Horizontal mag pouch

led0321 · December 2, 2014, 08:51 AM

Mods sorry if this is the wrong location.

Does anyone have a recommendation for one? I need one for a Glock 23 mag.

Thanks

agtman · December 2, 2014, 09:14 AM

Wouldn't recommend one. Horizontal magazine pouches are an attempt to reduce printing for those with an overly-expanded waist line.

On guys whose girth in the chest-to-waist region makes it difficult for them to see their shoes, the typical vertical pouch contributes to the phenomenon in concealed carry known as "printing" - because the pouch is holding the mag up while the body is pushing it out, hardly an aid to concealment. Horizontal pouches, more or less, hold the mag in tighter and more discreetly, roughly parallel with the belt or waist line.
So for big guys it aids concealment.

The downside is that the positioning of a horizontal pouch makes for a slower draw, especially if it uses a retention flap to keep the mag inside, at least as compared to the time it takes to access a spare mag from a vertical pouch during a tactical or speed reload.

led0321 · December 2, 2014, 09:17 AM

I'm 12% body fat so now they we are past that part.....

g.willikers · December 2, 2014, 11:19 AM

It kind of depends on how one's arm and elbow works, too.
If there's something that prevents the arm and elbow from pulling a mag straight up, the horizontal pouch might be helpful.
There's also slanted versions for a compromise solution.
Whatever works is good.
As for a recommendation, there's versions from all the major makers.
Hard to say what you might like the best.
Probably one with an adjustable tension.

AK103K · December 2, 2014, 11:35 AM

Ive been using a Blade Tech single mag pouch with the Tec Loc rotated 90* for about three months now. I carry it at the 11:30 position on my belt (drawing to the left), opposite my 17, at 12:30.

Im about 10 pounds over weight these days, but I dont have a gut. I can see my belt buckle when I look down.

I find the mag is about invisible on my belt, especially against a black belt. I also find its quicker and easier to access than the double vertical pouch I normally use, at around 8:00.

jr24 · December 2, 2014, 01:02 PM

When I use a horizontal mag pouch, I have found I like the Safariland model 123 mag pouch.

Sure they're a little slow on the draw but I'm not terribly worried that I'll need to speed reload for my CCW. Makes concealing a spare mag considerably easier with certain outfits and protects my belly from sharp edged magazine base plates (Hi Power, I'm looking at you).

http://www.midwayusa.com/product/425...-polymer-black

Arizona Smithshooter · December 2, 2014, 05:56 PM

I recently bought a horizontal mag carrier for my 9mm M&P. It's from MagHolder and it works better than I expected. The price was reasonable and the product is well made.

http://magholder.com/

http://shop.magholder.com/main.sc

Captains1911 · December 3, 2014, 10:35 AM

Magholder. Excellent product.

Captains1911 · December 3, 2014, 10:40 AM

Quote:

The downside is that the positioning of a horizontal pouch makes for a slower draw, especially if it uses a retention flap to keep the mag inside, at least as compared to the time it takes to access a spare mag from a vertical pouch during a tactical or speed reload.

The magholder does not have a retention strap, and I have found it to be just a fast as a vertical mag pouch, but much more comfortable and easier to conceal. I'm not fat either...

Arizona Smithshooter · December 3, 2014, 01:23 PM

I find the magholder is actually easier and faster, plus my left index finger automatically is placed on the bullet in the mag for fast insertion into the gun. The magholder has very good retention....have never had a mag fall out in over 3 months of daily use. I am buying one for my M&P 45 as soon as it's available.

led0321 · December 3, 2014, 08:11 PM

I watched some of mag holders videos and I ordered one tonight. That is exactly what I was looking for. Thanks

Captains1911 · December 3, 2014, 09:21 PM

I'm right handed, and found that it works best for me just right of center, around 1:00. Try it in a few different positions to see what works best for you. I also probably should have mentioned earlier, but use coupon code "gundudes" for a little savings.

BillG174 · December 3, 2014, 10:57 PM

I recently bought a Safariland 123 horizontal mag holder for my Glock 14 Gen 4 mag and I like it although it has a Velcro retention flap. It is black leather and doesn't look like a mag holder when I wear it and the mag does not show. I would consider buying the Magholder as I think it is a good product and it doesn't have a retention flap. I am concerned that some of the mag is visible and the holder is made of a black plastic material that people would ask me "what's that on your belt" when wearing a tucked in shirt.

