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Old September 1, 2009, 05:13 PM   #1
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Pistol identification

My son recently managed to lose a pistol belonging to his (deceased) uncle. I will probably have to replace it. What I know for sure: 1) It was brought back after WWII from Germany, 2) it had a snake symbol on the grip (coiled like a cobra). After looking on line, I think it was a Walther PPK.

Any help it identifying the pistol and getting a value would be appreciated.
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Old September 1, 2009, 05:26 PM   #2
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You don't have the pistol... and you want us to identify it and give a value?

No pictures?
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Old September 1, 2009, 07:32 PM   #3
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Y'know, it's about so long, and so wide and it's some caliber or other, and it's y'know...
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Old September 1, 2009, 07:58 PM   #4
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If he lost it...

... and you don't have a serial number, let alone make and model, I seriously doubt you'll get anything from insurance.

Who would you replace it for, if the owner is deceased?
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Old September 1, 2009, 09:45 PM   #5
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I wouldn't even try to replace it unless you can get some better info. I think I would just offer the heirs of the deceased man some sum of money, say $200. The actual pistol is presumably gone, and they can't replace it, so they might be willing to accept money instead of another gun with no connection to the deceased.

FWIW, the Walther PPK is still made (in the US) and can be ordered at any gun store; WWII vintage ones are seen at every gun show.

Edited to add: That "coiled snake" rang a bell. There is a pistol called the Ortgies which has a symbol on the grip that could be taken for a snake (it is actually a stylized "D" for the manufacturer Deutsche Werke, AG). Here is a picture of the Ortgies:

http://www.gunsworld.com/gun_pistols/ortgies_us.html

If that is the gun, $200-250 would be a fair value.

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Old September 1, 2009, 11:13 PM   #6
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Pistol Identifiction - Ortgies

Thanks to Jim Keenan for your assistance. That is indeed the pistol that was lost. I had hoped that the symbol on the side would help in its identification. I very much appreciate your help and compliment you on your expertise.
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Old September 2, 2009, 09:55 AM   #7
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The guys on this site are amazing. From what little description was available from the OP, you are able to identify the gun. Again, amazing.
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Old September 2, 2009, 10:49 AM   #8
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Rascal2...

... if your uncle's heirs haven't already, you should strongly recommend to them that they record what firearms they have, by make, model, and serial number, plus get some pictures.

That way, in case of future loss, they may have some ability to file a claim.

Good luck,

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