S&W Sigma pics

Hawgleg44 · October 31, 2004, 09:24 PM

It was suggested in another thread that we post pics of our Sigmas. I figured I'd start it with a pic of my SW40G (with M4 Streamlight), SW40VE, SW9VE and SW357V.

I'm still having trouble posting pics. If anyone can give me a hand with this, I'd appreciate it.

WillBrayjr · October 31, 2004, 09:27 PM

i never seen so many magazines with one handgun in my life!

Hawgleg44 · October 31, 2004, 09:29 PM

I have this thing about mags. If you think that's a lot of mags, you should see how many I have for my AR and AK's!

denfoote · October 31, 2004, 11:14 PM

SW40F with the original EVIL FACTORY SUPPLIED 15 round mags!!!!!

Hawgleg44 · October 31, 2004, 11:18 PM

That's exactly what I was issued on my former PD, and they still use them today. They have never had a problem with any of them. Wish I could have bought mine when I left, but it was a small department and they needed it to pass on to the next guy in line.

Te Anau · November 1, 2004, 11:18 AM

What kind of attachment rail do the Sigmas have? I have a new 9mm but am unsure what to use for a laser or the like.

Hawgleg44 · November 1, 2004, 03:20 PM

I don't know what lasers are available for the Sigma, but the equipment rail is a one-of-a-kind. It uses the Streamlight M4. Possibly they make a light/laser combination for it, but I'm not sure.

Te Anau · November 1, 2004, 08:15 PM

I knew they didnt have the same "standard" rail that other semis seem to have.Wonder why S&W did such a thing???????

Hawgleg44 · November 1, 2004, 09:51 PM

HK did the same thing on their USP models. Their rail is similar to the Sigma with it's closed front, but they are not interchangable.

Still messing with the camera and lighting, but the pics are coming out like crap. Maybe I'll be able to edit my pics and get them right by tomorrow.

cagedruss · November 2, 2004, 12:57 AM

Has anybody found any info for the laser/light mounts? I have a 9ve I would like to add a light. Also, what are the options for the trigger? Mine feels like it is 1" long and about 10lbs to pull. I will try the polishing of the parts, but I would also like to reduce some of the spring.

Te Anau · November 2, 2004, 09:42 AM

Take a look at the site below and see if anyone can tell which to order.Im looking at "Model No. LS03-EC01-M4" and "Model No. LS04-NO-M5".One is a "tactical slide mount" and the other is a "universal mount".

Te Anau · November 6, 2004, 10:05 AM

Lets try it again.They say the M5 comes with a S&W adapter but ive been led to believe you have to use M4 stuff on a Sigma.

http://www.lasermate.com/aimer.html
Scratch the "LS04",thats a trigger guard mount.

Hawgleg44 · November 9, 2004, 10:01 PM

I can't figure out their applications. You may want to contact them directly. They group the same mount of the Glock as the SW40, which would be the Sigma. But, they are completely different mounts.

CopeLC · November 9, 2004, 11:37 PM

How many of them actually work? Just kidding. I don't know why people despise the Sigma so much. I had one that I liked, the 40VE, but traded it in for another 45. I just can't handle learning how to take different kinds of guns apart or learning different trigger pulls. I regret it a little bit, but I really like my new Springfield.

You've got a really nice selection. I can relate to having a bunch of the same kinds of pistols so you are familiar with every one of them since they all work and tear down the same way. But, I think you're short a few magazines. Five more mags for each handgun and you'll have full compliment.

cagedruss · November 10, 2004, 12:03 AM

Here is the paragraph that tells which one you need;

Universal Mount: (M3 Mount)
Work with Pad Switch and available for most types of pistols including Beretta 92, Glock (all model), Gov't Model 1911 Frames (all mark), Hl Power Frames (all mark), HK USP, Makarov. 380, Ruger P Series, Sig 220/226/228, Smith & Wesson (round trigger guard, square trigger guard & sigma series), Takarev 213, Taurus 92

there is 4 different kits, either universal kits will work for the Sigma.

Russ

Hawgleg44 · November 10, 2004, 07:52 AM

Yeah, I know I need a few more mags. I'm still picking them up every time I run into a good deal.

