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Old September 2, 2016, 11:46 AM   #26
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How are sales these days compared to before 41f took effect?
Sales of NFA items are much lower than they were in June and the first two weeks of July, that's for sure. And we're still not selling at the same rate we were at any time since December. But sales are increasing slowly as more and more people learn the new rules. I'm also seeing lots of customers who always were skeptical of the trust route but are now buying NFA items because they don't need a trust anymore (it was virtually impossible to get a sign-off anywhere in this area).
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Old September 10, 2016, 08:16 AM   #27
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I bought a Thunder Beast 30P-1 on 1-13-16,the Form 4 was approved 8-31-16,and the FFL called me yesterday that they finally received it.

4 days shy of 8 months from date of purchase.
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Old September 10, 2016, 05:29 PM   #28
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I talked to the two local dealers on Thursday and both report sales of silencers have completely flat-lined since July (neither stocks MGs, SBSs, or SBRs). The most recent approvals they've received were on Forms submitted in Feb.
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Old September 19, 2016, 06:29 PM   #29
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Today we got over 50 stamps in that were sent out between mid-January and mid-February. And one of those was for my LMT SBR (my seventh tax stamp but my first SBR). It's nice to see that the freeze on Form 4s seems to be over. Now let's see how long until the next batch comes in...
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Old September 22, 2016, 02:29 PM   #30
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NFA Timeline

Mine took 14 months, but I purchased mine from an out of state dealer. It had to be transferred to my dealer and then transferred again from my dealer to me. Gotta love the red tape !
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Old November 9, 2016, 10:33 PM   #31
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I Work For a Class 3 Dealer In PA

Our approvals are backed up 9-11 months now. I just had a guy get his stamp 3 days ago. We submitted his paperwork 12/19/15 (give or take a couple).

Basically submit your paperwork, find a wife, have a baby, then you get your can.
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Old November 10, 2016, 10:18 AM   #32
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The HPA's passage would be nice, but...

One local dealer is getting out of the silencer business, says before 41F he'd sell a couple per week, since July he's sold one. He has an estimated $15K in inventory which is money he could use on things that sell. He's already made contact with another local class 3 that will take all his inventory. He's not happy that ATFE can change rules on a whim when doing so has such a deleterious effect on a dealer's business.
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Old November 10, 2016, 01:42 PM   #33
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The HPA's passage would be nice, but...

One local dealer is getting out of the silencer business, says before 41F he'd sell a couple per week, since July he's sold one. He has an estimated $15K in inventory which is money he could use on things that sell. He's already made contact with another local class 3 that will take all his inventory. He's not happy that ATFE can change rules on a whim when doing so has such a deleterious effect on a dealer's business.
I bet your dealer left out the fact that he probably sold dozens a week in the weeks leading up to 41F. Lots of people who were on the fence about purchasing one or people who planned on purchasing in the future bought early to beat the deadline. In a few months sales will return to normal.
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Old November 10, 2016, 03:10 PM   #34
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No, he didn't have a rush on sales here... this is mostly rural farm and ranch country with strong traditional attitudes toward guns and hunting. The fact he sold two per week surprised both of us, but it was pretty consistent before the rule change.

He has Silencerco, AAC, YHM and a few others in stock (I don't remember all of them), so it's not like he's selling the least popular brands.
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Old November 11, 2016, 12:02 AM   #35
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Purchased Jan 28.
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288 day jail sentence..

Form 4 on a trust.

Last year, purchase made about the same time of the year took 143 days..
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Old November 11, 2016, 03:26 PM   #36
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You'd think with less cans, etc., being purchased post-July 14th, there are less F4s going into BATFE for their examiners to review; hence, you'd expect to see turn-around times on approved F4s shrinking.
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Old November 12, 2016, 10:06 AM   #37
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Just before the deadline, some companies brought in truckloads of completed forms to make the deadline. It takes the ATF 3 to 6 weeks to cash your check, and put your form into the system. Despite all that needs to happen on a Form 4 trust is to check out the form, and verify that the trust is in order, well, it still took a long time for mine. 218 days.. Another 16 days to mail it back.. Mind you, I paid for it on the 28 of January- figuring that I was "beating the rush" that was sure to ensue somewhere around July...

I pity the FFL's that sell only suppressors or sell suppressors mainly.. If nothing changes, I'd bet that a form turned in today will take nearly a year to complete; most people don't want to pay for something, and wait a year or more to get it. Personally, I probably won't consider another can for 6 months to a year.. If the bill for taking suppressors off the NFA gets passed, that will be their saving grace...
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Old November 12, 2016, 10:38 AM   #38
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Supposedly Trump wants to make buying suppressors the same as buying a gun. That's the way it should be, eliminate the ATFE stamp B.S. and the $200 fee. Pass a background check, pay for it, and walk out the door with it. Protecting what little I have left of my hearing is important to me. Handle it Donald!
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Old May 21, 2017, 06:58 PM   #39
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just got mine on Saturday; submitted paperwork last June; it took 11 months...
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Old May 21, 2017, 08:42 PM   #40
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currently bordering on "interminable".
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Old May 22, 2017, 07:39 PM   #41
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just got mine on Saturday; submitted paperwork last June; it took 11 months.
An 11-month wait for a frickin' can is B.S.
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Old May 23, 2017, 07:52 PM   #42
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I've received about a dozen stamps that were submitted the first week of July 2016.

But I have about two dozen that were submitted in June that haven't come in yet.
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Old May 26, 2017, 12:05 AM   #43
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They are currently working on submissions that went pending in early July 2016.
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Old May 26, 2017, 06:30 AM   #44
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"But I have about two dozen that were submitted in June that haven't come in yet."

Mid-June 2016 submission and still waiting.
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Old May 26, 2017, 03:56 PM   #45
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Submitted early July, just got approval, a little over 10 months.
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Old June 6, 2017, 02:31 PM   #46
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Suppressor went pending on July 18th 2017, still nothing back.
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Old June 6, 2017, 03:33 PM   #47
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Jack_Bauer24 Suppressor went pending on July 18th 2017, still nothing back.
Are you psychic?
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Old June 20, 2017, 09:29 PM   #48
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My wait is over!!! Close to a year and now I'm too busy to drive the 125 miles to pick it up. Maybe next week.
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Old June 20, 2017, 09:42 PM   #49
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My can paperwork hit ATF in October 2016, and it looks like it's going to be September 2017.
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Old June 21, 2017, 07:47 PM   #50
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Don't buy a suppressor if you're terminally ill.
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