How much will you pay for small or large pistol primers per 1000? - Page 2

FITASC · January 21, 2021, 01:28 PM

I paid $200 all in delivered for 5,000 Winchester 209 shotgun primers (which typically cost more than SPP or LPP), so that is $40/1000

cdoc42 · January 21, 2021, 01:39 PM

Where is the "demand" originating? New gun owners may fire their first 50 rounds to acclimate themselves to a gun they really never intended to use, anyway. Then they'll buy another box of 50 and it sits until "needed." So I can't understand why the "demand" for manufactured ammo is so continual. Certainly, even the majority of gun owners who do not reload are not likely to shoot the volume that handloaders do.

I'd be more inclined to suspect Uncle Sam is purchasing ammo in greater quantities and stock-piling it so that demand stays high and prices go up enough to discourage any gun owner from buying "too much" ammo. It also impacts the handloaders because supplies are non-existent. When it begins to turn around a bit, prices may remain high, or at least have a ceiling commensurate with the amount most are willing to pay, but over time, that drag will see some handloaders reducing the intensity of their hobby. What better way is there for gun control to occur without political action being obvious?

Metal god · January 21, 2021, 01:50 PM

Your pole really needed a none of the above , that said . I'd spend $100 if I had to and if I were actually out and there was civil unrest . I don't think there'd be I price I wouldn't pay , it's all relative I guess . Thank god for now I need not worry about any of that .

I have to say I feel many of you guys are straight up lying to your self . If you had no primers you would just stop shooting and never have ammo again ? I know these poles can be silly but at least try to be honest about it . I don't need primers and will not for many years likely so it would be easy for me to say the most I'd pay is $25 but I know that would be dishonest . I'd pay what ever it took "IF" I had to . Maybe the OP could have asked the question different to get more realistic answers

hounddawg · January 21, 2021, 02:07 PM

For those willing to pay in excess of $250 per sleeve let me know, I may be within driving distance and do I have a deal for you

- joking of course lol

Metal god · January 21, 2021, 03:05 PM

Lol

jetinteriorguy · January 22, 2021, 07:29 AM

My guess is once things settle down supply wise prices will never drop below $400./1000 but will most likely settle at $50.00/1000. Like most things I’ll have to live with that. This always seems to be the trend with prices, they never go back down to pre panic prices.

higgite · January 22, 2021, 08:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Benchmark12

How much will you pay for small or large pistol primers per 1000?

How much are you planning on charging for them?

Reloadron · January 22, 2021, 09:50 AM

Poll: How much will you pay for small or large pistol primers?

$30 and I really don't need any and have not needed any for the last few shortages. I did shoot 150 of them yesterday though.

Ron

Altonv · January 22, 2021, 10:32 AM

When this all started I paid $40 for small pistol mag primers, $50 for large pistol mag primers from a small store, but others have now found my honey hole. I recently paid $115 for 1,000 small pistol primers for loading my 9mm. I have plenty of 9mm ammo, but my hand loads are so much more accurate than the American Eagle and Sig ammo I have laying around.

Average Joe · January 22, 2021, 11:11 AM

None of the above poll, so I didn't vote.

TruthTellers · January 23, 2021, 07:34 AM

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Originally Posted by jetinteriorguy

My guess is once things settle down supply wise prices will never drop below $400./1000 but will most likely settle at $50.00/1000. Like most things I’ll have to live with that. This always seems to be the trend with prices, they never go back down to pre panic prices.

.22 never went back to pre-panic prices, but it got close. Besides, having to pay another $10-15 for primers vs not having primers or having to pay $100 for them is not the worst thing.

TruthTellers · January 23, 2021, 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by wizrd

A local shop in upstate NY - has primers for $ 150.00 per thousand. I passed at those prices. Owner's remarks were - "Believe me, I WISH I didn't have to charge that much." Have mnfr's prices gone up that much - or is he blowing smoke?

The cost to manufacture is no different now than it was a year ago, but nobody is getting bulk prices on anything right now, it's all small order stuff and the shipping costs the same for a brick of primers or 100 of them.

