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Old October 4, 2017, 01:08 PM   #1
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Ruger Announces Return of the SP101 in 9mm

Ruger has announced the return of the SP101 in 9mm. They also have new LCRx revolvers
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Old October 4, 2017, 07:45 PM   #2
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Cool. They hopefully didn’t put it on the 4” platform.....

Just peeked at their website. Guess I’ll have to put my money where my mouth is and buy one.

A 3” sp chambered in .327 would make my day as well.
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Old October 4, 2017, 08:49 PM   #3
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What Dan-O said. Bring back the 3" in .327. (with fixed sights)
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Old October 5, 2017, 12:36 AM   #4
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Any information on when they will be available for purchase? Guess I need to mozy on over to Ruger's website and pay them a visit.
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Old October 5, 2017, 07:16 AM   #5
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sp101 9mm bbl length

Checked the Ruger site. The 9mm is (at least to start) a 2 1/4" bbl. and holds a scant 5 rounds. Oh well, that removes it from contention for me, anyway.
MSR $700.

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Old October 5, 2017, 07:36 AM   #6
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Interesting, will have to give one a look. I really enjoy mu Speed Six in 9mm.
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Old October 5, 2017, 09:31 AM   #7
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Makes me glad I sold my 3" 9mm last year, my timing isn't usually that good.
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Old October 7, 2017, 09:09 AM   #8
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So, does that mean it is a 5-round, moon clip gun? Whatever.
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Old October 7, 2017, 05:35 PM   #9
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does that mean it is a 5-round, moon clip gun?
I don’t know what else it could be and still be an SP101.
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Old October 7, 2017, 09:58 PM   #10
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Ruger announces 9mm SP101

I tried to paste the link from the Ruger website, but was unable to.

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Old October 7, 2017, 10:19 PM   #11
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http://www.ruger.com/products/sp101/...eets/5783.html
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Old October 7, 2017, 10:20 PM   #12
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Seems kind of spendy......

http://www.ruger.com/products/sp101/...eets/5783.html

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Old October 7, 2017, 10:21 PM   #13
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Seems kind of spendy......

http://www.ruger.com/products/sp101/...eets/5783.html

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Yes, I agree about the spendy part.

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Old October 7, 2017, 10:21 PM   #14
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Also: https://thefiringline.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=590106
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Old October 8, 2017, 12:06 AM   #15
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Thanks for sharing the link y'all.
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Old October 8, 2017, 12:11 AM   #16
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One wonders of any 9mm load that would expand reliably and penetrate from such a short barrel that also has a cylinder gap. Most are of course made to perform from longer barrels with a sealed chamber.

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Old October 8, 2017, 12:14 AM   #17
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Just looks nifty to me. I want one!
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Old October 8, 2017, 02:09 AM   #18
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The 9mm is (at least to start) a 2 1/4" bbl. and holds a scant 5 rounds. Oh well, that removes it from contention for me...
I like 9mm but prefer to keep it in my semi-autos. I get it. It's cost effective. It's more powerful than .38 special without reaching the recoil levels of .357 magnum. It can be a fun way for semi-auto guys to break into revolvers. I just like revolver rounds in my revolvers.

I'm also with a couple of other posters here who expressed interest in a reissued shorter-barrel .327 Federal. It's more powerful than 9mm without reaching the recoil levels of .357 magnum. It's a six-shooter on the same frame that has both 9mm and .38/.357 holding five. Yeah, it's a little more expensive and you can't buy it at Wal-Mart. It's still very cool and very effective for what it is.

That said, there is a new LCRx coming out in .327 Federal. I'm still curious to see if they come out with a longer-barreled magnum frame in that line.
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Old October 9, 2017, 03:41 PM   #19
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I don't know Model12Win, some 9mm ammo displays velocities higher than might be expected in the little 2" and 3" revolvers.

I chronographed the Federal 124 grain HST, that seems well thought of as a carry load, in a couple little 2" and 3" revolvers.

2" = 1195 FPS
3" = 1291 FPS

I think this compares pretty well with the 1236 FPS this ammo produced in a semi-auto with 5" barrel. I suspect terminal performance with this ammo would be about the same from any of these guns.
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I don't know Model12Win, some 9mm ammo displays velocities higher than might be expected in the little 2" and 3" revolvers.

I chronographed the Federal 124 grain HST, that seems well thought of as a carry load, in a couple little 2" and 3" revolvers.

2" = 1195 FPS
3" = 1291 FPS

I think this compares pretty well with the 1236 FPS this ammo produced in a semi-auto with 5" barrel. I suspect terminal performance with this ammo would be about the same from any of these guns.
I see. I would want to see gel tests before I carried a load, though. Even a subtle decrease in velocity can mean the difference in an expanded vs. non expanded hollow point cavity.

Still, I really like this SP-101. Very cheap ammo. With moon clips it looks very fun. The heavy steel construction should reduce recoil over the LCR and S&W small frame alloy 9mm revolvers.
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Old October 11, 2017, 10:05 AM   #21
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A few years ago I remember reading several articles about 9mm fired from revolvers. One was, I think, by Wiley Clapp. He published results that indicated 9mm revolvers benefited more from the added length of cylinder and barrel (compared to a chamber included barrel on a semi auto) than they were handicapped by the cylinder gap. Most of his published velocities showed 2-2 1/4 inch barrels getting velocities comparable to 3 1/2 inch semis and 3 inch revolvers running with 4-4 1/2 inch barrel autoloaders. I wish I had that chart to show here. Ammo capacity will never be comparable, lol.
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Old October 11, 2017, 10:44 AM   #22
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... that's a lot of weight for only five rounds of 9mm. Just saying ...
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Old October 11, 2017, 11:28 AM   #23
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I see. I would want to see gel tests before I carried a load, though. Even a subtle decrease in velocity can mean the difference in an expanded vs. non expanded hollow point cavity.
Remember also that a 3" revolver barrel is 3" of barrel. This is not true in a semi that measures the chamber as part of the barrel.
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Old October 11, 2017, 05:27 PM   #24
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The SP101 is a great magnum revolver. Putting 9mm rounds in it gives you all the pressure of a .357 but without the performance. Pretty dumb.
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Old October 12, 2017, 12:24 PM   #25
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Laz, My results in chronographing 9MM and 10MM ammunition in both revolvers and semi-auto pistols is consistent with what you report Mr. Clapp wrote.
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