I have a Winchester 1892 32.30 im trying to get an idea what its worth

devilchild · March 17, 2009, 08:07 PM

As the subject line says: Winchester model 1892 32.30 serial# 437533. This rifle is in fantastic condition for being 102 years old. There is a small amount of rust spots(and I do mean very little). The stock still has it's original finish with normal wear(at least to me). No damage what so ever. I have fired aprrox. 25 rounds through it since I inherited it from my father when he passed away in 2006. he last time I fired it was in October 2006. Otherwise its been cleaned, oiled and stored in a hardshell rifle carrier in a cool dry place.
The patina is awesome!!
If anyone has a vague idea what it could be worth, please reply. I can supply pictures if you like. Although, I feel pictures do not do justice to this rifle.
My father would never tell me where(he lived in central Ohio) and how much he purchased it for, but he knew it was worth way more than what he paid for it.
I recently visited a Cabelas Store in my area and seen a similar rifle in way worse condition that blew me away in its price.
I also have other firearms in my collection(also from my father) that vary in condition. For the most part, I know they of commercial variety with only 2 other being an exception(an Ithaca Firearms double barrel side by side 16ga w/a broken stock and a JC Higgins 12ga pump).
Once again, if anyone has any vague ideas, let me know.
Thank you to everyone!!

Scorch · March 17, 2009, 09:31 PM

Congratulations on the Winchester 1892. They are very nice rifles, and there is quite a bit of collector interest in them. If the rifle says "Model 1892" on the tang, it is pre-1920s production. If it says nothing on the tang, and instead says "Winchester Model 92" on the barrel, it is post-1920s production. With a serial number above 400,000, I believe it is post-WW1 production, but I could be wrong. The Winchester Model 92 was produced until 1963.

Since a lot of things go into determining the value of the rifle, have it appraised by an appraiser for an accurate value, but current value of your rifle would be between $1,000 and $2,500 if it is a typical carbine (depending on condition), up to $5,000+ if it is a Deluxe Rifle with a factory tang sight.

Hawg · March 18, 2009, 04:33 AM

Your Winchester was made in 1907.

devilchild · March 18, 2009, 08:10 AM

It has model 1892 on the tang. I also found the year of manufacture as well. Overall, it's a very nice rifle. Thank you for your insight.

PetahW · March 18, 2009, 11:34 AM

[model 1892 32.30 ]

That would be chambered for the .32-20 Winchester,
or .32-20 WCF, samo-samo - since the M92 is has short action, suitable for pistol-type cartridges.

There was never any such .32-30 cartridge. You might be confusing with the longer, rifle-type cartridges chambered in the Winchester 1894, like the .30-30, .32-40, and/ot the .32 Special (besides several other calibers/cartridges).

.

TEDDY · March 19, 2009, 10:44 AM

some people have called that cartridge 32/30 and I dont know why but I have seen it in print.As that was the first cartridge I loaded with awin tool and mold I am very familia with the name.I had a 73 win and I still have the tong tool and mold.

James K · March 19, 2009, 09:18 PM

Hi, devilchild,

You used the word "patina". Perhaps you meant the original blue finish, but patina, in the antique trade, is the brownish combination of rust, grease, old sweat, and plain dirt that accumulates on old tools and other metal objects, including guns. A gun with patina is not worthless, but it is worth a lot less than a gun with the original blue/black finish as it came from the factory, which is what you seem to describe.

Hi, Teddy and PetahW,

There was a .32-30 Remington, similar to the .32-20, but larger all around. Also, I have heard the .32 Winchester Special called the .32-30 because of its closeness to the .30-30. But neither of those rounds was ever chambered in the Winchester Models 1873 or 1892.

Jim

PetahW · March 20, 2009, 03:00 AM

Well, there was also a .31-30 Winchester experimental cartridge too, IIRC.
That also wasn't available in an 1892.

I was just referring to the commonly accepted nonclamature for the chambering of the OP's rifle.

In any event, the top of the OP's rifle's barrel should have the correct designation, of either ".32WCF" or ".32-20", and not ".32.30" - if it does, I (for one) would like to see a pic of the caliber stamp.

.

Hawg · March 20, 2009, 06:45 AM

My Winchester 92 made in 1907 is marked 32 WCF.

devilchild · March 20, 2009, 07:20 AM

I post a few pictures on Saturday. As for the "Patina" reference, I just used that to descripe it's age. Not that it is "dirty,sweaty,oily, or rusty". It is NOT. As a matter of fact, the blueing is all original.
Off the top of my head, I think its stamped .32-20 thats what I originally meant to say it was. Regardless, I will post the few pics and you all can decide for yourself.
Anyhow, I appreciate all the feedback!!

devilchild · March 21, 2009, 02:18 PM

I missed the pic of the chambered cartridge. It is stamped 32 w.c.f.
Also, I had made the mistake of the i.d. I meant 32.20. I have the rifle cartridges as well. They are Remington brand .32.20.

