The All new Taurus G3c

[Jagrbomb]

Why buy a Taurus? Is it because that is all you can afford? Taurus quality has been terrible for years. I have said it many times - if someone GAVE me a Taurus, I would not want it...

Why risk it? No, 100% of the guns they make don't break - but they seem to have WAY higher of a percentage of problems, compared to other brands. IF money IS an issue.... When you can buy an M&P Shield for $250 or less, WHY buy a Taurus? Don't like the Shield? There are still other, higher quality firearms in the $300 range. Hell, the Beretta APX is around the $300 mark if you look hard enough online.

If you REALLY WANT to buy a Taurus, and you know what you are doing - I GUESS, go ahead.... Knock yourself out.

But, too many gun newbies fall for Taurus products... They walk in the door and see the price of the Taurus guns compared to everything else. Then, the know nothing sales person (usually at a big box chain store, because a good % of real gun stores will not even carry the brand) will tell the newbie how good the gun is.

Then, after the 1st range trip, they post at a gun forum, asking for help. And by the time they pay for shipping (in the past, Taurus refused to cover shipping - not sure about 2020), the gun was no longer cheap (it's over $50 to ship a gun back to the manufacturer).... Then, be prepared to wait forever to get the gun back...

And, how many times have I see posts on various forums of guns being returned by Taurus with NOTHING done to them?

Even the various CEOs can't change things, no matter what they promised...

People point to the newest 2020 CEO as "turning the company around." But, look at Taurus history:

Back in 2010 - Someone quotes an article about how the new CEO of Taurus (Mark Kressler) will help improve quality... : https://thefiringline.com/forums/sho...taurus+quality


I then did an internet search of the CEO prior to Kressler. His name was Bob Morrison, and he was CEO in the earlier 2000s. I couldn't find even ONE article where he said he would improve quality... Go figure...


In 2012, the Taurus CEO, Mark Kressler, promises "new products, better customer relations and higher quality": https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/taurus-no-more-bull/


But then in 2014, that CEO (Mark Kresser,) was fired... He was a CEO who had "led the charge at Taurus to tighten quality control."

https://www.guns.com/news/2014/07/31...ny-acquisition


And, his replacement CEO plans to repair the Taurus reputation in 2014 (Anthony Acitelli): https://www.shootingsportsretailer.c...thony-acitelli


In 2015, that same CEO (Anthony Acitelli) said: "the agreement is a step to rebuild the brand’s credibility". He was referring to a class action lawsuit about defective guns...

https://www.guns.com/news/2015/12/21...es-still-ahead


Furthermore: Acitelli said: "A company that stands behind its product and is willing to do the right thing for the customer actually gives us credibility."

https://mhhlaw.net/taurus-ready-to-r...s-still-ahead/


Acitelli eventually left, and in 2017, the new CEO (David Blenker) said: “We have a very dedicated work force that is committed to making Taurus the top brand and I’m excited to be leading the team with this vision.

https://www.ammoland.com/2017/10/tau...#axzz6PpJLkOTy


But, in Jan 2020, David Blecker leaves, and he is replaced by Bret Vorhees. Here, Vorhees, the new Taurus CEO, vows to improve quality in April 2020:

https://forum.mcarbo.com/t/taurus-le...customers/9170



Yea, it's gonna happen.... After all these years, Taurus is "better."

[Jagrbomb]

And look at this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2fn6...ature=emb_logo
(this is just, so, so sad...)



Paired with this:

Defective Guns in The US: A Dark Tale With No Recalls


https://www.johnuustal.com/blog/12/d...t-defect-laws/


And, people have died....


How Defective Guns Became the Only Product That Can’t Be Recalled

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/featu...-t-be-recalled


News of the settled lawsuit:

https://topclassactions.com/lawsuit-...n-settles-38m/

https://thomasjhenrylaw.com/blog/prod



Once again... You want a Taurus, why?

[railroader]

I personally have purchased 2 Taurus firearms in the last year. I bought a 627 Tracker 357 revolver and a TX22 pistol. The TX22 is a blast to shoot. It is very ergonomic, accurate, reliable and it has a great trigger. The 627 revolver has been very good too. No complaints. As for the new G3C I would be interested but I already have few guns to fill that role.

[Pukindog12]

I have owned three different PT-111 G2s over the years and they were good guns. I did not have a single problem out of any of them. But as stated before the 3GCs and G2s are slightly improved PT-111 G2s. The G3C does intrigue me but not enough to buy one. I just don't see it dethroning my FNS 9c(s) which i deem a far superior product. The FNS 9c is, IMO, the best pistol in it's respective role. By far.

