destroyer carbine

skip1701 · January 16, 2017, 08:44 AM

What are the thoughts on the Destroyer carbine ?

MarkCO · January 16, 2017, 08:47 AM

Rather have a PCC in 9mm.

SaxonPig · January 16, 2017, 09:45 AM

Had one for years until a buddy talked me out of it. They're cute but not so practical. Had the bolt face on mine opened a bit and shot 38 Supers in it. Some say the Super is too much pressure but mine worked fine with factory level ammo. But what do you do with a bolt action 9mm carbine?

Scorch · January 17, 2017, 12:52 AM

Kind of fun, about like having an oversized 22LR, only more expensive to feed. 100-ish yds range, kind of crude sights, but fun in a sort of way. Not practical at all, but having a centerfire carbine that has some real bite to it is different.

Model12Win · January 17, 2017, 02:33 AM

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Rather have a PCC in 9mm.

The Destroyer is a PCC in 9mm.

kozak6 · January 17, 2017, 04:03 AM

9mm Largo is a handloader's only cartridge, which is disappointing.

I would love one in 9x19, though.

It seems like a lovely rimfire alternative.

Somehow, rimfire is still only available in a box or two or at scalper's prices around here. The local gun shop has pyramids of Thunderbolts/Golden Bullets around $.13/round after tax. That's not far off from the cheapest 9mm.

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But what do you do with a bolt action 9mm carbine?

Shoot it!

skip1701 · January 17, 2017, 07:51 AM

My Dad just turned one over to me. It's not in bad shape. The bore isnt even pitted from that damn ammo, but the bolt has some slop in it. I'm hoping its just the bolt and nothing else. it is dead accurate for what it is. I'm diggin' it.

samsmix · January 17, 2017, 05:50 PM

Maybe a decent gun/cartridge combo for Javelina. Maybe turkey. I read elsewhere that people bemoan the lack of a .327 carbine. I can only imagine that they would have the same range of uses.

bamaranger · January 17, 2017, 08:52 PM

I pulled a detail in Puerto Rico about 25 years ago and saw several local police types standing about on street corners.........holding a bolt rifles that appeared to be "Destroyers". Never did get a close look at one.

Ibmikey · January 18, 2017, 08:00 AM

I have a Destroyer carbine and it is a real fun rifle, deadly accurate at 100 yds. I have killed Texas hogs with my Destroyer and FMJ ammo. The Carbine makes a nice companion for my many Star pistols in Largo.

Model12Win · January 19, 2017, 08:41 AM

Someone should make a repro in 9x19mm!

Don't know why, but I've been wanting a 9x19 bolt gun. Nobody makes them though, except one or two custom outifts who modify different guns for a lot of money.

Guv · January 21, 2017, 08:40 AM

I would be up for a 9mm bolt carbine. What a sweet ranch/camp gun that would be. Make mine a 9x19 also!

SansSouci · January 21, 2017, 01:12 PM

Not as good as an RPG for medium-sized big game; e.g., small deer, and I'm talkin' fawns.

GarrettJ · January 22, 2017, 03:05 PM

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But what do you do with a bolt action 9mm carbine?

You rebarrel it to 9x19 and screw a silencer on the end.

It's fun having a pellet rifle that shoots 147 gr. "pellets" at 1000 fps.

https://youtu.be/23Hr_6R-MdY

Model12Win · January 22, 2017, 04:28 PM

The Destroyer really didn't offer much over the El Tigre.

Half the capacity, less powerful, slower. Yeah... I'd rather have a .44 lever for defense than some 9mm bolty.

rc · January 24, 2017, 12:19 AM

Great lead bullet shooters for milsurplus plinking fun. Kinda like bowling when you hit a squirrel. Can be loaded with 38 super data if you want to push them but not any farther. Can have a 3mm ring installed in the chamber and will fire 9mm luger ammo. You just need a caliper and lathe to make one out of steel so it will last and just snug in the chamber but still allow the bullet to pass through at around .357 inside diameter. Prefer Small rifle primers because small pistol primer cups get run through by the firing pin. Makes a great truck gun for a farm butcher. Way better than 22 mag on big bulls. Not hard to find brass at starline and can use 38 super dies or 9mm luger dies to reload. Uses all common 9mm, 40, 45 ACP powders. Can sling a 115grain 9mm at 1450fps, no problem with 800X or blue dot or similar.

tinker2 · January 28, 2018, 03:37 PM

I have three destroyer carbines at this time so you can tell I like them.

