Advice needed on Win Md 12 20ga vent skeet gun.

bravastar1 · October 17, 2008, 08:17 PM

I ran across a beautiful Md 12 at lunch today. It is a 1959 production Md 12 20 ga with a vent rib and a WS-1 choke. UNFORTUNATELY the stock has been cut for a kid and a pad added. Also there is a Poly-Choke(deluxe) on the barrrel. The bluing is perfect and the forearm is perfect. The wood is very nicely figured(fiddleback) with few if any dings. Would this have been a factory rib? It is not marked. I would have guessed it as a Simmons but again it is NOT marked. Can anyone take a guess to a value this gun may have? I am thinking about picking it up for my Son to use for birds and Skeet shooting. I can buy it for $400.

zippy13 · October 17, 2008, 10:41 PM

In a tread on a M-12 20 gauge from last March, one contributor opined: "You can't touch a m-12 20 gauge with any style rib for under $1000.00."
It makes $400 sounds like a steal.
Does the rib continue over the receiver?

bravastar1 · October 17, 2008, 11:32 PM

yes the rib is over the receicer. It is NOT a duckbill type. I think I will get it tomorrow if it is still there. Thanks.

zippy13 · October 18, 2008, 02:31 AM

Howz 'bout posting some pics when you get it home...

bravastar1 · October 18, 2008, 07:50 AM

Zippy-Even having a CUT barrel and a Poly-Choke And a cut stock,do you still think it is worth the $400 asking price? With tax its will run me $432 OTD

ebutler462 · October 18, 2008, 10:58 AM

Still worth the price. If I bought it, I would immediately send the barrel to Polychoke anyway for their Deluxe model. You already have the Poly installed. You will have a vey versatile gun for anyhting you need a gun for. No gun goes into my safe without a Poly. The cut-off stock is probably why you are getting a good price. If you are going to use it in the field, looks don't matter.

Believe me, you will love the Poly.

zippy13 · October 18, 2008, 01:15 PM

I'm sure you've been checking the M 12 listings, field guns in poorer condition are asking much more than $400. The one you're looking at sounds like a fancy, if not a competition grade. You mentioned the stock had been cut, but not the barrel. Just how short is barrel, it it proportional to a youth gun? Eventually, you can always add to the stock, but the barrel's a different story. I'd rather have a fancy stock with a busy butt than a full length Plain Jane piece of wood.

To me, the big question would be, does the gun fit your son? What else can you get for the same money? I just googled a listing asking $415 for a used 870 Wingmaster youth gun with an 18 1/2-in barrel and a 12-in LOP. The same list has a M12 20-gauge skeet with Simmons rib asking $2,095.

bravastar1 · October 18, 2008, 07:38 PM

I bought it today. Poly-Choke and all. I figured the most I could waste was $400. Here she is.

Dave McC · October 19, 2008, 07:14 AM

Ya did good. Enjoy....

zippy13 · October 19, 2008, 08:41 AM

"Ya did good. Enjoy...."

+1 Do you feel a little guilty for "stealing" that M-12?

October 17, 2008, 08:17 PM	#1
bravastar1 Member Join Date: July 8, 2006 Posts: 27	Advice needed on Win Md 12 20ga vent skeet gun.PICS ADDED I ran across a beautiful Md 12 at lunch today. It is a 1959 production Md 12 20 ga with a vent rib and a WS-1 choke. UNFORTUNATELY the stock has been cut for a kid and a pad added. Also there is a Poly-Choke(deluxe) on the barrrel. The bluing is perfect and the forearm is perfect. The wood is very nicely figured(fiddleback) with few if any dings. Would this have been a factory rib? It is not marked. I would have guessed it as a Simmons but again it is NOT marked. Can anyone take a guess to a value this gun may have? I am thinking about picking it up for my Son to use for birds and Skeet shooting. I can buy it for $400. Last edited by bravastar1; October 18, 2008 at 07:38 PM.

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October 17, 2008, 10:41 PM	#2
zippy13 Senior Member Join Date: August 23, 2008 Location: SoCal Posts: 6,442	In a tread on a M-12 20 gauge from last March, one contributor opined: "You can't touch a m-12 20 gauge with any style rib for under $1000.00." It makes $400 sounds like a steal. Does the rib continue over the receiver?

October 17, 2008, 11:32 PM	#3
bravastar1 Member Join Date: July 8, 2006 Posts: 27	yes the rib is over the receicer. It is NOT a duckbill type. I think I will get it tomorrow if it is still there. Thanks.

October 18, 2008, 02:31 AM	#4
zippy13 Senior Member Join Date: August 23, 2008 Location: SoCal Posts: 6,442	Howz 'bout posting some pics when you get it home...

October 18, 2008, 07:50 AM	#5
bravastar1 Member Join Date: July 8, 2006 Posts: 27	Zippy-Even having a CUT barrel and a Poly-Choke And a cut stock,do you still think it is worth the $400 asking price? With tax its will run me $432 OTD

October 18, 2008, 10:58 AM	#6
ebutler462 Senior Member Join Date: March 16, 2007 Location: NC Posts: 437	Still worth the price. If I bought it, I would immediately send the barrel to Polychoke anyway for their Deluxe model. You already have the Poly installed. You will have a vey versatile gun for anyhting you need a gun for. No gun goes into my safe without a Poly. The cut-off stock is probably why you are getting a good price. If you are going to use it in the field, looks don't matter. Believe me, you will love the Poly.

October 18, 2008, 01:15 PM	#7
zippy13 Senior Member Join Date: August 23, 2008 Location: SoCal Posts: 6,442	I'm sure you've been checking the M 12 listings, field guns in poorer condition are asking much more than $400. The one you're looking at sounds like a fancy, if not a competition grade. You mentioned the stock had been cut, but not the barrel. Just how short is barrel, it it proportional to a youth gun? Eventually, you can always add to the stock, but the barrel's a different story. I'd rather have a fancy stock with a busy butt than a full length Plain Jane piece of wood. To me, the big question would be, does the gun fit your son? What else can you get for the same money? I just googled a listing asking $415 for a used 870 Wingmaster youth gun with an 18 1/2-in barrel and a 12-in LOP. The same list has a M12 20-gauge skeet with Simmons rib asking $2,095.

October 18, 2008, 07:38 PM	#8
bravastar1 Member Join Date: July 8, 2006 Posts: 27	I bought it today. Poly-Choke and all. I figured the most I could waste was $400. Here she is.

October 19, 2008, 07:14 AM	#9
Dave McC Staff In Memoriam Join Date: October 13, 1999 Location: Columbia, Md, USA Posts: 8,811	Ya did good. Enjoy....

October 19, 2008, 08:41 AM	#10
zippy13 Senior Member Join Date: August 23, 2008 Location: SoCal Posts: 6,442	"Ya did good. Enjoy...." +1 Do you feel a little guilty for "stealing" that M-12?