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December 10, 2019, 01:32 AM | #51 | |
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I will say that I also carry a Glock, either a 26 or 30, and I am comfortable; I'd even feel totally fine cocked and locked to be honest, but not an LCP II. Glock has the trigger safety and a firing pin block. P238 has a firing pin block and a manual safety. Cocked and unlocked on a P238 is comparable to Glock carry. LCP II on the other hand only has a transfer bar. I have never heard a report of a drop triggering the LCP II but I don't like it and I have no problem whatsoever with the more deliberate, safer LCP regular trigger so I prefer the regular trigger which I trust more. I'm quite accurate with it and I think it has a light, smooth trigger in my example. A bit long but not heavy nor gritty at all. Mine is much lighter than the DA pull on any revolver or DA/SA pistol I've owned, so while it's not as light as a Glock it's pretty manageable. Before anyone rips me and says it's perfectly safe I'd like to preemptively say that I'm sure it is, so the other reason to prefer the LCP to the LCP II is because it's thinner with a shorter grip and a marginally shorter overall length. |
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December 10, 2019, 09:54 AM | #53 |
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As I mentioned, I bought the 380 Bodyguard. It’s to be my Christmas present, but before it got wrapped, I shot it a bit. Recoil wasn’t snappy or painful, which was good. Accuracy at about 10 yards was very good, and better than I honestly expected. It seems that I bought the pistol that best meets my requirements. I’ll upgrade the sights, and I might replace the trigger with a shorter pull version. The sights are much better than some of the other micro pistols, as they can be adjusted or replaced. I’ll see if I can get some tritium dot sights.
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December 10, 2019, 12:39 PM | #56 |
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Not a target gun, but the LCP is easy to carry, fairly easy to shoot due to its small size, and the trigger is long and heavy. It's the type of trigger I'd expect on a pocket gun but by no means is it terrible.
Just long and heavy.
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December 10, 2019, 03:08 PM | #57 |
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Just to clarify the LCP II safety features, this from Ruger in their FAQ section:
Q "What safety devices are incorporated into the design of the LCP® II?" A "We put a significant amount of engineering effort into designing a short, crisp LCP® II firing mechanism that also is safe, reliable and consistent. We then verified the design through our robust testing process. The LCP® II hammer and sear geometry were designed with significant engagement for a positive lockup. The sear is neutrally balanced and under strong spring tension, which helps prevent disengagement during a drop scenario. In the unlikely event that a significant shock to the pistol results in disengagement of the hammer from the sear, the design includes a hammer catch to help prevent the hammer from contacting the firing pin unless the trigger is pulled. Our testing has revealed that this design passes all standard tests and is very safe from discharge due to a drop. Notably, the LCP® II design features a bladed trigger safety that prevents the trigger from moving rearward without intentionally being pulled. Every LCP® II is shipped from the factory with a pocket holster that protects the trigger when properly utilized." https://ruger.com/service/faqs.html
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December 10, 2019, 09:21 PM | #58 |
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Yes, however, some of us have years of intimately knowledge of removing the guts of the P3AT and it's history.
Kel Tec could have shortened the travel of the PA3T. It didn't because of drop safety issues which Kel Tec forum members knew. The gen2 LCP is about it for safety. LCP II? no thanks. The LCP is a copy of the P3AT. |
December 10, 2019, 10:54 PM | #59 |
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Best of breed (tight and small) to me is still the Ruger LCP custom.
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December 11, 2019, 12:01 PM | #60 |
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I’ve been attracted to the build quality of the Pico, but the grip just feels way too small to me and I don’t have large hands. For small, thin, and light, I go with the LCP gen 2. (But usually depend on a P238.)
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December 11, 2019, 12:11 PM | #61 |
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Bersa Firestorm, precutsor of Thunder, EDC in small IWB, never fail to go bang.
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December 14, 2019, 09:35 AM | #62 |
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The easiest carry for me was a Walther PPK/S in 380 , being my daughter shot it better then me and she loved the pistol , well, it's her's now . The S&W 36 Chief snub nose in 38 spl. is the smallest I carry in a holster not my pocket .
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December 16, 2019, 03:05 AM | #63 |
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.380 Russian Makarov.
But can you quickly pull it out of what could become very tight pockets? |
December 16, 2019, 09:55 AM | #64 |
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Dedicated Pico Fan. Build quality is fantastic. I have two. One of them has more rounds fired through it than 4 of the LCP's I completely destroyed from shooting so often. And I have a size large hand. Shooting small barrel guns is my hobby. Shoot at least once a week. Getting ready to order another Pico just to add to the collection and keep in the safe. I also like the Kahr CW380. Both guns are very easy to shoot well and very mild, with little snap.
The op asked about thin, well the Pico is thin. I carry it many times in my watch pocket of my jeans. I like the way Beretta did the long finger extension on the mag. Makes for easy to pull up for quick drawing. |
December 16, 2019, 10:53 AM | #65 |
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I won't call the LCPII unsafe, but it's less safe than an LCP gen2 or a P3-AT.
and this is purely personal but the trigger on my LCP GEN2 is good. I shoot my Redhawk DA, my GP100 DA, and my SP101 DA and the gen 2 has the lightest trigger. For my frame of reference it's a nice shootable trigger. |
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December 17, 2019, 07:05 AM | #67 |
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I bought a S&W Bodyguard .380 for my wife to carry. Nice little gun, reliable and surprisingly accurate. It just didn't work for her, as she lacks the hand strength to operate the slide. I didn't need it since my pocket rocket is a Glock 43, so I traded the Bodyguard for a S&W .380 EZ for the Mrs.
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December 17, 2019, 11:57 AM | #69 |
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The Remington RM380 is a good choice.
Not as small as the LCP, but is a softer shooter and the slide is easier to rack. |
December 17, 2019, 12:11 PM | #70 |
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I've added a Hogue rubber grip sleeve. Required a little trimming but works well to improve the grip.
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December 19, 2019, 11:38 PM | #71 |
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I carry this, the SpringField 911 one in the chamber and 7 in the magazine when I work out and only wear warmups with an elastic band. Shoots great lighter than the Sig and the Micro Kimber and the magazines are interchangeable with the Sig and Kimber but are half the price. Also this gun is lighter than the Sig and the Micro. Night sights are very very bright at night. I like it a lot
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December 31, 2019, 07:16 PM | #73 | |
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I used to have a .380. A jewel for sure but torture to shoot. The middle knuckle of my middle finger got it from the back of the trigger guard every time. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro |
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December 31, 2019, 07:56 PM | #74 |
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I’ve run a couple hundred rounds through the Bodyguard 380 so far. Cleaned it yesterday. Wasn’t hard to strip down. I’ve ordered the tritium night sights for it. I might leave the trigger alone. The pull is long, but smooth, and can be 75% taken up and then squeezed to fire. Works pretty well like that, though I have to wonder if I’d have that much trigger control in a stressful situation.
It really is an accurate little pistol. A SiL said he couldn’t believe how well I shot that thing. That said, the really accurate pistol is my 380 EZ. |
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Depends on the 380, IMHO. I had a Ruger LCP(second gen, NOT LCP2) and hated shooting that thing. Couldn't wait to get rid of it. Have a G42..seems like a 'goldilocks' 380 to me. A JOY to shoot, easy to carry, even pocket, with a 'ClipDraw'...love that little HG
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