I have a lot of other handguns, mostly S&W revolvers and TDA or DAO autos, but I just find the Sigma to be the most natural and comfortable handgun I've picked up. I'd like to check out one of the SA XD series, but not here in MA. Can't get them here. The one thing I don't like about them is the grip safety. Not necessary IMO.

I've owned 4 1911's, but I ended up selling or trading them away. I got a Chinese MAK-90 NIB and a NIB S&W 4506 for my SW1911 I had. I like the 4506 better and the AK was just another added bonus for trading.

cagedruss · November 10, 2004, 03:12 PM

Came across this site last night trying to sleep. I am not all that happy with the trigger pull with my 9VE either. If the damn thing did not shoot so good, I would have given up on the thing. I did already change out the trigger spring with a replacement I found at a local hardware store. Perfect fit and it did help a little with the tension of the intitial pull. I am going to order the complete spring kit to drop the pull to 3.5lbs, factory is 4.75lbs.

I purchased my 9VE for under $300 new 2 months ago, so I feel I can invest a few dollars into it to make it perfect.

sping & guide rod upgrades

Hawgleg44 · November 23, 2004, 01:55 PM

I just traded for another Sigma, an SW9F. So hopefully, these will be better pics than the last ones.

jbkalla · November 25, 2004, 04:34 AM

I've only shot my P229. Is there any advantage to the Sigma? I'm a new shooter and am curious. It took me a long time to decide between the two. With the Hogue grips, my P229 fits perfect in my hand.

denfoote · November 25, 2004, 08:01 PM

That SW9F sticks out, don't it????
Nice collection!!
I'm think'in of gett'in another one!!!
CDNN has 'em for $250 or so!!
Now, just gotta convince the wife!!

Hawgleg44 · November 25, 2004, 10:36 PM

I've only shot my P229. Is there any advantage to the Sigma? I'm a new shooter and am curious. It took me a long time to decide between the two. With the Hogue grips, my P229 fits perfect in my hand.

They are both excellent pistols with excellent reputations. I had a DAO P229 in .40S&W, but I traded it away. I love S&W DAO's since the hammer is cocked half way by the slide, but Sig's DAO trigger pull is WAY too long.

If your Sig fits your hand and you hit well with it, I wouldn't change a thing. Probably the best thing to do is to save up and buy a Sigma, too! I love the Sigmas, but they are by no means the only handguns I own. All my others are S&W K and N-frame revolvers, S&W 3rd Generation autos in 9mm and .45, a Kahr MK40, an old Colt Police Positive and a Ruger Super Single Six. I've owned Berettas and Sigs before, but they just weren't for me.

That SW9F sticks out, don't it????
Nice collection!!

Yeah, it sure does. I had one just like it before, except a little worn, but the frame cracked on it, just like most of the older, pre-equipment rail guns do after a while. That's why I have the SW9VE now. I did a trade deal for an older Colt AR upper for the 9F and some mags last week. I had a 40F, but I had to turn it in when I left the PD here in town to move on to another LE position. They don't allow you to buy your duty gun since it's a very small dept and they have to pass it on to the new guy taking your place. A guy on the PD now has an SW40VE with a black slide (I thought they were all bead blasted SS) that he wants me to buy from him. We'll see what he wants for it.

Thanks for the compliment on the collection. I play around with leather work, too, and they are laid out on a nice Bison hide I picked up. It's too soft for a holster, so I'm still trying to figure out what to make out of it. I'm thinking about making some zippered gun rugs with sheep skin on the inside.

jbkalla · November 26, 2004, 01:53 AM

OK. I love my gun so much I'm posting a pic of it! I know it's just another P229, but it's mine! Hope this isn't too far off the subject!

Hawgleg44 · November 26, 2004, 08:14 AM

I guess we can let it slide :')

It looks good. After shooting my friends P226, I felt I probably should have sent my P229 back to Sig to have it converted to TDA. I'll bet I would have liked it then. Live and learn I guess. Those are the same grips my friend put on his.

zappadragon · February 4, 2005, 04:16 AM

Hawgleg44 let me know if you ever want to sell the SW9VE

357SIG · February 4, 2005, 08:18 AM

Yeah, that's a lot of magazines.
You mean you have MORE for your AK ?
C'mon! Let's see them!!!

