Hog Bullets - Page 2

Double Naught Spy · March 19, 2018, 12:32 AM

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A wild boar isn't considered a game animal. It's an invasive pest. You are basically doing an extermination, not a hunt. So you are not constrained by game hunting laws.

You sound like the funny guy who commented on some of my hog hunting videos, proclaiming I was not a hunter, but an exterminator. I am sure it was meant as a put down, but the alternate title works for me.

Last I checked, the reason for putting down the animal does not affect whether you are hunting or not. I use the same techniques and tactics used by deer hunters, predator hunters, elk hunters, etc. for hunting hogs. I have a hunting license. Hunting laws pertain to my hunting of hogs. I am a hunter, LOL, by law. I don't have an exterminator's license, however.

In fact, I don't know of a single state with feral hogs that doesn't have hunting laws pertaining to their procurement. Some states have seasons. Some states have tag restrictions. Many states may have less restrictive laws than they have for other animals, but they still have

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Convert your 223 to a 6.8 SPC and use 120 grain SST. Hit them in the center of the neck=D.R.T.

If you can hit them in the center of the neck, .223 will work just fine. The problem is that so many folks can't hit in the center of the neck.

GeauxTide · March 21, 2018, 11:56 AM

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The problem is that so many folks can hit in the center of the neck.

I'm sure you meant CAN'T hit the center of the neck.

Double Naught Spy · March 21, 2018, 01:09 PM

Oops, yep. And they can't, not intentionally or repeatably.

A lot of things will work under ideal circumstances, but are much less effective or are ineffective under circumstances that are not ideal.

zipspyder · March 21, 2018, 01:17 PM

Shot this week. Ruger American 7mm-08 and 140gr Remington Core-lokts. Pass through and got both lungs plus top of heart. Stumbled about 20 yards and fell dead. Butcher said clean kill, not much meat damaged at all. My guide said he hates seeing these guys come up and use 223 AR's, not because it doesn't kill but if they don't hit them right in the boiler room it's a long time tracking. While we were scouting we found a boar that was shot the previous week to far forward with one in the leg/neck area frozen solid and a waste of a pig.

Don Fischer · March 21, 2018, 01:43 PM

I saw that happen a lot with deer and my 25-06 with 117gr bullet's. I went to them because 100 gr bullet's were dropping them right there but really making a mess inside. Much happier with the 117gr bullet's. The majority go a short way but not far. Most get hit, walk in a circle them lay down dead.

Sounds to me like the bullet is working well!

Saltydog235 · March 24, 2018, 10:29 PM

If the vermin is dead, it’s not wasted nor did the bullet fail to perform. Hogs are NOT game animals, they’re a pestilence and need to be eradicated by any means necessary. I’ve said this a dozen times on here, I’d shoot a hog in the ass with a B.B. gun if I thought it would get gangrene and die. Shoot the big ones with whatever you got and bash the little ones heads in with a stick or against a tree. They are a cancer and detriment to your native species of wildlife. They’ll eat your turkey, quail and other ground nesting birds eggs and kill and eat any young they find. They’ll ruin forests and farms alike. Dead pigs no matter how they get that way are the only good pigs.

Double Naught Spy · March 24, 2018, 11:59 PM

Actually, a game animal is any animal hunted for sport or food. Hogs are a game animal. Many states have reduced regulations for hunting them as they are non-native. In some states, they are considered game and/or wildlife, such as Florida and California.

For zipspyder's guide, they are a game animal. For you and me, they are a pest. Some guides get to work it both ways, dealing with the hogs as pests via the landowner perspective and as game via the client perspective.

Don Fischer · March 25, 2018, 10:49 AM

Game animal or not, they deserve a quick death. Either that or simply don't shoot them! While stationed in Germany I helped kill a couple hogs our landlord raised. Guy came out to kill and butcher them. The first one he got between his legs and actually popped it in the head with a hammer, went right down. The second time he came out he brought a tool he pressed to the hogs head and fired. 22 blank drove a rod into it's head, just fell down. Some of the things I read about killing pest's and that includes hog's drive me nut's. I don't care what it is if your going to kill it it deserves a decent death. I've only hunted hogs one time, never saw one but took my 6.5x55 with 140gr bullet's, I'm certain I was well armed. I've eaten them several different time's and they are great eating. I'm told by the local rancher's if they are up around 200 lbs, just leave them lay, bad meat. But under that they are good eating. Oregon won't let rancher's sell hunting for them. Sad as I think they'd get a lot more killed that way. None of the rancher's around here want them! God forbid they should make a few bucks selling them. Much better to wait for the state to fly over hunting them.