The 9 mm largo cartridge is a good round for what it is.
Set the barrel back if you prefer the Luger round.
Or you can Re-barrel to the .30 Mauser or .30 Tokarev.
7.62 x 25 cases both feed in the Largo magazines
A snappy little round.

Also .45 ACP is an option; a 1911 magazine fits right in.
Just need to modify where the mag catch fits.

What’s not to like?

William Alexander

garyhan · January 29, 2018, 10:43 AM

Destroyers are lots of fun to shoot. 9mm largo is available available if you look around, including currently loaded hollow points. The ammo isn't really cheap, but you'll shoot fewer than you would with a semi auto.

smee78 · January 29, 2018, 12:38 PM

I always thought they looked like fun but have never owned one.

SIGSHR · January 29, 2018, 03:13 PM

"What do you with a bolt action 9MM carbine?"
Retrieve ALL your brass for reloading.
I have a Destroyer-still haven't fired it.
I like the idea of a 9MM carbine with interchangeable barrels for 380 ACP, 9MM, 9x23, 38 Super, 9MM Largeo, etc.

Ibmikey · January 31, 2018, 04:37 AM

Tinker 2, Thanks for the info, I have a second Destroyer that after purchase I found it had been deactivated in Spain by drilling four holes in the bottom of the barrel and grinding the firing pin. I was trying to think of an appropriate caliber and the 7.62x25 would be perfect. Now I will search for a supplier of the barrel.

January 16, 2017, 08:44 AM	#1
skip1701 Member Join Date: December 28, 2016 Posts: 20	destroyer carbine What are the thoughts on the Destroyer carbine ?

January 16, 2017, 08:47 AM	#2
MarkCO Senior Member Join Date: October 21, 1998 Location: Colorado, USA Posts: 4,308	Rather have a PCC in 9mm. __________________ Good Shooting, MarkCO www.CarbonArms.us

January 17, 2017, 12:52 AM	#4
Scorch Senior Member Join Date: February 13, 2006 Location: Washington state Posts: 15,248	Kind of fun, about like having an oversized 22LR, only more expensive to feed. 100-ish yds range, kind of crude sights, but fun in a sort of way. Not practical at all, but having a centerfire carbine that has some real bite to it is different. __________________ Never try to educate someone who resists knowledge at all costs. But what do I know? Summit Arms Services

January 17, 2017, 05:50 PM	#8
samsmix Senior Member Join Date: June 29, 2006 Location: Montana (Montucky?) Posts: 1,273	Maybe a decent gun/cartridge combo for Javelina. Maybe turkey. I read elsewhere that people bemoan the lack of a .327 carbine. I can only imagine that they would have the same range of uses. __________________ You'll probably never NEED a gun. I hope you never do. But IF you do, you will need it worse than anything you've ever needed in your life. IF we're not supposed to eat animals, howcome God made 'em outta meat?

January 17, 2017, 08:52 PM	#9
bamaranger Senior Member Join Date: October 9, 2009 Location: North Alabama Posts: 8,312	street corner I pulled a detail in Puerto Rico about 25 years ago and saw several local police types standing about on street corners.........holding a bolt rifles that appeared to be "Destroyers". Never did get a close look at one.

January 16, 2017, 09:45 AM	#3
SaxonPig Senior Member Join Date: April 24, 2006 Posts: 1,900	Had one for years until a buddy talked me out of it. They're cute but not so practical. Had the bolt face on mine opened a bit and shot 38 Supers in it. Some say the Super is too much pressure but mine worked fine with factory level ammo. But what do you do with a bolt action 9mm carbine?

January 17, 2017, 07:51 AM	#7
skip1701 Member Join Date: December 28, 2016 Posts: 20	My Dad just turned one over to me. It's not in bad shape. The bore isnt even pitted from that damn ammo, but the bolt has some slop in it. I'm hoping its just the bolt and nothing else. it is dead accurate for what it is. I'm diggin' it.

January 18, 2017, 08:00 AM	#10
Ibmikey Senior Member Join Date: June 1, 2013 Location: Now relocated to Texas Posts: 2,943	I have a Destroyer carbine and it is a real fun rifle, deadly accurate at 100 yds. I have killed Texas hogs with my Destroyer and FMJ ammo. The Carbine makes a nice companion for my many Star pistols in Largo.

