Racking the 30 Super Carry

[reynolds357]

Originally Posted by Jaywalker

I'm considering a S&W Shield EZ. I understand the 380 racks the easiest, but is the 30SC easier to rack than the 9mm?

All three are real easy, and I have had my left thumb basal joint replaced and the other two joints reconstructed.

[Jaywalker]

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[Jaywalker]

Originally Posted by Ricklin

Is there are gaping hole in the calibers available suitable for self defense?
I think not.

Gaping holes? No. Possible improvements? Certainly.

[Jaywalker]

Originally Posted by reynolds357

All three are real easy, and I have had my left thumb basal joint replaced and the other two joints reconstructed.

That's very interesting. As I understand it, you either have basal joint problems or you will have them eventually.

[reynolds357]

Originally Posted by Jaywalker

That's very interesting. As I understand it, you either have basal joint problems or you will have them eventually.

My hand got stepped on plAying football and I developed early arthritis. Other two joints were hyperextension injury.

[cocojo]

I bought a shield ez in 30sc. I have to say I like it a lot. People seem to be afraid to buy a 30sc. Thats because they listen to people who never shot this caliber. It’s really nice hot cartridge. I think because too many bad mouthing the cartridge without ever trying it.Too bad it’s really is a fun round. Im going to do some reloading with it. It’s a lot a fun finding what works. I hope this round stick around. I don't see why anyone would buy a 380 over this round. The 30sc is a much better caliber than 380 with less recoil than the 9mm and it hold more ammo.

[603Country]

I had a 380EZ. It was for my wife. It was easy to rack, easy to shoot and quite accurate. Ammo was expensive, so I started to reload for it, but since I reload for 9mm too, did I really need a 380? I looked at the 9mm EZ, and it was a bit harder to rack. And neither caliber pistol held a bunch of rounds. And then I found that my wife and other visiting women had a problem with that grip safety. If not squeezed, the pistol won’t shoot, which could be a real problem in a crisis. The wife decided she hated it, and I decided that I didn’t like it enough. Sold it. Bought an Sig 365 X Macro. Much harder to rack, but 17 rounds and no grip safety.

That said, if the OP wants an EZ on 30 Super, he should buy it. But…the grip safety…

[wild cat mccane]

As said before of why not, 380 Federal DEEP best 30sc hst for penetration and expansion. Better round by all measures.

You can like it, but you can't say it bests 380-it doesn't.

Yrs later, still no smaller than 9mm frame, one benefits Federal said of 30sc.

[Sharkbite]

That said, if the OP wants an EZ on 30 Super, he should buy it. But…the grip safety…

The grip safety is there because the EZ series pistols are single action hammer fired guns. The hammer is hidden inside the slide. That is one thing that makes them so easy to rack. Once the hammer is cocked (and out of the way) the slide is only working against the recoil spring. If the hammer is down, like when clearing a failure to fire malfunction, the slide movement must overcome the hammer spring as well. Harder to rack in that condition.

[CajunBass]

Not too long ago, I had all three Shield EZ models. 380, 30 SC, and 9mm. I sold the 9mm because it was sort of redundant since I also had three Shield 2.0's in 9mm.

Of the three EZ's the 380 is my personal favorite. It is a slightly smaller and lighter handgun, with lighter recoil. Being an old man with a bad back, and arthritus, those are important factors. It is as reliable as can be.

The 30 SC and the 9mm are basicially the same size gun. The 30SC may be a little heavier due to more steel in the barrel, but if so, I never really noticed it. A couple extra rounds add to it, also I suppose.

The 30 SC has a snappier recoil than the 380. About the same as the 9mm in my experience, and in my old memory. I haven't fired the 30 SC since not long after I got it, for less than half retail price at a local dealer. It was marked as "used" but I doubt it had been fired outside the factory. I got it because (1) it was cheap, (2) I was curious (3) Why not?

I put about 400 rounds through it when I first got it, both FMJ and HP. No malfunctions at all. The ammo was cheap (dealer dumping it no doubt) so I've got about 1000 rounds stashed away. The gun fed FMJ, and some Remington HP's (the only ones I've seen) just fine. I didn't shoot it any worse than I do any other gun.

Oh, I'd say the 30 and the 9mm took about the same force to rack the slide, or at least I don't remember them being any different. Neither of them were as stiff as the 2.0 Shields. Magazines are easy (no pun intended) to load. I don't bother with the loading tabs, just load conventionally. The 2.0 Shields are much more difficult at least at first. For what it's worth, I just checked the trigger pull on the 30 SC. Average for about a half dozen pulls. 4.5 pounds.

Awww darn. I might have to try carrying this thing for another day or two. It ain't bad really. Need to get it to the range to familiarize myself again.

[cocojo]

I took my 28 year old daughter to the range on Monday. She wanted to go with me to the range. She has only shot 22 cal guns, and it’s been a while. Anyway, I had my shield 30 sc ez and 9mm 4 inch shield. I had her try to rack the slide on the regular shield, she couldn't do it. She tried the shield ez in 30 sc, she had no issues. She shot the 30 ez and she was shooting excellent. Recoil was manageable, trigger was great and loading the magazines she loved. No issues shooting and racking the ez 30sc slide. It does have less recoil than the 9mm and I think it performs outstanding.

[wild cat mccane]

Totally apples to oranges though.

RSA poundage has large amounts of lbs that can be adjusted to still function.

Without knowing it, I know the M&P RSA lbs is set to reliability and the EZ is set lower for pull weight.

So what you observed is 100% expected.

[cocojo]

Wild Cat, my point was that my daughter had no issues racking the slide on my EZ 30 SC. You seem to have an issue with the 30 sc cartridge for some reason. I wasn't comparing apples to anything my statement was that my daughter had no problem racking the ez slide. it's only her second time shooting and she was outstanding. Throughout this thread all I have read was the round is dead, it's no better than a 380 or whatever. Who the hell cares if the person buying the gun likes it. It's their money! It's just another handgun cartridge to enjoy and take shooting.

[44 AMP]

Ny daughter had no issues racking the slide of my Browning BDA .45, and that was 30 years ago. What's the point of the whole "easy to rack" thing??