But I do hope the G3c does well. Looks to be a winner.

[gc70]

Originally Posted by Jagrbomb

Why buy a Taurus? Is it because that is all you can afford? Taurus quality has been terrible for years. I have said it many times - if someone GAVE me a Taurus, I would not want it...

It is okay to dislike a brand, but understand that others have had different experiences and hold different opinions.

In the last decade, I have sent new Beretta, Colt, Rock Island, Sig (x2) and S&W pistols back to the factory. I have also had parts service that did not require returning the pistol involving Ruger and Walther. Some of the customer service was superb and some was mediocre.

What really matters is the quality of product a company is producing today and the level of customer service it is currently providing.

[jman841]

I agree, I just purchased a Ruger LCP 2 which is known to be very reliable, however mine was a lemon. Every mag I would have 1-2 failures to extract.

To Rugers credit, I sent it off to them with a prepaid label from my house and got it back a week later directly to my house.

With my Gen 4 Glock 19, As I got it when they were first released, I had issues with recoil springs (They sent me the updated version, twice), and the ejector, which they would not send me as it had to be replaced by a glock certified armorer, so I ended up having to purchase it on my own and replace it myself as it was less expensive than paying an armorer.

All companies have issues, Taurus may have had more than others in the past, But with the PT111/G2/G2c/G3/G3c series, it seems most have had very good experiences and excellent reliability.

[wmg1299]

Originally Posted by Mosin44az

If they actually fixed the trigger with the G3C, it becomes more interesting. Dislike the long sweep and extreme rear reset on the G2.

I'm hopeful that the trigger improvements are as good as Taurus claims. I own a G2, along with several similar pistols from more respected manufacturers, and the trigger was the only that prevented it from being my ideal carry gun. It broke so far back that it was difficult for both me (large hands) and my wife (small to medium hands) to manipulate without pulling low left when firing at a brisk pace. I love the idea of having quality pistols at affordable prices and would like to see Taurus succeed in this area.

[jetinteriorguy]

I suffered from the same thing with my G2C and sold it. Otherwise I loved the gun. Looking at the videos on the G3 it looks to me like the trigger still breaks too far back to be any kind of improvement.

[jman841]

Originally Posted by wmg1299

I'm hopeful that the trigger improvements are as good as Taurus claims. I own a G2, along with several similar pistols from more respected manufacturers, and the trigger was the only that prevented it from being my ideal carry gun. It broke so far back that it was difficult for both me (large hands) and my wife (small to medium hands) to manipulate without pulling low left when firing at a brisk pace. I love the idea of having quality pistols at affordable prices and would like to see Taurus succeed in this area.

This looks like it solves the issue, however will remove the double strike capability. I personally think double strike capability is silly, unless you're running an under-powered striker spring.

Now, it would of been genius if they had a decocker on it to give it a longer heavier first shot pull for carry, if you wanted to use it.

Trigger solution: https://www.keeptinkering.com/shop

[allenomics]

The Taurus G3c is in stock in my local guns shops, but due to high prices associated with COVID-19 and market demand, it is not a bargain. It sells for $329. The G2c - pre-COVID sold for $189-$239. The G3c should be priced comparably once the market returns to normal.

[jman841]

Originally Posted by allenomics

The Taurus G3c is in stock in my local guns shops, but due to high prices associated with COVID-19 and market demand, it is not a bargain. It sells for $329. The G2c - pre-COVID sold for $189-$239. The G3c should be priced comparably once the market returns to normal.

That is really high, I've seen it for $250-$260 which is on par with the G3.

[TunnelRat]

Originally Posted by jman841

That is really high, I've seen it for $250-$260 which is on par with the G3.

Where did you see it for that? I’ve seen it anywhere from $280-$320.


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[jimku]

If it's like a Glock I wouldn't want it even if it was made of unobtainium.

[jman841]

Originally Posted by TunnelRat

Where did you see it for that? I’ve seen it anywhere from $280-$320.


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Sportsmans says they have them in stock and at $250

RK Guns has them for $259 but out of stock at the moment. a few other places too.

https://www.sportsmans.com/shooting-...unds/p/1651268

[TunnelRat]

When I click the link it says “Notify When in Stock”.


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[jman841]

Interesting, a minute ago it said In Stock.

Either way, prices are not hiked up everywhere, just have to time the inventory right hah.

[TunnelRat]

Eh, it’s easy to list something for a lower price when you don’t have it in stock. I see it happen at online retailers all the time. Often when it does come back in stock the price bumps up. That might not be the case here, it’s just been my experience.


