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Old July 18, 2022, 11:09 PM   #1
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What to do with broken gun?

The slide broke on my gun, it is not made anymore and cannot be replaced. I'll talk with a gunsmith soon but I don't see how welding it would be a good idea for safety concerns.

Should I take the parts off and have it destroyed?
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Old July 18, 2022, 11:35 PM   #2
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You could hope to find one on line, try and find the same make of gun and use it as a parts gun. Contact the company to see if there is any old stock available. If you destroy it, it is gone forever. If you keep it in hopes, you may find the part you may be able to shoot it again some day.
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Old July 19, 2022, 12:34 AM   #3
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"Slide" does not tell us much. What kind of gun?
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Old July 19, 2022, 12:55 AM   #4
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There are gun parts companies that will buy broken guns and sell the parts.

Before you do something like that, maybe you could post what kind of gun you have. Someone might know where you can find a replacement slide, or maybe a replacement gun of the same type. Just because they aren't made any more doesn't necessarily mean no parts are available.
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Old July 19, 2022, 12:57 AM   #5
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Replacement parts are sold on Ebay and several other places. slides are common. We need pictures, or to at least know what gun you have.
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Old July 19, 2022, 04:04 PM   #6
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People have successfully taken demilled 1911 slides, welded them together, and made functional firearms out of them. If I remember, the first "long-slide" 1911s were made by welding parts of two slides together.

I think it could be done, but not by the neighborhood welding shop.
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Old July 19, 2022, 04:12 PM   #7
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Your coyness only makes me want more of your details
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Old July 19, 2022, 06:18 PM   #8
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https://thefiringline.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=615074
I'm guessing the OP wants a CZ 97B slide.
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Old July 19, 2022, 07:39 PM   #9
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https://www.gunpartscorp.com/ Check there weekly, you may get lucky and find a replacement.
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Old July 19, 2022, 08:22 PM   #10
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Everygunpart.com sells parts sets from guns whose frames are judicially destroyed for fear they might return to bad behavior On The Street.

They don't show a CZ 97 but you can check back and maybe get on a wait list
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Old July 19, 2022, 08:23 PM   #11
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How about sending the whole gun back to CZ and see if they’ll fix it?
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Old July 19, 2022, 10:04 PM   #12
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Those slides come available as used parts on a semi-regular basis.
Find another slide.
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Old July 19, 2022, 10:51 PM   #13
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Buy a .22 caliber replacement upper for it and enjoy shooting .22s without having to buy primers for $ 100 a thousand.
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Old July 19, 2022, 11:34 PM   #14
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CZ 97b. Two broken barrel bushings, two broken barrel lugs, now the slide broke right behind the thin spot at the extractor.

CZ USA has no more spare slides as they aren't made anymore, worn't warranty as it's been modified (1911 bushing conversion).

Posted on three different boards, nobody has a spare slide.
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Old July 20, 2022, 12:42 AM   #15
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If you really like it, you may be able to find a custom gunsmith to fix it. it will cost a pretty penny.
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Old July 20, 2022, 05:41 AM   #16
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CZ 97b. Two broken barrel bushings, two broken barrel lugs, now
the slide broke right behind the thin spot at the extractor.
God is trying to tell you something...

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Old July 20, 2022, 02:05 PM   #17
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Part it out on Gunbroker. You'll likely come close to the price of the gun.
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Old July 21, 2022, 02:56 PM   #18
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Definitely part it out. I don't get the wisdom in "destroying" it. That sort of falls into the anti-gun mindset of the gun somehow being evil that must be eliminated. At worst its a collection of parts that still have value as replacements to other people.

Or honestly if it were me I'd probably just stick it aside, create a saved Search alert on ebay and Gunbroker and wait to see if a replacement slide ever becomes available.
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Old July 21, 2022, 03:50 PM   #19
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If the OP really likes the 97B, another CZ97B could be bought and he'd already have some spare parts, including an extra frame.
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Old July 23, 2022, 11:50 PM   #20
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Wow, the 75s are great guns and I had considered a 97. I didn't know slide cracking was an issue with them. Don't shoot my EAA that much but the round top slides had cracking issues too. Find someone with an EAA 45 and compare slide dimensions to see if one could be modified to fit your 97. They use the same mecgar magazine so some of the slide characteristics may be close too.
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Old July 27, 2022, 07:03 PM   #21
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An it not be welded? I mean, many firearms are made from demilled firearms that are welded back whole. Maybe it being a slide presents a problem?
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Old July 28, 2022, 05:50 PM   #22
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There is currently a 45ACP Witness T97C slide assembly listed on eBay for $150.
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Old July 28, 2022, 08:01 PM   #23
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An it not be welded?
Sure it could. A guy here was very fond of a particular pistol, wore out three of them. The last is still kept ready to hand with the slide welded back together. He now does his volume shooting with a different make, though.

But I doubt a FFL gunsmith would take on the liability, the guy here probably had his done down at the garage, from the looks.
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Old July 28, 2022, 08:12 PM   #24
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CZ 97b. Two broken barrel bushings, two broken barrel lugs, now the slide broke right behind the thin spot at the extractor.

CZ USA has no more spare slides as they aren't made anymore, worn't warranty as it's been modified (1911 bushing conversion).

Posted on three different boards, nobody has a spare slide.
Move on, so many new guns for reasonable price. Why even fix a broken gun? Be very careful about the safety if you try to weld parts back, it's a lot of pressure firing the gun, you don't want it to fly apart when you shoot. There usually a reason the gun broke, too many round went through it is one of them. Even if you fix this one, other new problem might show up later.

I do some gun smithing, BUT I never try to fix broken parts, either I can buy a brand new part to replace it or I junk the gun. Move on. Save the money for the new one.
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Old July 30, 2022, 06:42 PM   #25
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Unfortunately the Witness slides won't fit.
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