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Old October 16, 2008, 08:41 PM   #76
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Gun #24

Nothing too fancy here. Just an old Marlin model 56 22 cal rifle. The only lever action gun out of them all. Could not locate any serial #. Possibly from the 50's?
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Old October 16, 2008, 10:57 PM   #77
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Is it because there was a large surplus after the war, and the guns could be had for a few bucks?
Yes.
The first big wave of WWII surplus guns was in the 1950s and early 1960s. European bolt actions could be had for $10 - $40. I paid $36 for a 1903 Springfield in those days. Before 1968 a Free American could mailorder a gun and have it sent to his doorstep. But the Kennedy killings were the rationale for banning mailorder and out of state sales of guns under the Gun Control Act of 1968. There was no opposition from US gun companies, they were just as glad to see competition from foreign makers and everybody's surplus slowed down.
Over recent years, the Curio and Relic provisions have loosened things up and there has been a second big wave of WW II surplus loosed on the market.

Your Marlin 56 is a child of the same law. Prior to GCA 1968, there was no requirement for a gun to even have a serial number and a lot of inexpensive guns didn't. The Model 56 didn't, the more expensive Model 39A did.
The production run of Model 56s was from 1955 - 1964.
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Old October 17, 2008, 08:14 AM   #78
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Gun #25

Thanks alot for the info Jim. Gun # 25 is an Investarms O/U 28g shotgun. Says Sile Inc-Ossian, IN on base of barrel. Having trouble finding any info on this brand.
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Old October 17, 2008, 09:25 AM   #79
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Investarm is an Italian gunmaker, startup in 1975 which makes it a real newcomer there... Beretta has been in business for 400 years.
http://www.investarm.com/eng/

Sile was the US importer for Investarm and other small Italian companies several years ago.

The 28 gauge is not real common, mostly shot at Skeet and by real dedicated upland bird hunters. But I googled mention of other Investarm 28s, they must have concentrated on the market.
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Old October 17, 2008, 12:33 PM   #80
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Gun #26

Thanks Jim.
Gun # 26 is an odd looking over under, with a 410 shotgun barrel on the bottom, and what looks like a .22 on the top. Says Savage model 24-se on the side.
My father saud he shot it when he was a kid, so it should be at least 50 years old.
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Old October 17, 2008, 01:00 PM   #81
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This is another case of what you see is what you get. Savage made the Model 24 "over and under" combination gun for a long time. A co-worker had one that was a WW II jungle survival gun from planes flying The Hump across Burma and North China. Most, like yours, were .22 + .410 but there were some in larger calibers and gauges.
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Old October 17, 2008, 01:32 PM   #82
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Gun #27

Thanks Jim.
Gun #27 Says St Etienne on the side, mle 1892. Barrel says MA s1893. Its very heavy for such a small gun (37.5 "). SN's are all different.
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Old October 17, 2008, 03:50 PM   #83
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That's a French 1892/27 Berthier Musketoon, should be chambered in 8mm Lebel. Appears to be in original condition, but hard to tell from the pic.
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Old October 17, 2008, 05:54 PM   #84
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Gun #28

Thanks Chipperman. Gun #28 is another Hakim rifle. The "action cover" and front sight are different than the first one I posted. Would this just mean different years of manufacture? The bayonette in third pic was in case with gun. Is this the correct bayonette?
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Old October 17, 2008, 08:14 PM   #85
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Well, kind-of, sort-of. Picture 28 is of a Ljungman AG42B, the Swedish precursor to the Hakim, and chambered for the 6.5x55mm Swedish cartridge. For all intents and purposes, the rifles work the same. Yes, that's the proper bayonet for the rifle.
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Old October 19, 2008, 10:51 AM   #86
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Thanks!

I want to thank everyone here who has helped to educate me in the history/origin of these guns. I decided not to post the remaining 10 or so guns, as most of them are either duplicate (and in some cases triplicates), or are more modern, easy to identify guns.

I want to give a special thanks to Jim Watson for his in numerous, in depth responses, and I officially take back anything negative I have ever said about Alabama
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Old October 19, 2008, 02:32 PM   #87
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Man,
Did I ever enjoy reading this post.
Thanks for posting, both questions as well as answers.
Now how do we get more people to take the trouble to put up such posts?
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Old October 19, 2008, 04:20 PM   #88
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Thanks Dutchy. when I first laid all the guns out on the floor, I felt overwhelmingly confused, my mindset pretty much mirroring the topic of this thread. I knew I had to educate myself to a degree. If I get some nudges, I'd be happy to post the rest of the collection..
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Old October 20, 2008, 01:58 PM   #89
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what ever you want to call them SARCO has them
the carcanos
the bertier
the argentian 7.65 X 53 is GRAF at $13 a box of 20 brand is PRIVI PARTISIAN
also carcano
I know as I have bought at both places.
when grampa?sporterized them they were worth just what he paid there was no collector value.I know because I had some
DCM 1913 springfield= $10/15
DCM 1917 enfield=$7.50
store carcano= $9.00
store #1 enfield=$10
Grants #5=$13 I bought close out 10 for $130 on Grants credit card.
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Old October 21, 2008, 02:19 PM   #90
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Officially the last one..

Ok, this gun really brought a smile to my face more than the other 39. Took me a minute to figure it out....
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Old October 21, 2008, 03:39 PM   #91
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Lacking any knowledge of the markings, I have to call this one a Communist Chinese air rifle.
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Old October 21, 2008, 06:34 PM   #92
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Way to go Jim! 100% correct. It's a communist made side cocking, spring actuated air rifle. Makes almost as much noise as a .22!
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