October 31, 2004, 11:14 PM	#4
denfoote Senior Member Join Date: November 12, 1999 Location: Buckeye Arizona Posts: 5,526	Now we're getting somewhere!!!! SW40F with the original EVIL FACTORY SUPPLIED 15 round mags!!!!! __________________ Ich bin kein Nationalsozialist!!!!!! Ich bin Republikaner!!!!!!!! Neca eos omnes. Deus suos agnoset. Arizona: Flush the Johns!!!

October 31, 2004, 11:18 PM	#5
Hawgleg44 Senior Member Join Date: June 19, 2004 Location: People's Republic of Massachusetts Posts: 440	That's exactly what I was issued on my former PD, and they still use them today. They have never had a problem with any of them. Wish I could have bought mine when I left, but it was a small department and they needed it to pass on to the next guy in line. __________________ Results of the 1998 Massachusetts gun laws: It is important to keep in mind the ISP reports show that firearm related homicides decreased 56% from 1994 to 1998. From 1998 to 2002, firearm related homicides increased 48%. During the same time, firearm related accidental deaths have increased 200%. Will work for ammo.

November 1, 2004, 03:20 PM	#7
Hawgleg44 Senior Member Join Date: June 19, 2004 Location: People's Republic of Massachusetts Posts: 440	I don't know what lasers are available for the Sigma, but the equipment rail is a one-of-a-kind. It uses the Streamlight M4. Possibly they make a light/laser combination for it, but I'm not sure. __________________ Results of the 1998 Massachusetts gun laws: It is important to keep in mind the ISP reports show that firearm related homicides decreased 56% from 1994 to 1998. From 1998 to 2002, firearm related homicides increased 48%. During the same time, firearm related accidental deaths have increased 200%. Will work for ammo.

November 1, 2004, 09:51 PM	#9
Hawgleg44 Senior Member Join Date: June 19, 2004 Location: People's Republic of Massachusetts Posts: 440	HK did the same thing on their USP models. Their rail is similar to the Sigma with it's closed front, but they are not interchangable. Still messing with the camera and lighting, but the pics are coming out like crap. Maybe I'll be able to edit my pics and get them right by tomorrow. __________________ Results of the 1998 Massachusetts gun laws: It is important to keep in mind the ISP reports show that firearm related homicides decreased 56% from 1994 to 1998. From 1998 to 2002, firearm related homicides increased 48%. During the same time, firearm related accidental deaths have increased 200%. Will work for ammo.

November 2, 2004, 12:57 AM	#10
cagedruss Junior Member Join Date: October 24, 2004 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 14	Questions Has anybody found any info for the laser/light mounts? I have a 9ve I would like to add a light. Also, what are the options for the trigger? Mine feels like it is 1" long and about 10lbs to pull. I will try the polishing of the parts, but I would also like to reduce some of the spring. __________________ Styer M40 & SW9VE user, Racer and QA1 and Carrera dealer

October 31, 2004, 09:27 PM	#2
WillBrayjr Junior member Join Date: September 26, 2004 Location: Northern Indiana Posts: 1,881	i never seen so many magazines with one handgun in my life!

November 1, 2004, 11:18 AM	#6
Te Anau Senior Member Join Date: June 17, 2004 Location: Somewhere south of the No Posts: 3,824	What kind of attachment rail do the Sigmas have? I have a new 9mm but am unsure what to use for a laser or the like.

November 1, 2004, 08:15 PM	#8
Te Anau Senior Member Join Date: June 17, 2004 Location: Somewhere south of the No Posts: 3,824	I knew they didnt have the same "standard" rail that other semis seem to have.Wonder why S&W did such a thing???????

November 2, 2004, 09:42 AM	#11
Te Anau Senior Member Join Date: June 17, 2004 Location: Somewhere south of the No Posts: 3,824	Take a look at the site below and see if anyone can tell which to order.Im looking at "Model No. LS03-EC01-M4" and "Model No. LS04-NO-M5".One is a "tactical slide mount" and the other is a "universal mount".

November 6, 2004, 10:05 AM	#12
Te Anau Senior Member Join Date: June 17, 2004 Location: Somewhere south of the No Posts: 3,824	Lets try it again.They say the M5 comes with a S&W adapter but ive been led to believe you have to use M4 stuff on a Sigma. http://www.lasermate.com/aimer.html Scratch the "LS04",thats a trigger guard mount.