January 19, 2017, 08:41 AM	#11
Model12Win Junior member Join Date: October 20, 2012 Posts: 5,854	Someone should make a repro in 9x19mm! Don't know why, but I've been wanting a 9x19 bolt gun. Nobody makes them though, except one or two custom outifts who modify different guns for a lot of money.

January 21, 2017, 08:40 AM	#12
Guv Senior Member Join Date: February 24, 2012 Location: South Texas Posts: 2,126	I would be up for a 9mm bolt carbine. What a sweet ranch/camp gun that would be. Make mine a 9x19 also! __________________ Walnut and Gloss Blue, mostly!

January 21, 2017, 01:12 PM	#13
SansSouci Senior Member Join Date: December 13, 2013 Location: Heart of Reagan Country Posts: 479	Not as good as an RPG for medium-sized big game; e.g., small deer, and I'm talkin' fawns.

January 22, 2017, 04:28 PM	#15
Model12Win Junior member Join Date: October 20, 2012 Posts: 5,854	The Destroyer really didn't offer much over the El Tigre. Half the capacity, less powerful, slower. Yeah... I'd rather have a .44 lever for defense than some 9mm bolty.

January 24, 2017, 12:19 AM	#16
rc Senior Member Join Date: April 28, 2001 Location: CA Posts: 1,768	Great lead bullet shooters for milsurplus plinking fun. Kinda like bowling when you hit a squirrel. Can be loaded with 38 super data if you want to push them but not any farther. Can have a 3mm ring installed in the chamber and will fire 9mm luger ammo. You just need a caliper and lathe to make one out of steel so it will last and just snug in the chamber but still allow the bullet to pass through at around .357 inside diameter. Prefer Small rifle primers because small pistol primer cups get run through by the firing pin. Makes a great truck gun for a farm butcher. Way better than 22 mag on big bulls. Not hard to find brass at starline and can use 38 super dies or 9mm luger dies to reload. Uses all common 9mm, 40, 45 ACP powders. Can sling a 115grain 9mm at 1450fps, no problem with 800X or blue dot or similar.

January 28, 2018, 03:37 PM	#17
tinker2 Senior Member Join Date: July 11, 2005 Location: Dakotas Posts: 144	I have three destroyer carbines at this time so you can tell I like them. The 9 mm largo cartridge is a good round for what it is. Set the barrel back if you prefer the Luger round. Or you can Re-barrel to the .30 Mauser or .30 Tokarev. 7.62 x 25 cases both feed in the Largo magazines A snappy little round. Also .45 ACP is an option; a 1911 magazine fits right in. Just need to modify where the mag catch fits. What’s not to like? William Alexander

January 29, 2018, 10:43 AM	#18
garyhan Member Join Date: June 22, 2008 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 90	Destroyers are lots of fun to shoot. 9mm largo is available available if you look around, including currently loaded hollow points. The ammo isn't really cheap, but you'll shoot fewer than you would with a semi auto.

January 29, 2018, 12:38 PM	#19
smee78 Senior Member Join Date: July 14, 2008 Location: South Carolina Posts: 2,918	I always thought they looked like fun but have never owned one. __________________ We know exactly where one cow with Mad-cow-disease is located, among the millions and millions of cows in America, but we haven't got a clue where thousands of illegal immigrants and terrorists are

January 29, 2018, 03:13 PM	#20
SIGSHR Senior Member Join Date: September 13, 2005 Posts: 4,700	"What do you with a bolt action 9MM carbine?" Retrieve ALL your brass for reloading. I have a Destroyer-still haven't fired it. I like the idea of a 9MM carbine with interchangeable barrels for 380 ACP, 9MM, 9x23, 38 Super, 9MM Largeo, etc.

January 31, 2018, 04:37 AM	#21
Ibmikey Senior Member Join Date: June 1, 2013 Location: Now relocated to Texas Posts: 2,943	Tinker 2, Thanks for the info, I have a second Destroyer that after purchase I found it had been deactivated in Spain by drilling four holes in the bottom of the barrel and grinding the firing pin. I was trying to think of an appropriate caliber and the 7.62x25 would be perfect. Now I will search for a supplier of the barrel.