Those previous posters that say it conceals well - please explain why you say this? Thanks.

Captains1911 · December 3, 2014, 11:05 PM

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Those previous posters that say it conceals well - please explain why you say this? Thanks

What I meant was it conceals well, meaning it minimizes printing, when covered by a garmet.

BillG174 · December 3, 2014, 11:18 PM

Captains1911, thanks for the clarification.

led0321 · December 20, 2014, 06:40 AM

Still waiting for delivery but I will report back.

bamaranger · December 23, 2014, 01:25 AM

I carried a double pouch, horizontally on the holster (strong) side for a number of years on a duty belt, as the horizontal arrangement did not gouge my gut or crotch when stooping, kneeling, traversing obstacles, etc. Several guys of my acquaintance did, irregardless of girth. It just limited the vertical depth of clutter on the duty belt.

I switched after loosing a mag from a horizontal pouch one night in the dark. Hung the snap on something in or around the vehicle while loading a deer decoy in the cargo area. The pouch apparently popped open, and in the gyrations of stuffing the deke, 'chute panel and whatever else we were fooling with, the mag came out onto the ground. We were standing around later and one of the guys noticed I'd lost a mag. Went back and there it laid where we loaded the SUV.

Thought to myself, .....I'm sure glad I didn't need that. Moved my cuffs to a more central position, but ahead of the holster, and moved the mag pouch to my left (off side) and vertical. I can jsut reach the mags with either hand. Took a bit of retraining, and for a while I was trying to "load my cuff's", but got past that soon enough.

December 2, 2014, 08:51 AM	#1
led0321 Senior Member Join Date: February 4, 2013 Posts: 135	Horizontal mag pouch Mods sorry if this is the wrong location. Does anyone have a recommendation for one? I need one for a Glock 23 mag. Thanks

December 2, 2014, 09:14 AM	#2
agtman Junior member Join Date: July 26, 2001 Location: midwest Posts: 2,374	Wouldn't recommend one. Horizontal magazine pouches are an attempt to reduce printing for those with an overly-expanded waist line. On guys whose girth in the chest-to-waist region makes it difficult for them to see their shoes, the typical vertical pouch contributes to the phenomenon in concealed carry known as "printing" - because the pouch is holding the mag up while the body is pushing it out, hardly an aid to concealment. Horizontal pouches, more or less, hold the mag in tighter and more discreetly, roughly parallel with the belt or waist line. So for big guys it aids concealment. The downside is that the positioning of a horizontal pouch makes for a slower draw, especially if it uses a retention flap to keep the mag inside, at least as compared to the time it takes to access a spare mag from a vertical pouch during a tactical or speed reload. Last edited by agtman; December 2, 2014 at 09:10 PM.

December 2, 2014, 11:19 AM	#4
g.willikers Senior Member Join Date: September 28, 2008 Posts: 10,442	It kind of depends on how one's arm and elbow works, too. If there's something that prevents the arm and elbow from pulling a mag straight up, the horizontal pouch might be helpful. There's also slanted versions for a compromise solution. Whatever works is good. As for a recommendation, there's versions from all the major makers. Hard to say what you might like the best. Probably one with an adjustable tension. __________________ Walt Kelly, alias Pogo, sez: “Don't take life so serious, son, it ain't nohow permanent.” Last edited by g.willikers; December 2, 2014 at 11:26 AM.

December 3, 2014, 10:57 PM	#13
BillG174 Member Join Date: October 8, 2014 Location: Lenexa, KS (Kansas City Metro) Posts: 46	I recently bought a Safariland 123 horizontal mag holder for my Glock 14 Gen 4 mag and I like it although it has a Velcro retention flap. It is black leather and doesn't look like a mag holder when I wear it and the mag does not show. I would consider buying the Magholder as I think it is a good product and it doesn't have a retention flap. I am concerned that some of the mag is visible and the holder is made of a black plastic material that people would ask me "what's that on your belt" when wearing a tucked in shirt. Those previous posters that say it conceals well - please explain why you say this? Thanks. __________________ Being Armed Is A Mindset, Not A Physical Condition - Rob Pincus Freedom Is Not Free SAF, GOA, Kansas State Rifle Association

December 3, 2014, 11:18 PM	#15
BillG174 Member Join Date: October 8, 2014 Location: Lenexa, KS (Kansas City Metro) Posts: 46	Captains1911, thanks for the clarification. __________________ Being Armed Is A Mindset, Not A Physical Condition - Rob Pincus Freedom Is Not Free SAF, GOA, Kansas State Rifle Association

December 2, 2014, 09:17 AM	#3
led0321 Senior Member Join Date: February 4, 2013 Posts: 135	I'm 12% body fat so now they we are past that part.....

