November 29, 2005, 10:00 PM | #1 |
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question from a newbie
I know everyone here loves scenarios so here goes. I have watched bounty hunters on tv and sometimes they kick in doors or just walk into peoples yards with guns at the ready barking orders. What if for some reason in a case of mistaken identity or address, they were to point firearms at the wrong person who happens to be a ccw holder, or they enter a dwelling and it happens to be someone who keeps a firearms for personal defense. What would happen to the homeowner if he or she shot a bounty hunter?
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to me they are intruders, scaring my family. if they thought they had a legit reason to come in i would call the cops on them, let the cops sort it out. JMO
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November 30, 2005, 12:04 AM | #3 |
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I would love to say I would shoot too, but with the F'd up laws in Iowa. I would probably go to prison. They would definitely be staring down the barrel of something though!!!
If they didn't announce before they entered, and they entered with pistols drawn. Someone's gonna be dead. Hopefully not me, that way I can be alive to get ass raped by my cell mate when I get sent to prison thanks to our backwards laws. Bounty Hunters definitely live "outside" the law to some extent. They can do a lot of things cops can't.
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I have no reason to believe that anyone has a reason to come arrest me, therefore, anyone doing a no knock entry in my house is defacto criminal. i shoot first.
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i am sure glad i live in Tejas.
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November 30, 2005, 02:08 AM | #6 |
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It's an interesting question.
Bounty hunters are, to my knowledge, private citizens engaged in the business of seeking out and capturing people who have "jumped bail' to avoid prosecution. If said person has crossed state lines, it becomes "Interstate flight to avoid prosecution" - a federal felony. BH's can pursue them if they want. However, they must abide by legal extradition procedures if they capture the BG in another state. (it's amazing how many BH's will claim they caught the guy *just* before he crossed the state line). As private citizens, they are not controlled by any agency regulations so they can be pretty pushy and tough sounding. Intimidation is a tool they can use against those who are ignorant of the law and their own rights. The bounty hunter's legal "right" to enter a premisis is limited. While police can enter a residence to apprehend a felon (the subject of an arrest warrant) with probable cause, the B.H. must *know* the person is there first. Once he knows the person is there he can, in most states, effect an arrest of a "felonious fugitive" using whatever means necessary to make such an arrest. If weapons are displayed they had best have a CCW permit for them or face charges themselves. A lot of B.H.'s wear some kind of badge and offical looking jackets and will simply ask if they can take a look in someone's home "to be sure" the felon is gone. And often they will rummage through desks or dressers looking for clues which police can't do legally. It's legal as long as no one tells them to stop -- just as if you invited a snoopy, uncouth neighbor over who wanted to rummage your medicine cabinet.
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I think Mikeyboy hit the nail on the head.
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Several years ago there was an incident where (if my memory serves me correct) 3 "bounty hunters" kicked down the door of a house, . . . went in.
The occupant grabbed a 9mm and wounded at least one of the BH's but got killed in the shootout in the bedroom. Last I heard, . . . the LEO's were looking at it from the angle of "drug deal went bad" and that the BH jackets etc. were just cover for drug dealer enforcement dudes. Anyway, . . . never heard the ending, . . . but was told that at least in Ohio, BH has the right to "whatever means necessary", . . . just glad I'm not on any of their lists. May God bless, Dwight
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Great forum for this bounty hunter question.
http://www.ipiu.org/forums/printthread.php?t=182 Sounds like quite an interesting senario. You get a couple of dudes trying to jump you in a parking lot claiming you're a fugitive when you're not. |
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Where in the heck did they find "Dog the Bounty Hunter"! Tell me they aren't scripted for television and I'll eat my hat. Just the sight of his ole' lady would be enough to make anybody give up! :barf: He ain't nuthin but an old x-con, recovering alcoholic who found religion and decided to start going after his own kind. He wouldn't be [color=#FF0000]█[/color][color=#FF0000]█[/color][color=#FF0000]█[/color][color=#FF0000]█[/color][color=#FF0000]█[/color] if it weren't for those young kids he drags around with him and even his son is an x-con. Ever notice they don't carry firearms? Probably because as x-cons they're not allowed to own them. I've only watched that show a couple of times and neither time did they go after any really bad guys.
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Without a warrant, anyone that kicks in my door is breaking the law whether it's a bounty hunter or a police officer. I've only watched 'Dog' a couple of times as I think it's based more on promoting his image than it is on the realities of everyday bounty hunting, but I've never seen them or any other BH on a show kick in someone's door. The go in if invited just like everyone else, or capture the bad guy in public somewhere. If they come in my house uninvited and without a warrant, it's breaking and entering...and that makes them 'dog-meat' in MY house.
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DoubleD, I believe that bounty hunters are allowed to enter without warrant or permission, to capture a fugitive. They can kick in a door.
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http://www.leg.state.fl.us/statutes/...8/titl0648.htm Of course, I see nothing protecting them in the statutes regarding self-defense, so I guess it doesn't matter. Quote:
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If you want an "accurate" portrayal of Bounty Hunters....go rent Domino with Mickey Rourke and Kiera Knighingly. Did you know they could cut off your arm? End Sarcasm.
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There have been a few cases of people in Fla shooting BH and even cops coming through the door with no charges filed or at least no conviction. Florida has always been very pro home defense
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DoubleD, I will try to research this later. I have to get the kids to school now. Here is a quote from someone who believes the same thing
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