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Old April 23, 2019, 09:19 PM   #8001
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Looking at 19-4 4” 19 appears to be 90% condition but no box or anything else. I have seen old threads of value but seem to be going up. They are asking $899. What do you think of price and the serial # is 56k1xx. What year would this make it? Thanks for any help
56K prefix dates it to 1979.
The ones going for big dollars are closer to 98/99% and have the original box/paperwork.
A 4” dash 4 in 90% would be about $600 tops. But, what you consider 90% might be a lot different then me.

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Edit: after seeing the picture you posted on the other thread it’s a lot better than 90%. That said, 899 is still about 200 too much.

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Old May 6, 2019, 03:36 PM   #8002
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Hello everyone, I was hoping to put a date on my new to me S&W model 12 no dash. Serial number C437XXX.
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Old May 6, 2019, 11:26 PM   #8003
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Gun appears to be a Pre Mod 27. No model number inside crane, just 61826 with possibly a B underneath that. Number on bottom of grip frame and on cylinder is 150XXX. Can you tell me what the correct model is as well as date? Thanks for your help.
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Old May 7, 2019, 06:53 PM   #8004
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S&W model 12 no dash. Serial number C437XXX
1960.
Serial numbers ran from C429741 to C474148 that year.

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I'm assuming there is an "S" prefix with that serial number. S150xxx would be 1956. If it is chambered in 357 magnum it could be a pre 27 (Model 357 Magnum) or a pre 28 (Highway Patrolman). If it is a Highway Patrolman it would be rollmarked as such on the barrel.

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Old May 7, 2019, 07:52 PM   #8005
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Yes, full number is S 150XXX and it is a 357 magnum. Appears to be a pre 27 with 3 inch barrel. Has the checkering on top. Trigger, hammer and sights are nickel along with the gun. Does that mean it has been replated?
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Old May 7, 2019, 08:06 PM   #8006
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Trigger, hammer and sights are nickel along with the gun. Does that mean it has been replated?
Yes. S&W did not plate those parts.

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Old May 7, 2019, 08:11 PM   #8007
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Thanks Jim for the info. Really appreciated. Are the color heat treated replacement hammers or triggers available? I don't recall ever seeing any listed on GB or elsewhere.
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Old May 8, 2019, 03:20 PM   #8008
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Thanks Jim for looking up my model 12 from 1960.
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Old May 10, 2019, 11:13 PM   #8009
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I was wondering if you could help me with a k22 22lr numbers (k. 129***)
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Old May 11, 2019, 11:40 AM   #8010
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I was wondering if you could help me with a k22 22lr numbers (k. 129***)
1951.
Serial numbers ran from K104048 to K136690 that year.

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Old May 22, 2019, 10:36 AM   #8011
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A friend who knows nothing about guns gave me a S&W K-Frame .38 Spl to check out for him. When I got it home, I saw that it was a pre-M-10 with a 4 inch barrel and retaining 90%+ bluing. The s/n is 924935.
Can you tell me when this revolver was made?

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Old May 22, 2019, 03:24 PM   #8012
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A friend who knows nothing about guns gave me a S&W K-Frame .38 Spl to check out for him. When I got it home, I saw that it was a pre-M-10 with a 4 inch barrel and retaining 90%+ bluing. The s/n is 924935.
Can you tell me when this revolver was made?

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S&W switched to numbered models in 1957, so that gun is older than that.
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Old May 22, 2019, 05:18 PM   #8013
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I'm assisting a friend who's father passed and left his collection. In the collection are 4 Smith & Wessons that don't have a model number stamped on the frame inside the cylinder crane. Hopefully someone here can help us identify. Serials are

171195
K170030
S180658
K250536

Thank you very much!
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Old May 23, 2019, 02:30 PM   #8014
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A friend who knows nothing about guns gave me a S&W K-Frame .38 Spl to check out for him. When I got it home, I saw that it was a pre-M-10 with a 4 inch barrel and retaining 90%+ bluing. The s/n is 924935.
Can you tell me when this revolver was made?

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924935 would be 1941/42. If there is a “S” prefix (S924935)it would be 1948.