November 9, 2004, 10:01 PM	#13
Hawgleg44 Senior Member Join Date: June 19, 2004 Location: People's Republic of Massachusetts Posts: 440	I can't figure out their applications. You may want to contact them directly. They group the same mount of the Glock as the SW40, which would be the Sigma. But, they are completely different mounts. __________________ Results of the 1998 Massachusetts gun laws: It is important to keep in mind the ISP reports show that firearm related homicides decreased 56% from 1994 to 1998. From 1998 to 2002, firearm related homicides increased 48%. During the same time, firearm related accidental deaths have increased 200%. Will work for ammo.

November 9, 2004, 11:37 PM	#14
CopeLC Member Join Date: June 25, 2004 Location: Georgia, USA Posts: 95	How many of them actually work? Just kidding. I don't know why people despise the Sigma so much. I had one that I liked, the 40VE, but traded it in for another 45. I just can't handle learning how to take different kinds of guns apart or learning different trigger pulls. I regret it a little bit, but I really like my new Springfield. You've got a really nice selection. I can relate to having a bunch of the same kinds of pistols so you are familiar with every one of them since they all work and tear down the same way. But, I think you're short a few magazines. Five more mags for each handgun and you'll have full compliment. __________________ [1]Kimber Custom II Pkzd [2]Kimber .22LR Target Conversion Kit [3]Kimber Ultra Compact Pkzd [4]SA XD45ACP 4" Service Model Pkzd [5]SA XD9 4" Service Model Pkzd [6]Sig P229 9x19 Pkzd [7]Vector Underfolder 7.62x39mm [8]RRA Elite CAR A4 / Surefire M85 / ARMS #40L / IOR M2 / Specter SOP w/TRB and ERB [9]RRA CAR A4 / YHM Quad Rail FF / Aimpoint CompML2 / ARMS #40 / Surefire M951C / Specter SOP w/TRB and ERB

November 10, 2004, 12:03 AM	#15
cagedruss Junior Member Join Date: October 24, 2004 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 14	Here is the paragraph that tells which one you need; Universal Mount: (M3 Mount) Work with Pad Switch and available for most types of pistols including Beretta 92, Glock (all model), Gov't Model 1911 Frames (all mark), Hl Power Frames (all mark), HK USP, Makarov. 380, Ruger P Series, Sig 220/226/228, Smith & Wesson (round trigger guard, square trigger guard & sigma series), Takarev 213, Taurus 92 there is 4 different kits, either universal kits will work for the Sigma. Russ __________________ Styer M40 & SW9VE user, Racer and QA1 and Carrera dealer

November 10, 2004, 07:52 AM	#16
Hawgleg44 Senior Member Join Date: June 19, 2004 Location: People's Republic of Massachusetts Posts: 440	Yeah, I know I need a few more mags. I'm still picking them up every time I run into a good deal. I have a lot of other handguns, mostly S&W revolvers and TDA or DAO autos, but I just find the Sigma to be the most natural and comfortable handgun I've picked up. I'd like to check out one of the SA XD series, but not here in MA. Can't get them here. The one thing I don't like about them is the grip safety. Not necessary IMO. I've owned 4 1911's, but I ended up selling or trading them away. I got a Chinese MAK-90 NIB and a NIB S&W 4506 for my SW1911 I had. I like the 4506 better and the AK was just another added bonus for trading. __________________ Results of the 1998 Massachusetts gun laws: It is important to keep in mind the ISP reports show that firearm related homicides decreased 56% from 1994 to 1998. From 1998 to 2002, firearm related homicides increased 48%. During the same time, firearm related accidental deaths have increased 200%. Will work for ammo.

November 10, 2004, 03:12 PM	#17
cagedruss Junior Member Join Date: October 24, 2004 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 14	Came across this site last night trying to sleep. I am not all that happy with the trigger pull with my 9VE either. If the damn thing did not shoot so good, I would have given up on the thing. I did already change out the trigger spring with a replacement I found at a local hardware store. Perfect fit and it did help a little with the tension of the intitial pull. I am going to order the complete spring kit to drop the pull to 3.5lbs, factory is 4.75lbs. I purchased my 9VE for under $300 new 2 months ago, so I feel I can invest a few dollars into it to make it perfect. sping & guide rod upgrades __________________ Styer M40 & SW9VE user, Racer and QA1 and Carrera dealer