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[Xpain2day]

Bought a Taurus G3C today. Lubed it up quickly and took it to the range. Want to share my thoughts.

Reasons for purchase:
1) I wanted a concealable striker fired pistol with 10+ capacity
2) fit perfect in my hand
3) have read and heard it's extremely reliable
4] great price and value
5) like the double strike capability
6) like all the after market options

I go to the range a couple of times a month, so I'll know if I can trust the firearm to go bang every time. This is critical and should be done with any firearm.

At the range and at home I learned the following:
1) worked flawlessly at the range
2) love the grip texture and size. Controls recoil extremely well and returns to target very easily.
3) very easy to break down and reassemble
4) perfect size. Small enough to conceal, but not so small I can't get a good grip. Can quickly retrieve from holster

This seems to be a perfectly fine firearm for people who baby their weapons. i.e.: clean and lube regularly. And for people on a budget. I might pass on this firearm if 1) I did not go to the range regularly, or 2) I was going to abuse and neglect the firearm, in which case I'd go with a more proven military weapon.

Overall, so far, very happy with the purchase.

[Xpain2day]

Bought a Taurus G3C today. Lubed it up quickly and took it to the range. Want to share my thoughts.

Reasons for purchase:
1) I wanted a concealable striker fired pistol with 10+ capacity
2) fit perfect in my hand
3) have read and heard it's extremely reliable
4] great price and value
5) like the double strike capability
6) like all the after market options

I go to the range a couple of times a month, so I'll know if I can trust the firearm to go bang every time. This is critical and should be done with any firearm.

At the range and at home I learned the following:
1) worked flawlessly at the range
2) love the grip texture and size. Controls recoil extremely well and returns to target very easily.
3) very easy to break down and reassemble
4) perfect size. Small enough to conceal, but not so small I can't get a good grip. Can quickly retrieve from holster

This seems to be a perfectly fine firearm for people who baby their weapons. i.e.: clean and lube regularly. And for people on a budget. I might pass on this firearm if 1) I did not go to the range regularly, or 2) I was going to abuse and neglect the firearm, in which case I'd go with a more proven military weapon.

Overall, so far, very happy with the purchase.

[cmdc]

Has anyone installed an aftermarket trigger on the G2c, and which one would you recommend?

[BigMikey76]

I have owned a PT111 G2 and a G2C. Both are great guns and 100% trustworthy. The PT111 G2 got passed on to my son when he moved into his first apartment, and the G2C is my wife's designated home defense gun (because it is the one she shoots the best). Trusting them enough to protect my family is pretty much the best review I can give them.

The G3C is new, so It may well have a bug or two on arrival, but it's lineage gives me every reason to assume it will be a good option. For those asking what it is intended to compete with, I would say it is closest to the G26 - basically the same dimensions, but higher standard capacity and half the price. It is also a reasonable competitor to some of the single stacks - not that much bigger than the Shield, for example.

[Big Shrek]

My wifey is still shooting and EDC'ing her 1st Gen Taurus 24/7 Pro C in Pink.
It's never failed her, and she is really happy with it.
Her backup pistol is another one exactly the same except blued...
which used to be mine before she commandeered it
She loves the 17+1 capacity with its small size.

I checked them both for the Fatal Safety Flaw when it hit the news, neither had the issue.
Did have one bad magazine, sent it back to Taurus of Florida, they sent her two new ones that worked.
We're happy with the way Taurus Customer Service operates, but I also know how to work my way
thru CSR's...there is a way to handle issues which gets your problem solved,
as opposed to having long waits and bigger problems.
Kind of like dropping a car off with a "Something is wrong with it"...and leaving ain't gonna get squat done.


It's all in how one talks to the CSR, and in also putting a printed note in with the repair item.
In that note you detail the problem...so that the repair guy who only gets a ticket from the CSR
(and you are lucky if the CSR puts in more than "doesn't work" in the comments section)
can quickly fix the issue instead of wondering what the heck is wrong and putting it on the back shelf.
If you want something fixed, you've got to help the repair guy as much as possible with good information.
And just Describe The Problem...don't second guess what's wrong with it, keep it simple.
The tech will solve it better that way, and usually faster.

Be nice to the support people, and they'll usually bend over backwards to solve your issues.
Y'all have no idea how many scumbags call in and rant like heck...those jokers are ALWAYS back-burnered.
Squeaky mean wheel gets poop to grease with, that's just a stone cold fact.

[Carl the Floor Walker]

Originally Posted by Jagrbomb

Why buy a Taurus? Is it because that is all you can afford? Taurus quality has been terrible for years. I have said it many times - if someone GAVE me a Taurus, I would not want it...