March 21, 2018, 01:09 PM	#28
Double Naught Spy Senior Member Join Date: January 8, 2001 Location: Forestburg, Montague Cnty, TX Posts: 12,717	Oops, yep. And they can't, not intentionally or repeatably. A lot of things will work under ideal circumstances, but are much less effective or are ineffective under circumstances that are not ideal. __________________ "If you look through your scope and see your shoe, aim higher." -- said to me by my 11 year old daughter before going out for hogs 8/13/2011 My Hunting Videos https://www.youtube.com/user/HornHillRange

March 21, 2018, 01:17 PM	#29
zipspyder Junior member Join Date: June 13, 2017 Posts: 429	Shot this week. Ruger American 7mm-08 and 140gr Remington Core-lokts. Pass through and got both lungs plus top of heart. Stumbled about 20 yards and fell dead. Butcher said clean kill, not much meat damaged at all. My guide said he hates seeing these guys come up and use 223 AR's, not because it doesn't kill but if they don't hit them right in the boiler room it's a long time tracking. While we were scouting we found a boar that was shot the previous week to far forward with one in the leg/neck area frozen solid and a waste of a pig. Last edited by zipspyder; March 21, 2018 at 03:19 PM.

March 24, 2018, 11:59 PM	#32
Double Naught Spy Senior Member Join Date: January 8, 2001 Location: Forestburg, Montague Cnty, TX Posts: 12,717	Actually, a game animal is any animal hunted for sport or food. Hogs are a game animal. Many states have reduced regulations for hunting them as they are non-native. In some states, they are considered game and/or wildlife, such as Florida and California. For zipspyder's guide, they are a game animal. For you and me, they are a pest. Some guides get to work it both ways, dealing with the hogs as pests via the landowner perspective and as game via the client perspective. __________________ "If you look through your scope and see your shoe, aim higher." -- said to me by my 11 year old daughter before going out for hogs 8/13/2011 My Hunting Videos https://www.youtube.com/user/HornHillRange

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March 21, 2018, 01:43 PM	#30
Don Fischer Senior Member Join Date: March 2, 2017 Posts: 1,868	I saw that happen a lot with deer and my 25-06 with 117gr bullet's. I went to them because 100 gr bullet's were dropping them right there but really making a mess inside. Much happier with the 117gr bullet's. The majority go a short way but not far. Most get hit, walk in a circle them lay down dead. Sounds to me like the bullet is working well!

March 24, 2018, 10:29 PM	#31
Saltydog235 Senior Member Join Date: October 20, 2010 Location: Pawleys Island Posts: 1,563	If the vermin is dead, it’s not wasted nor did the bullet fail to perform. Hogs are NOT game animals, they’re a pestilence and need to be eradicated by any means necessary. I’ve said this a dozen times on here, I’d shoot a hog in the ass with a B.B. gun if I thought it would get gangrene and die. Shoot the big ones with whatever you got and bash the little ones heads in with a stick or against a tree. They are a cancer and detriment to your native species of wildlife. They’ll eat your turkey, quail and other ground nesting birds eggs and kill and eat any young they find. They’ll ruin forests and farms alike. Dead pigs no matter how they get that way are the only good pigs.

March 25, 2018, 10:49 AM	#33
Don Fischer Senior Member Join Date: March 2, 2017 Posts: 1,868	Game animal or not, they deserve a quick death. Either that or simply don't shoot them! While stationed in Germany I helped kill a couple hogs our landlord raised. Guy came out to kill and butcher them. The first one he got between his legs and actually popped it in the head with a hammer, went right down. The second time he came out he brought a tool he pressed to the hogs head and fired. 22 blank drove a rod into it's head, just fell down. Some of the things I read about killing pest's and that includes hog's drive me nut's. I don't care what it is if your going to kill it it deserves a decent death. I've only hunted hogs one time, never saw one but took my 6.5x55 with 140gr bullet's, I'm certain I was well armed. I've eaten them several different time's and they are great eating. I'm told by the local rancher's if they are up around 200 lbs, just leave them lay, bad meat. But under that they are good eating. Oregon won't let rancher's sell hunting for them. Sad as I think they'd get a lot more killed that way. None of the rancher's around here want them! God forbid they should make a few bucks selling them. Much better to wait for the state to fly over hunting them.