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December 5, 2017, 12:35 PM | #26 | |
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Every barrel maker in the world does Savage pre fit, head space is a cinch and the tools to do the job are $125 to $150. All sorts of aftermarket parts of the bolt as well.
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December 5, 2017, 12:58 PM | #27 | |
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The single piece scope base on the ranch rifle is much better (mounting any scope) than the two piece american. The shorter barrel is handy to carry. I am satisfied with the Ruger. Practical for hunting & range plinking. Let me propose three other options. I have been handling a TC venture at a local shop. It appears to be a very similar design and feature comparable rifle to the Ruger. The fit, finish and smooth operation- all look a bit better. Better stock. And comes with a 1 MOA guarantee. If I was in the market for what you want, I would definitely include this for consideration. Right at the moment, I would try this one. Tikka was mentioned and it has a good accuracy reputation. You say accuracy not a big deal. For me, why own a rifle to shoot at the range and not be as accurate as the budget will stand? Tikka has the reputation for that. One person mentioned Howa, I think that also is worth consideration. The action is sized for the 223. Very cute little package that by all credible accounts can deliver. https://www.americanhunter.org/artic...a-mini-action/ There are so many good options here. Probably these last three all preferable over the first two proposed. IMHO. I am not impressed with the free scopes. I have not seen one yet, I would care to keep. Having said that, Nikon makes some good scopes. I dont know what comes with the hog gun. Final point, I did a barrel swap on a savage striker pistol. It went very well. But this is not for the beginner or anyone on a tight budget. Way beyond where the OP is coming from. Last edited by fourbore; December 5, 2017 at 01:25 PM. |
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I own several Rugers. I went to the store intent on buying a Ruger bolt rifle. While waiting to be helped, I noticed the Savage Axis on the rack. I asked to see both it and the Ruger. I liked the feel of the Savage better and bought it. I've been very satisfied with it.
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December 5, 2017, 05:51 PM | #29 |
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For a heavy barrel I would go with the Savage. For a sporter weight I would go with neither, and get a CZ. I love my CZ 527 American in .221 Rem Fireball. The single set trigger is awesome. The weight is light, and if I were having to walk while carrying it, I would not be bogged down by the weight of it. Otherwise the Savage Axis 2 would be my next choice.
I am not bashing Ruger as I own several of their revolvers, and an AR556. I have seen a wonderful M77 Mannlicher in .270 that I would love to own if I could pay the asking price of it.
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December 5, 2017, 06:20 PM | #30 | |
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I use it as a cross check if I am wondering about another scope. Not a bad hunting scope and its good enough at 100 to tell me if other scopes are off or now.
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December 5, 2017, 08:59 PM | #32 | ||
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It isn't hard to build the wrench if you have tools or access to the tools to do so. Buliding a barrel nut wrench for Ruger American
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December 5, 2017, 09:21 PM | #33 |
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I bought the RAR in .223 with a Sig Wiskey3 scope for $710 total. In hindsight (20/20), I would have spent the extra $50 for the RAP and put a brake on it.
Nothing but a range toy, but hearing that "tink" from a steel plate at 400 yards is just plain fun. I can hit the gong at 650, but it has to be dead still in order to hear that little 55 gn hit. And dead still is something that southeast Wyoming is not all that known for. |
December 6, 2017, 05:43 PM | #34 | |
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Did anyone watch that and see what he was doing with a micrometers? Talk about a Savage (grin)
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December 7, 2017, 04:23 PM | #36 |
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So, vs readily available Savage tools at low cost and parts plentiful ?
Yea I could build it and I would do it better and I don't have that drill press, how many can though? How many hole saws did he ruined to make that hole? Notice the smoke and lack of showing the cut through? I suppose you could modify my car to race the Indy 500 but why would you spend 5 million on it when you can buy a Indy care for 1 million? In surveying (one of many careers) we would call that a forced closure.
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I have been very happy with the Ruger American in .223. I have that, and a Mossberg MVP.
I put the RA in a Boyd's stock and added a cheek riser and it is darn accurate. Mine is the all-weather standard length that I use as a trainer for precision. 77 TMKs are insane out of it. I am getting 30-40% better accuracy than my friends 223s from other makers...at a 50% or more discount. |
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Savage has my vote
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Ruger's parts and tools availability will only get better as time goes on. Quote:
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Some not so much or a wash. My neighbor as a Remington 30-06. Purely hunting. For him that does what he wants, I would not suggest anything else to or for him. Savage is not always the right fit, but its hard to beat the price and Cabella, Dick s have store models that are amazing values. Remington trigger these days is awful. Ok to hunt, if you want to target shoot then its a replaceable item. Ruger? Havn't shot a new one so no idea.
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I would like a bolt action that shoots 5.56. That is the reason I didn't buy the Savage Axis II was it only shot .223. I ended up with the Savage Axis II in 308. Not sure how that happened but I love the gun. Good luck with you choice.
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