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Old May 23, 2019, 02:48 PM   #8015
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I'm assisting a friend who's father passed and left his collection. In the collection are 4 Smith & Wessons that don't have a model number stamped on the frame inside the cylinder crane. Hopefully someone here can help us identify. Serials are

171195
K170030
S180658
K250536

Thank you very much!
K170030 would be a K frame revolver made in 1951. K250536 would be the same and made in 1955. They were offered in three calibers, 22lr, 32 long or 38 special. The model would be K- caliber (K-22, K-32 or K-38)

S180658 would be an N frame revolver made in 1958. It was offered in several calibers. I would need to know the caliber to give you a model name. What is the chambering stamped on the side of the barrel?

171195 was used on numerous models over as many years. I would need more info on the gun. Is it a modern swing out cylinder like the others? 5 or 6 shot? What is the chambering stamped on the side of the barrel and about how long is the barrel?

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Old May 23, 2019, 03:28 PM   #8016
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K170030 would be a K frame revolver made in 1951. K250536 would be the same and made in 1955. They were offered in three calibers, 22lr, 32 long or 38 special. The model would be K- caliber (K-22, K-32 or K-38)

S180658 would be an N frame revolver made in 1958. It was offered in several calibers. I would need to know the caliber to give you a model name. What is the chambering stamped on the side of the barrel?

171195 was used on numerous models over as many years. I would need more info on the gun. Is it a modern swing out cylinder like the others? 5 or 6 shot? What is the chambering stamped on the side of the barrel and about how long is the barrel?

Jim
Thank you for the reply laytonj1.

171195 is a .44 Mag, blue, 6" barrel, swing out cylinder, 6 shot
S180658 is another .44 Mag, 6" barrel, swing out cylinder, 6 shot
K170030 is a .22LR, 4 " barrel that has a matching gold box
K250536 all I have at this point is that it is .22LR

Thanks again for your help.
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Old May 23, 2019, 05:13 PM   #8017
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Thank you for the reply laytonj1.

171195 is a .44 Mag, blue, 6" barrel, swing out cylinder, 6 shot
S180658 is another .44 Mag, 6" barrel, swing out cylinder, 6 shot
K170030 is a .22LR, 4 " barrel that has a matching gold box
K250536 all I have at this point is that it is .22LR

Thanks again for your help.
So they apparently left the “S” prefix off the 171195. S171195 dates it to 1957. As with the other 44, they were officially known as a model NT-430 but became the model 29 when S&W began stamping model numbers around serial number S184000.
The other two are model K-22’s which became model 17’s (6” barrel) and model 18 (4”barrel) when model number stamping began.
Depending on condition, those NT-430 44’s are worth some good money.

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Old May 24, 2019, 10:27 AM   #8018
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So they apparently left the “S” prefix off the 171195. S171195 dates it to 1957. As with the other 44, they were officially known as a model NT-430 but became the model 29 when S&W began stamping model numbers around serial number S184000.
The other two are model K-22’s which became model 17’s (6” barrel) and model 18 (4”barrel) when model number stamping began.
Depending on condition, those NT-430 44’s are worth some good money.

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Thank you very much Jim!
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Old May 25, 2019, 10:14 AM   #8019
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Model 36 no dash 601xxx Thank you Charlie
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Old May 25, 2019, 11:00 PM   #8020
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Model 36 no dash 601xxx Thank you Charlie
Serial number 295000 was in 1962 and 786000 was in 1969. So, 1966 or 67.

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Old May 27, 2019, 01:51 PM   #8021
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Would someone be kind enough to help me? I have a M10-5, sn is C722xxx

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Old May 28, 2019, 11:26 AM   #8022
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Would someone be kind enough to help me? I have a M10-5, sn is C722xxx

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Serial numbers ran from C622700 in 1963 to C810532 in 1965. So, 1964 looks like a safe bet.

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Old May 29, 2019, 05:56 AM   #8023
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Hey, Model 65 with SN ACN0020. Anyone know that one?

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Old May 29, 2019, 08:53 PM   #8024
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Hey, Model 65 with SN ACN0020. Anyone know that one?

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Old May 30, 2019, 08:07 AM   #8025
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