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December 24, 2011, 05:34 PM | #1 |
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Is this normal size for a wolf?
First off this isn't me as you can see i live in the delta. But i was wondering fo rall you that hunt wolves in the mountains and protect elk populations etc. This size of that animal isn't normal is it? This just seems far to big for a wolf. Maybe i've never seen one and thats why but thats rather huge IMO. http://www.snipershide.com/forum/ubb...84#Post2987984
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Anything in front of the person will look relatively larger than reality. That's true for fish, deer or wolves.
However, it looks to be about the same size as a full-body mount I saw in a gunstore in Detroit in 1963, so, yeah, allowing for the camera deal, it's about right. According to a bunch of buzz here at and at THR wolf threads, a big male at around 150 is not rare. |
December 24, 2011, 08:00 PM | #3 |
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Those look about right.
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December 24, 2011, 08:11 PM | #4 |
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pretty typical I think. he ones I have seen are about that size.
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December 24, 2011, 08:55 PM | #5 |
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I wanna kill one now not that we have them around here but i never though they were that big.
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December 24, 2011, 09:07 PM | #6 |
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I've only laid eyes on 1 wild wolf in my life....it was in Wisconsin a while back, feeding on a deer that had been hit by a car. It was right next to the road...
Yes...it was that big, at least 150 lbs. |
December 25, 2011, 01:23 AM | #7 |
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On average they run about 100-120#. The ones in the pics look a bit bigger than that and are what i would consider exceptional.
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December 25, 2011, 03:49 AM | #8 |
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ive seen what Id call "city-wolves" walking down the sidewalk at about 3am here in the IL suburbs bordering on farmland.
happened about 3 times. Was probably the same fella all three times. He was a little guy, maybe 60 pounds if wolves run the same as dogs. I gotta tell you, as a semi-city slicker, that scares the hell out of me! I didnt know they came that big! |
December 25, 2011, 05:21 AM | #9 |
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That one in the pics was an unusually large one shot in Idaho. The alpha males might occasionally get that big but that's not quit the norm. They still are some very large animals. We have a huge black alpha male on our land but it's not that big. It's chased deer right past some guys blinds during rifle deer season. I posted some pics of some of the smaller wolves taken by one of the bow hunters. Here is what a more typical wolf looks like.
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December 25, 2011, 12:15 PM | #10 |
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My only experience with wolves was the one my buddy shot during our bear hunt in southeast Alaska last may. This was a young female around 75-80 lbs. My buddy that shot the wolf is 5'10" and 190 lbs.
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Wolves have very distinct size variations. The big Canadian wolves are being brought in to 'repopulate' the Western States. You might wanna buy a bigger gun.
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December 25, 2011, 02:07 PM | #12 |
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I don't know how much those two animals weigh. But average is under 100lb.
http://www.spokesman.com/stories/201...-than-hunters/ http://www.thewildlifenews.com/2010/...in-idaho-hunt/ The claims of 150lb wolves is right up there with 40lb trout. They're out there but not the norm. |
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Here in Idaho where the wolves have lots of elk/deer/sheep/calves to eat they get pretty big. I suspect in areas where there is less for them to eat they may not get as big.
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December 25, 2011, 04:48 PM | #14 |
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I have seen some very big wolves and then many smaller ones also.Of course these smaller ones were in the summer and some of the smallest were in Canada were we watched 3 that were chasing a deer that swam out into the lake we were fishing. The wolves couldn't follow the sent because it kept bringing them into the shore as the deer made good the escape
The wolf will look smaller in summer and I am dreaming of a picture with my smile in it some day also.
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December 26, 2011, 03:26 PM | #15 |
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From National Geographic
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Type:Mammal Diet:Carnivore Average life span in the wild:6 to 8 years Size:Head and body, 36 to 63 in (91 to 160 cm); Tail, 13 to 20 in (33 to 51 cm) Weight:40 to 175 lbs (18 to 79 kg) The diet of newly introduced wolves in areas that are high elk populations probably allows them to reach their genetic size limitations. |
December 26, 2011, 04:24 PM | #16 |
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Those photo's look fake to me. I've killed a 260 lb bear that wasn't nearly as large as the animals in those photo's. No way I could have held my bear up that way to pose.
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THe Idaho wolves are gorging on huge dinners of elk and deer with a few domestic pets thrown in the pile from time to time. Yes, 180 pounds is seen here officially.
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Why do they get so big here in Idaho? First, this is the largest subspecies of wolf, the Canadian Mackenzie Valley Wolf. This is not the native canus lupus irremotus that they replaced. The native Idaho wolf was much smaller and had a different temperament. Secondly, they have unlimited supply of game animals not yet depleted. Some studies document 47 elk killed per wolf. Add a number of deer and you see an amazing feast here in Idaho by these huge killers. So to the question of faking the pictures? No, not by that documented by F&G for instance in the link above. Yes, that is a big wolf and that is what they can grow to be here in Idaho. It is an alien subspecies gone wild in an ungulate population that just can't cope with these giant killing machines. I have no doubt that those photos are quite real. Here is another set of pictures of the wolf from CDA above. Yes, that is a big wolf!! http://www.skinnymoose.com/bbb/2010/...gs-first-wolf/ |
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If you see wolves in a zoo they are usually well fed and very big, wolves in Idaho are nearly as well fed and they get exercise to build muscle mass. They are naturally going to tend toward the larger end of the species
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I think they are just big boned up there from radiation accidents at all those Idaho nuke labs.
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December 27, 2011, 10:22 AM | #21 |
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I wonder if the elk/deer population in these places are taking a big hit. Regular size wolves alone feed on elk, these look as though one or two would have no problem taking down a full size elk.
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http://www.californiawolfcenter.org/learn/wolf-facts/ http://www.cosmosmith.com/mackenzie_valley_wolves.asp But hey, if you have access to "official" records that indicate that the wolves in Idaho are bigger than the previously held record, please share them with us. An unweighed and unconfirmed boastful estimate from a hunter to a newspaper reporter doesn't actually count. Quote:
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Funny how the hunter who supposedly shot this now famous record 197, 230, 230+, or 235 lb. wolf, or his guide that was supposedly along at the time, didn't think to get the kill confirmed by any officials despite knowing it was a record. Most hunters would be extremely pleased to have their name associated with the largetst known wolf kill, and yet this hunter doesn't. Odd. Oh wait, maybe there is no clear cut story, no famous hunter, no single weight or location, and no official record because the image and information are hoaxed? http://www.mtexpress.com/index2.php?ID=2005139271
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Well damn lol
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December 27, 2011, 11:05 AM | #24 |
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Hey, DNS, wow, over the top man. No response needed. LOL
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Lordy, DNS, take a valium, okay? It'll still hurt, but you won't care.
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