December 2, 2014, 11:35 AM	#5
AK103K Senior Member Join Date: May 1, 2001 Posts: 10,223	Ive been using a Blade Tech single mag pouch with the Tec Loc rotated 90* for about three months now. I carry it at the 11:30 position on my belt (drawing to the left), opposite my 17, at 12:30. Im about 10 pounds over weight these days, but I dont have a gut. I can see my belt buckle when I look down. I find the mag is about invisible on my belt, especially against a black belt. I also find its quicker and easier to access than the double vertical pouch I normally use, at around 8:00.

December 2, 2014, 01:02 PM	#6
jr24 Senior Member Join Date: August 29, 2011 Posts: 870	When I use a horizontal mag pouch, I have found I like the Safariland model 123 mag pouch. Sure they're a little slow on the draw but I'm not terribly worried that I'll need to speed reload for my CCW. Makes concealing a spare mag considerably easier with certain outfits and protects my belly from sharp edged magazine base plates (Hi Power, I'm looking at you). http://www.midwayusa.com/product/425...-polymer-black

December 2, 2014, 05:56 PM	#7
Arizona Smithshooter Senior Member Join Date: August 20, 2011 Location: Western Arizona Posts: 176	I recently bought a horizontal mag carrier for my 9mm M&P. It's from MagHolder and it works better than I expected. The price was reasonable and the product is well made. http://magholder.com/ http://shop.magholder.com/main.sc

December 3, 2014, 10:35 AM	#8
Captains1911 Senior Member Join Date: November 18, 2009 Location: West of the Blue Ridge, VA Posts: 684	Magholder. Excellent product.

December 3, 2014, 01:23 PM	#10
Arizona Smithshooter Senior Member Join Date: August 20, 2011 Location: Western Arizona Posts: 176	I find the magholder is actually easier and faster, plus my left index finger automatically is placed on the bullet in the mag for fast insertion into the gun. The magholder has very good retention....have never had a mag fall out in over 3 months of daily use. I am buying one for my M&P 45 as soon as it's available.

December 3, 2014, 08:11 PM	#11
led0321 Senior Member Join Date: February 4, 2013 Posts: 135	I watched some of mag holders videos and I ordered one tonight. That is exactly what I was looking for. Thanks

December 3, 2014, 09:21 PM	#12
Captains1911 Senior Member Join Date: November 18, 2009 Location: West of the Blue Ridge, VA Posts: 684	I'm right handed, and found that it works best for me just right of center, around 1:00. Try it in a few different positions to see what works best for you. I also probably should have mentioned earlier, but use coupon code "gundudes" for a little savings.

December 20, 2014, 06:40 AM	#16
led0321 Senior Member Join Date: February 4, 2013 Posts: 135	Still waiting for delivery but I will report back.

December 23, 2014, 01:25 AM	#17
bamaranger Senior Member Join Date: October 9, 2009 Location: North Alabama Posts: 8,312	horizontal v. vertical I carried a double pouch, horizontally on the holster (strong) side for a number of years on a duty belt, as the horizontal arrangement did not gouge my gut or crotch when stooping, kneeling, traversing obstacles, etc. Several guys of my acquaintance did, irregardless of girth. It just limited the vertical depth of clutter on the duty belt. I switched after loosing a mag from a horizontal pouch one night in the dark. Hung the snap on something in or around the vehicle while loading a deer decoy in the cargo area. The pouch apparently popped open, and in the gyrations of stuffing the deke, 'chute panel and whatever else we were fooling with, the mag came out onto the ground. We were standing around later and one of the guys noticed I'd lost a mag. Went back and there it laid where we loaded the SUV. Thought to myself, .....I'm sure glad I didn't need that. Moved my cuffs to a more central position, but ahead of the holster, and moved the mag pouch to my left (off side) and vertical. I can jsut reach the mags with either hand. Took a bit of retraining, and for a while I was trying to "load my cuff's", but got past that soon enough.