the harm of it as far as laws go but it would be impossible to goveren say mr smith and his friends just having some fun and being responsible vs the local gothic kid with trenchcoat . i guess its like legalizing crack or pot , oh well