March 17, 2009, 08:07 PM	#1
devilchild Junior Member Join Date: March 17, 2009 Location: Pacific Northwest Posts: 4	I have a Winchester 1892 32.30 im trying to get an idea what its worth As the subject line says: Winchester model 1892 32.30 serial# 437533. This rifle is in fantastic condition for being 102 years old. There is a small amount of rust spots(and I do mean very little). The stock still has it's original finish with normal wear(at least to me). No damage what so ever. I have fired aprrox. 25 rounds through it since I inherited it from my father when he passed away in 2006. he last time I fired it was in October 2006. Otherwise its been cleaned, oiled and stored in a hardshell rifle carrier in a cool dry place. The patina is awesome!! If anyone has a vague idea what it could be worth, please reply. I can supply pictures if you like. Although, I feel pictures do not do justice to this rifle. My father would never tell me where(he lived in central Ohio) and how much he purchased it for, but he knew it was worth way more than what he paid for it. I recently visited a Cabelas Store in my area and seen a similar rifle in way worse condition that blew me away in its price. I also have other firearms in my collection(also from my father) that vary in condition. For the most part, I know they of commercial variety with only 2 other being an exception(an Ithaca Firearms double barrel side by side 16ga w/a broken stock and a JC Higgins 12ga pump). Once again, if anyone has any vague ideas, let me know. Thank you to everyone!!

March 17, 2009, 09:31 PM	#2
Scorch Senior Member Join Date: February 13, 2006 Location: Washington state Posts: 15,248	Congratulations on the Winchester 1892. They are very nice rifles, and there is quite a bit of collector interest in them. If the rifle says "Model 1892" on the tang, it is pre-1920s production. If it says nothing on the tang, and instead says "Winchester Model 92" on the barrel, it is post-1920s production. With a serial number above 400,000, I believe it is post-WW1 production, but I could be wrong. The Winchester Model 92 was produced until 1963. Since a lot of things go into determining the value of the rifle, have it appraised by an appraiser for an accurate value, but current value of your rifle would be between $1,000 and $2,500 if it is a typical carbine (depending on condition), up to $5,000+ if it is a Deluxe Rifle with a factory tang sight. __________________ Never try to educate someone who resists knowledge at all costs. But what do I know? Summit Arms Services

March 19, 2009, 10:44 AM	#6
TEDDY Junior member Join Date: December 10, 2006 Location: MANNING SC Posts: 837	32/20 some people have called that cartridge 32/30 and I dont know why but I have seen it in print.As that was the first cartridge I loaded with awin tool and mold I am very familia with the name.I had a 73 win and I still have the tong tool and mold.

March 19, 2009, 09:18 PM	#7
James K Member In Memoriam Join Date: March 17, 1999 Posts: 24,383	Hi, devilchild, You used the word "patina". Perhaps you meant the original blue finish, but patina, in the antique trade, is the brownish combination of rust, grease, old sweat, and plain dirt that accumulates on old tools and other metal objects, including guns. A gun with patina is not worthless, but it is worth a lot less than a gun with the original blue/black finish as it came from the factory, which is what you seem to describe. Hi, Teddy and PetahW, There was a .32-30 Remington, similar to the .32-20, but larger all around. Also, I have heard the .32 Winchester Special called the .32-30 because of its closeness to the .30-30. But neither of those rounds was ever chambered in the Winchester Models 1873 or 1892. Jim Last edited by James K; March 19, 2009 at 09:26 PM.

March 18, 2009, 04:33 AM	#3
Hawg Senior Member Join Date: September 8, 2007 Location: Mississippi Posts: 16,189	Your Winchester was made in 1907.

March 18, 2009, 08:10 AM	#4
devilchild Junior Member Join Date: March 17, 2009 Location: Pacific Northwest Posts: 4	It has model 1892 on the tang. I also found the year of manufacture as well. Overall, it's a very nice rifle. Thank you for your insight.

March 18, 2009, 11:34 AM	#5
PetahW Senior Member Join Date: September 19, 2008 Posts: 4,678	[model 1892 32.30 ] That would be chambered for the .32-20 Winchester, or .32-20 WCF, samo-samo - since the M92 is has short action, suitable for pistol-type cartridges. There was never any such .32-30 cartridge. You might be confusing with the longer, rifle-type cartridges chambered in the Winchester 1894, like the .30-30, .32-40, and/ot the .32 Special (besides several other calibers/cartridges). .

March 20, 2009, 03:00 AM	#8
PetahW Senior Member Join Date: September 19, 2008 Posts: 4,678	Well, there was also a .31-30 Winchester experimental cartridge too, IIRC. That also wasn't available in an 1892. I was just referring to the commonly accepted nonclamature for the chambering of the OP's rifle. In any event, the top of the OP's rifle's barrel should have the correct designation, of either ".32WCF" or ".32-20", and not ".32.30" - if it does, I (for one) would like to see a pic of the caliber stamp. .

March 20, 2009, 06:45 AM	#9
Hawg Senior Member Join Date: September 8, 2007 Location: Mississippi Posts: 16,189	My Winchester 92 made in 1907 is marked 32 WCF.

March 20, 2009, 07:20 AM	#10
devilchild Junior Member Join Date: March 17, 2009 Location: Pacific Northwest Posts: 4	I post a few pictures on Saturday. As for the "Patina" reference, I just used that to descripe it's age. Not that it is "dirty,sweaty,oily, or rusty". It is NOT. As a matter of fact, the blueing is all original. Off the top of my head, I think its stamped .32-20 thats what I originally meant to say it was. Regardless, I will post the few pics and you all can decide for yourself. Anyhow, I appreciate all the feedback!!

March 21, 2009, 02:18 PM	#11
devilchild Junior Member Join Date: March 17, 2009 Location: Pacific Northwest Posts: 4	I missed the pic of the chambered cartridge. It is stamped 32 w.c.f. Also, I had made the mistake of the i.d. I meant 32.20. I have the rifle cartridges as well. They are Remington brand .32.20.