.44mag question - Page 2

GeauxTide · May 28, 2013, 08:21 PM

What experience do you have with large caliber, heavy recoiling revolvers? For large bears, 300gr bullets at 1200fps is the minimum. If little to none, a 12ga pump with Brenneke slugs is a better choice.

Bob Wright · May 28, 2013, 08:23 PM

Well, the original post didn't specify what type of revolver, just a .44 Magnum, for the possibility of having to defend himself against a disturbed beer.

I countered with the .45 Colt in a Ruger. I love the .44 Magnum cartridge in both Smiths and Rugers, though at my age I am leaning towards the single action sixgun. But from my experience, while the .44 Magnum beats everything else all hollow (except certain wildcats in custom sixguns) for long range performance, the old .45 Colt, loaded heavily as I stated, is just the ticket for up-close-in-your-face smashing power.

And as I assumed from the original post, he wanted something more portable than a shoulder/chest carry rig.

So I'll make no amendments to my original statements.

Bob Wright

newfrontier45 · May 28, 2013, 08:41 PM

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If little to none, a 12ga pump with Brenneke slugs is a better choice.

Not really but it doesn't keep people from believing it. Lots of myth and legend surrounding shotgun slugs.

Deaf Smith · May 28, 2013, 10:38 PM

Don't worry about shotgun penetration with such as Black Magic or Dixie Slugs (neither of these are old foster type slugs.)

In the 'Bone box'...

http://www.shotgunworld.com/bbs/view...1eaafac583f141

The Dixie slugs (730 grains!) penetrated 29 inches of wetpack. 416 Rigby round with a 400 grain Partition penetrated 30 inches.

http://www.shootersforum.com/handgun...tion-test.html

Yes the 500 Linebaugh 525 grain Buffalo Bore load at 1097 fps penetrated 50 inches but... bear are not Cape Buffalo.

29 inches is over 2 feet and they included 'bone' in their box test.

Any frontal shot of a bear will connect with either head or shoulders.

No idea about Black Magjic slugs but 600gr at 1500 (true velocity) with hardened slug won't be no foster slug!

And Bernanke makes a 'special forces' AP slug to if you want more!

Oh, and they all kick like the dickens (but so does the .500.)

Deaf

SgtLumpy · May 30, 2013, 12:51 AM

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...44 Magnum, for the possibility of having to defend himself against a disturbed beer.

Not exactly what I figured when I heard of those Frat boys "shooting beers".

Sgt Lumpy

May 28, 2013, 08:21 PM	#26
GeauxTide Senior Member Join Date: April 20, 2009 Location: Helena, AL Posts: 4,424	Question What experience do you have with large caliber, heavy recoiling revolvers? For large bears, 300gr bullets at 1200fps is the minimum. If little to none, a 12ga pump with Brenneke slugs is a better choice.

May 28, 2013, 10:38 PM	#29
Deaf Smith Senior Member Join Date: October 31, 2000 Location: Texican! Posts: 4,453	Don't worry about shotgun penetration with such as Black Magic or Dixie Slugs (neither of these are old foster type slugs.) In the 'Bone box'... http://www.shotgunworld.com/bbs/view...1eaafac583f141 The Dixie slugs (730 grains!) penetrated 29 inches of wetpack. 416 Rigby round with a 400 grain Partition penetrated 30 inches. http://www.shootersforum.com/handgun...tion-test.html Yes the 500 Linebaugh 525 grain Buffalo Bore load at 1097 fps penetrated 50 inches but... bear are not Cape Buffalo. 29 inches is over 2 feet and they included 'bone' in their box test. Any frontal shot of a bear will connect with either head or shoulders. No idea about Black Magjic slugs but 600gr at 1500 (true velocity) with hardened slug won't be no foster slug! And Bernanke makes a 'special forces' AP slug to if you want more! Oh, and they all kick like the dickens (but so does the .500.) Deaf __________________ “To you who call yourselves ‘men of peace,’ I say, you are not safe without men of action by your side” Thucydides

May 28, 2013, 08:23 PM	#27
Bob Wright Senior Member Join Date: July 10, 2012 Location: Memphis, Tennessee Posts: 2,989	Well, the original post didn't specify what type of revolver, just a .44 Magnum, for the possibility of having to defend himself against a disturbed beer. I countered with the .45 Colt in a Ruger. I love the .44 Magnum cartridge in both Smiths and Rugers, though at my age I am leaning towards the single action sixgun. But from my experience, while the .44 Magnum beats everything else all hollow (except certain wildcats in custom sixguns) for long range performance, the old .45 Colt, loaded heavily as I stated, is just the ticket for up-close-in-your-face smashing power. And as I assumed from the original post, he wanted something more portable than a shoulder/chest carry rig. So I'll make no amendments to my original statements. Bob Wright