It's either on him or his distributor, but why they're paying double and forcing us to pay triple doesn't make sense just because demand is high and supply is low.

jetinteriorguy · January 23, 2021, 08:13 AM

Retailers raise prices to compensate for low sales volume in order to keep paying the bills. Their expenses are relatively fixed so a higher profit is needed when volume is low in order to maintain cash flow needed to pay these expenses. Volume isn’t low due to demand, it’s low based on availability so they are kind of at the mercy of the supply/demand cycle. Now that being said, I do believe there is also a little gouging involved as well.

berettaprofessor · January 23, 2021, 09:03 AM

What I'll pay depends entirely on what the cost of factory complete cartridges are for that caliber.

higgite · January 23, 2021, 10:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TruthTellers

It's either on him or his distributor, but why they're paying double and forcing us to pay triple doesn't make sense just because demand is high and supply is low.

That's a different version of supply and demand than the one I was taught.

Marco Califo · January 23, 2021, 11:55 AM

It is supply and demand, and the primers are all going into loaded ammo, where there is huge demand for Americans to arm themselves against rioters, looters, and violence. I buy primers when available cheaply and stock-up. $27-45 per thousand, and that high-end was when I bought a 45. I have not needed to buy any since they were last available. I have 2 to 35+ year old primers (and some obsolete powders) that all go bang. If you do not have the prequisite personal inventory, maybe you should "fix bayonets", or, take up muzzle loading, archery, soft-ball+ sized stones, walking stick/baseball bat, fly fishing, (or just stop whining).
I recently watched a video clip of a guy confronted by an agitated mountain lion. Stones (and his cell phone to record it) saved the day. Offense was the best defense, but it took the guy 5 minutes of back-pedalling to figure that out. I was rooting for the big cat.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9Pg2CDCm34w

jetinteriorguy · January 23, 2021, 12:30 PM

I’ll stick with my Viking axe and sword, I’m celebrating my heritage.

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January 21, 2021, 01:28 PM	#26
FITASC Senior Member Join Date: December 6, 2014 Posts: 6,442	I paid $200 all in delivered for 5,000 Winchester 209 shotgun primers (which typically cost more than SPP or LPP), so that is $40/1000 __________________ "I believe that people have a right to decide their own destinies; people own themselves. I also believe that, in a democracy, government exists because (and only so long as) individual citizens give it a 'temporary license to exist'—in exchange for a promise that it will behave itself. In a democracy, you own the government—it doesn't own you."- Frank Zappa

January 21, 2021, 01:50 PM	#28
Metal god Senior Member Join Date: April 10, 2012 Location: San Diego CA Posts: 6,875	Your pole really needed a none of the above , that said . I'd spend $100 if I had to and if I were actually out and there was civil unrest . I don't think there'd be I price I wouldn't pay , it's all relative I guess . Thank god for now I need not worry about any of that . I have to say I feel many of you guys are straight up lying to your self . If you had no primers you would just stop shooting and never have ammo again ? I know these poles can be silly but at least try to be honest about it . I don't need primers and will not for many years likely so it would be easy for me to say the most I'd pay is $25 but I know that would be dishonest . I'd pay what ever it took "IF" I had to . Maybe the OP could have asked the question different to get more realistic answers __________________ If Jesus had a gun , he'd probably still be alive ! I almost always write my posts regardless of content in a jovial manor and intent . If that's not how you took it , please try again . Last edited by Metal god; January 21, 2021 at 01:59 PM.

January 21, 2021, 02:07 PM	#29
hounddawg Senior Member Join Date: March 1, 2009 Posts: 4,232	For those willing to pay in excess of $250 per sleeve let me know, I may be within driving distance and do I have a deal for you- joking of course lol __________________ “How do I get to the next level?” Well, you get to the next level by being the first one on the range and the last one to leave.” – Jerry Miculek

January 21, 2021, 03:05 PM	#30
Metal god Senior Member Join Date: April 10, 2012 Location: San Diego CA Posts: 6,875	Lol __________________ If Jesus had a gun , he'd probably still be alive ! I almost always write my posts regardless of content in a jovial manor and intent . If that's not how you took it , please try again .

