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Old October 14, 2020, 08:37 AM   #1
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So where are all the home defense shotguns?

I know gun sales have shot through the roof, but dang, Mossberg 590a1's are going for $1000+ on gunbroker.com. I'm assuming Mossberg, and other companies, are working at full capacity to address demand but even my favorite LGS doesn't have any home defense shotguns available, and they're usually well stocked on other firearms. They only have hunting/sporting shotguns for sale and while I understand that those, too, can be used for home defense, they're not my cup of tea. What about the Winchester SXP? Who else makes home defense shotguns with an 18" barrel?
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Old October 14, 2020, 08:40 AM   #2
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Why do you assume they are working at full capacity? Some states still have lockdowns going on. Secondly, supply chains have been disrupted causing massive shortages of raw materials.

You can buy any pump gun from Mossberg or Remington and find an 18" barrel afterwards at most pawn shops.
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Old October 14, 2020, 11:50 AM   #3
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Why do you assume they are working at full capacity? Some states still have lockdowns going on. Secondly, supply chains have been disrupted causing massive shortages of raw materials.

You can buy any pump gun from Mossberg or Remington and find an 18" barrel afterwards at most pawn shops.
Exactly. Mossberg and Magpul are understaffed. Mossberg especially. Their production line is hit hard. We'll see the end results in months to come.

Magpul is doing everything it can to accommodate for shifts and replenish out of stock items. But, then again, Magpul has it easier as far as manufacturing.
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Old October 14, 2020, 12:41 PM   #4
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US has a steel import ban. I hope this doesn't get flagged because it relates to Trump because it's true...https://www.whitehouse.gov/president...states-082920/

Mexico semi assembled Maverick 88s (Mossberg owned) are more available for this reason.

No. For 2 months I've looked for a mossberg 930 or 500 in 12ga. Simply do not exist. When they do, they go quick for 300 above normal worth. There is only one option for a 500 on gun.deals. It's a synthetic, 28"--the cheapest option for a 500 normally priced at $260. It is going for $500. Crazy.

Remington rifles were shut down for covid and Chapter 11.

You can find barrels, you can't find the actual 870 or 500 right now.

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Old October 14, 2020, 01:57 PM   #5
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Old October 14, 2020, 05:40 PM   #6
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US has a steel import ban. I hope this doesn't get flagged because it relates to Trump because it's true...https://www.whitehouse.gov/president...states-082920/
The contents of the link say nothing about a ban.

1. It's not a ban, it's a tariff.
2. It doesn't apply to all countries.
3. The U.S. steel supply is not in danger, the restriction was due, in fact, overproduction throughout the world which created a glut/plummeting prices.
4. Since the restrictions went into effect, domestic suppliers have increased production--in 2019, domestic steel production was the highest in over a decade.

All that aside, U.S. steel production, not surprisingly dropped in early 2020 and has been lower than usual since, although it has recovered significantly, starting in July.
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Old October 14, 2020, 06:01 PM   #8
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No need. The longer barrel can be sold to offset the cost of the new short one
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Old October 14, 2020, 06:19 PM   #9
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True about lockdowns, but I figured since gun stores are considered essential that gun manufacturers would likewise be essential and running at full capacity.

Either way, I’m just gonna wait to get the 590a1
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Old October 14, 2020, 09:22 PM   #10
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Just buy a short barrel for your current gun, midway has quite a few in stock and lets you backorder most others, lots of short barrels out there if you just look. I have 4 barrels for my 20 gauge 870 including a 21".
https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1003745217?pid=366756
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Old October 17, 2020, 02:48 PM   #11
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Although they are not the A1 model, I’ve seen several 590s #50778 go through the LGS, so they are available.

The SXPs seem harder to find around here. Not many shops carry Winchester regularly it seems. Cabela’s seems to have them (the base Defender model) available as order to store about every 3 weeks, but you have to check regularly and move quickly when they are available. In the SXP, though, I wanted a replaceable choke and just haven’t seen those in a 24” or less barrel length, much less 20” or less. The SXPs are also made in Turkey, so I am not sure how that supply chain is affected.
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