Why risk it? No, 100% of the guns they make don't break - but they seem to have WAY higher of a percentage of problems, compared to other brands. IF money IS an issue.... When you can buy an M&P Shield for $250 or less, WHY buy a Taurus? Don't like the Shield? There are still other, higher quality firearms in the $300 range. Hell, the Beretta APX is around the $300 mark if you look hard enough online.

If you REALLY WANT to buy a Taurus, and you know what you are doing - I GUESS, go ahead.... Knock yourself out.

But, too many gun newbies fall for Taurus products... They walk in the door and see the price of the Taurus guns compared to everything else. Then, the know nothing sales person (usually at a big box chain store, because a good % of real gun stores will not even carry the brand) will tell the newbie how good the gun is.

Then, after the 1st range trip, they post at a gun forum, asking for help. And by the time they pay for shipping (in the past, Taurus refused to cover shipping - not sure about 2020), the gun was no longer cheap (it's over $50 to ship a gun back to the manufacturer).... Then, be prepared to wait forever to get the gun back...

And, how many times have I see posts on various forums of guns being returned by Taurus with NOTHING done to them?

Even the various CEOs can't change things, no matter what they promised...

People point to the newest 2020 CEO as "turning the company around." But, look at Taurus history:

Back in 2010 - Someone quotes an article about how the new CEO of Taurus (Mark Kressler) will help improve quality... : https://thefiringline.com/forums/sho...taurus+quality


I then did an internet search of the CEO prior to Kressler. His name was Bob Morrison, and he was CEO in the earlier 2000s. I couldn't find even ONE article where he said he would improve quality... Go figure...


In 2012, the Taurus CEO, Mark Kressler, promises "new products, better customer relations and higher quality": https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/taurus-no-more-bull/


But then in 2014, that CEO (Mark Kresser,) was fired... He was a CEO who had "led the charge at Taurus to tighten quality control."

https://www.guns.com/news/2014/07/31...ny-acquisition


And, his replacement CEO plans to repair the Taurus reputation in 2014 (Anthony Acitelli): https://www.shootingsportsretailer.c...thony-acitelli


In 2015, that same CEO (Anthony Acitelli) said: "the agreement is a step to rebuild the brand’s credibility". He was referring to a class action lawsuit about defective guns...

https://www.guns.com/news/2015/12/21...es-still-ahead


Furthermore: Acitelli said: "A company that stands behind its product and is willing to do the right thing for the customer actually gives us credibility."

https://mhhlaw.net/taurus-ready-to-r...s-still-ahead/


Acitelli eventually left, and in 2017, the new CEO (David Blenker) said: “We have a very dedicated work force that is committed to making Taurus the top brand and I’m excited to be leading the team with this vision.

https://www.ammoland.com/2017/10/tau...#axzz6PpJLkOTy


But, in Jan 2020, David Blecker leaves, and he is replaced by Bret Vorhees. Here, Vorhees, the new Taurus CEO, vows to improve quality in April 2020:

https://forum.mcarbo.com/t/taurus-le...customers/9170



Yea, it's gonna happen.... After all these years, Taurus is "better."

Wow, that is a really bias statement and just opinion period. I do not own a Taurus never have. I have shot many over the years and know folks in my club that have owned them for years and love them. You say things in your statement like "But, too many gun newbies fall for Taurus products... They walk in the door and see the price of the Taurus guns compared to everything else. Then, the know nothing sales person (usually at a big box chain store, because a good % of real gun stores will not even carry the brand) will tell the newbie how good the gun is."

Lol, all my LGS in my area carry Taurus and they are REAL gun stores. I have seen them in all stores for decades. I do not need to go into further comments other than to say I disagree with your statement.
I have shot the New Taurus G3 and it was a fine shooter. No bias and no dog to kick on this subject. I do not plan to buy one, I have my favorites already. But all this kind of Bashing just does not jive with all the guns from Taurus I have shot over the years. Yes some I thought sucked, others shot very well and good quality.

The OP asked about the G3, and again a fine shooting firearm IMO. I like the grip, the trigger and the shooting characteristics.

[artoo]

I've shot and own a Taurus G3C and it is a fine piece.

I also own various Taurus pistols of various models ( G2S, PLY-22, PT-22, PT732, and a PT58) that work just fine.

I had the G2C but traded for the G3C.

[kymasabe]

Originally Posted by Forte S+W

Congratulations. Between my family and I, there are a total of 5 Taurus brand firearms, and so far they've all been 100% reliable.

5? Seriously? No problems?
You should buy a lottery ticket right now !!