November 25, 2004, 04:34 AM	#19
jbkalla Member Join Date: November 8, 2004 Location: Colorado Posts: 33	I've only shot my P229. Is there any advantage to the Sigma? I'm a new shooter and am curious. It took me a long time to decide between the two. With the Hogue grips, my P229 fits perfect in my hand. __________________ SiG P229 .40

November 25, 2004, 08:01 PM	#20
denfoote Senior Member Join Date: November 12, 1999 Location: Buckeye Arizona Posts: 5,526	Hey Hawg!!! That SW9F sticks out, don't it???? Nice collection!! I'm think'in of gett'in another one!!! CDNN has 'em for $250 or so!! Now, just gotta convince the wife!! __________________ Ich bin kein Nationalsozialist!!!!!! Ich bin Republikaner!!!!!!!! Neca eos omnes. Deus suos agnoset. Arizona: Flush the Johns!!!

November 25, 2004, 10:36 PM	#21
Hawgleg44 Senior Member Join Date: June 19, 2004 Location: People's Republic of Massachusetts Posts: 440	I've only shot my P229. Is there any advantage to the Sigma? I'm a new shooter and am curious. It took me a long time to decide between the two. With the Hogue grips, my P229 fits perfect in my hand. They are both excellent pistols with excellent reputations. I had a DAO P229 in .40S&W, but I traded it away. I love S&W DAO's since the hammer is cocked half way by the slide, but Sig's DAO trigger pull is WAY too long. If your Sig fits your hand and you hit well with it, I wouldn't change a thing. Probably the best thing to do is to save up and buy a Sigma, too! I love the Sigmas, but they are by no means the only handguns I own. All my others are S&W K and N-frame revolvers, S&W 3rd Generation autos in 9mm and .45, a Kahr MK40, an old Colt Police Positive and a Ruger Super Single Six. I've owned Berettas and Sigs before, but they just weren't for me. That SW9F sticks out, don't it???? Nice collection!! Yeah, it sure does. I had one just like it before, except a little worn, but the frame cracked on it, just like most of the older, pre-equipment rail guns do after a while. That's why I have the SW9VE now. I did a trade deal for an older Colt AR upper for the 9F and some mags last week. I had a 40F, but I had to turn it in when I left the PD here in town to move on to another LE position. They don't allow you to buy your duty gun since it's a very small dept and they have to pass it on to the new guy taking your place. A guy on the PD now has an SW40VE with a black slide (I thought they were all bead blasted SS) that he wants me to buy from him. We'll see what he wants for it. Thanks for the compliment on the collection. I play around with leather work, too, and they are laid out on a nice Bison hide I picked up. It's too soft for a holster, so I'm still trying to figure out what to make out of it. I'm thinking about making some zippered gun rugs with sheep skin on the inside. __________________ Results of the 1998 Massachusetts gun laws: It is important to keep in mind the ISP reports show that firearm related homicides decreased 56% from 1994 to 1998. From 1998 to 2002, firearm related homicides increased 48%. During the same time, firearm related accidental deaths have increased 200%. Will work for ammo.

November 26, 2004, 08:14 AM	#23
Hawgleg44 Senior Member Join Date: June 19, 2004 Location: People's Republic of Massachusetts Posts: 440	I guess we can let it slide :') It looks good. After shooting my friends P226, I felt I probably should have sent my P229 back to Sig to have it converted to TDA. I'll bet I would have liked it then. Live and learn I guess. Those are the same grips my friend put on his. __________________ Results of the 1998 Massachusetts gun laws: It is important to keep in mind the ISP reports show that firearm related homicides decreased 56% from 1994 to 1998. From 1998 to 2002, firearm related homicides increased 48%. During the same time, firearm related accidental deaths have increased 200%. Will work for ammo.

February 4, 2005, 04:16 AM	#24
zappadragon Senior Member Join Date: January 10, 2005 Location: Virginia Beach , Va. Posts: 248	Hawgleg44 let me know if you ever want to sell the SW9VE __________________ ==================== Bersa 380 \| S&W 317 \| S&W 642 \| Walther P22 \| Firestorm FS22 \| Ruger GP 100 4'' SS ====================

February 4, 2005, 08:18 AM	#25
357SIG Senior Member Join Date: January 19, 2005 Posts: 137	Magazines Yeah, that's a lot of magazines. You mean you have MORE for your AK ? C'mon! Let's see them!!!

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