January 21, 2021, 01:39 PM	#27
cdoc42 Senior Member Join Date: March 13, 2005 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 1,687	Where is the "demand" originating? New gun owners may fire their first 50 rounds to acclimate themselves to a gun they really never intended to use, anyway. Then they'll buy another box of 50 and it sits until "needed." So I can't understand why the "demand" for manufactured ammo is so continual. Certainly, even the majority of gun owners who do not reload are not likely to shoot the volume that handloaders do. I'd be more inclined to suspect Uncle Sam is purchasing ammo in greater quantities and stock-piling it so that demand stays high and prices go up enough to discourage any gun owner from buying "too much" ammo. It also impacts the handloaders because supplies are non-existent. When it begins to turn around a bit, prices may remain high, or at least have a ceiling commensurate with the amount most are willing to pay, but over time, that drag will see some handloaders reducing the intensity of their hobby. What better way is there for gun control to occur without political action being obvious?

January 22, 2021, 07:29 AM	#31
jetinteriorguy Senior Member Join Date: April 28, 2013 Posts: 3,173	My guess is once things settle down supply wise prices will never drop below $400./1000 but will most likely settle at $50.00/1000. Like most things I’ll have to live with that. This always seems to be the trend with prices, they never go back down to pre panic prices.

January 22, 2021, 09:50 AM	#33
Reloadron Senior Member Join Date: June 8, 2016 Location: Cleveland, Ohio Suburbs Posts: 1,750	Poll: How much will you pay for small or large pistol primers? $30 and I really don't need any and have not needed any for the last few shortages. I did shoot 150 of them yesterday though. Ron

January 22, 2021, 10:32 AM	#34
Altonv Junior Member Join Date: January 22, 2021 Location: Zuehl, Texas Posts: 4	When this all started I paid $40 for small pistol mag primers, $50 for large pistol mag primers from a small store, but others have now found my honey hole. I recently paid $115 for 1,000 small pistol primers for loading my 9mm. I have plenty of 9mm ammo, but my hand loads are so much more accurate than the American Eagle and Sig ammo I have laying around.

January 22, 2021, 11:11 AM	#35
Average Joe Senior Member Join Date: August 29, 2005 Location: Central Florida Posts: 1,325	None of the above poll, so I didn't vote.

January 23, 2021, 08:13 AM	#38
jetinteriorguy Senior Member Join Date: April 28, 2013 Posts: 3,173	Retailers raise prices to compensate for low sales volume in order to keep paying the bills. Their expenses are relatively fixed so a higher profit is needed when volume is low in order to maintain cash flow needed to pay these expenses. Volume isn’t low due to demand, it’s low based on availability so they are kind of at the mercy of the supply/demand cycle. Now that being said, I do believe there is also a little gouging involved as well.

January 23, 2021, 09:03 AM	#39
berettaprofessor Senior Member Join Date: November 23, 2008 Posts: 1,091	What I'll pay depends entirely on what the cost of factory complete cartridges are for that caliber. __________________ "What most people forget is that the first country the Nazi's conquered was their own." 44AMP on thefiringline.com

January 23, 2021, 11:55 AM	#41
Marco Califo Senior Member Join Date: April 4, 2011 Location: LA (Greater Los Angeles Area) Posts: 2,598	Make do with whatever means available It is supply and demand, and the primers are all going into loaded ammo, where there is huge demand for Americans to arm themselves against rioters, looters, and violence. I buy primers when available cheaply and stock-up. $27-45 per thousand, and that high-end was when I bought a 45. I have not needed to buy any since they were last available. I have 2 to 35+ year old primers (and some obsolete powders) that all go bang. If you do not have the prequisite personal inventory, maybe you should "fix bayonets", or, take up muzzle loading, archery, soft-ball+ sized stones, walking stick/baseball bat, fly fishing, (or just stop whining). I recently watched a video clip of a guy confronted by an agitated mountain lion. Stones (and his cell phone to record it) saved the day. Offense was the best defense, but it took the guy 5 minutes of back-pedalling to figure that out. I was rooting for the big cat. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9Pg2CDCm34w __________________ ............ Last edited by Marco Califo; January 23, 2021 at 04:32 PM. Reason: Linked

January 23, 2021, 12:30 PM	#42
jetinteriorguy Senior Member Join Date: April 28, 2013 Posts: 3,173	I’ll stick with my Viking axe and sword, I’m celebrating my heritage.