Indoor league ideas

SVTCobra306 · September 15, 2015, 09:37 PM

I have been tasked with coming up with some winter leagues at the range I work at. I have shot competitions but never a league, and I am looking for ideas. I'd happily hand this one to someone else, but we are in the middle of nowhere and I'm it

What I'm working with:

-25 yard indoor range
-6 lanes
-dividers between shooting stations but not down range.

I'm open to entertaining any and all ideas, I am wanting to have probably a rimfire league of some form and a practical pistol style league also, I have a few ideas but I'm going to run out before the winter does LOL..

Thanks in advance!

g.willikers · September 16, 2015, 11:22 AM

It could pay to find out what the folks who show up want to do.
Unless you're absolutely sure about it, there's no sense spending time, effort and money for designing and setting up a league that no one wants to attend.
Do they want matches that emphasize accuracy or speed or multiple targets, or self defense scenarios, or something else?
Do they want static targets, reactive ones, ordinary and expected ones, unique and changing?
What you have in mind might be wildly successful or you could be the only one there.
Aren't you glad you asked?

1-DAB · September 16, 2015, 11:14 PM

That's enough space for an IDPA stage. With a little thought, you could design stages that are easy to setup and take down.

Jim Watson · September 16, 2015, 11:18 PM

There is a little (mostly) police league that shoots out on the floor of an indoor range here after store hours and the lane renters have gone.
Format is IDPA with tweaks to suit LE perceptions.
You must be CAREFUL doing action shooting on an indoor range.

Maybe better to start with a .22 poker shoot or some such.

What is the shooting background of your likely clientele?

SVTCobra306 · September 17, 2015, 08:43 AM

The average skill level will not be terribly high, the average pistol shooter around here knows how to handle the firearm but most of the shot groups are on the weak side. Most people I have talked to would simply like to see "anything" in their words, but I have a feeling bullseye shooting would lose interest fairly quickly.

I've been tossing around the idea of having the match type change, but I would need to keep it within the same firearm type so it doesn't become unaffordable, so they can all shoot it with the same pistol. That way I can start it out pretty straightforward and "simple", and assess the skill level of the partiipants a little bit better and move to harder stuff as the skill level progresses. I do have basically an open "bay" of sorts once you move in front of the shooting tables, I would have about a 15 yard wide bay to work with, and I am working on building some targetry for that, it all has to be breakable plate style targets that stand at chest level or so (so the bullet hits the trap) and the holder has to either be able to catch "misses" or be very small so that ricochets are not a danger.

g.willikers · September 17, 2015, 08:57 AM

What is meant by

Quote:

it all has to be breakable plate style targets

Like clay birds on a cardboard backing?
Who gets to clean up the mess afterwards?
We can probably guess.

MarkCO · September 17, 2015, 09:03 AM

Paper targets, .22RF, a few strings, time-plus penalties...there is a new sport being developed based on that basic formula. Rolls out SHOT2016.

g.willikers · September 17, 2015, 09:58 AM

Just remembered.
If you want reactionary targets and are content with .22 rimfires,
Make various shaped and size targets out of wood.
They react very much like steel without the dangers of ricochets.
Just make them thick enough to stop or slow down the bullets enough to cause suitable reactions.
1/2 inch usually does it.
They can probably be hung from the target supports that are already in place at the range.

Jim Watson · September 17, 2015, 11:52 AM

Quote:

Paper targets, .22RF, a few strings, time-plus penalties...there is a new sport being developed based on that basic formula. Rolls out SHOT2016.

Will it include a source for still scarce .22 ammo?

MarkCO · September 17, 2015, 12:37 PM

Quote:

Will it include a source for still scarce .22 ammo?

Yes. Talks are in process to include ammo with the match fee...sourced direct from the manufacturer.

1-DAB · September 17, 2015, 10:15 PM

Interesting. 22 ammo, I have some.

T. O'Heir · September 20, 2015, 12:17 PM

"...have a feeling bullseye shooting would lose interest fairly quickly..." Not likely. There are bullseye leagues everywhere. Some of which are or can be postal leagues with trophies etc. Bullseye shooting is how one gets good before one gets fast. All about how you sell it.
Talk to the NRA and/or the ISSF(Olympic shooting).
http://www.issf-sports.org/

g.willikers · September 20, 2015, 01:08 PM

There's always the compromise game of NRA Action Pistol, Bianchi Cup style matches.
Kind of a cross between bullseye and action pistol.
While it doesn't require anywhere near the accuracy of bullseye, it still requires plenty, especially for new shooters.
And is very easy to set up and take down.
Discounting the fancy stages, like the mover and falling plates, that is.
But with over a dozen courses of fire to choose from, there's plenty of others plus the ones you can invent.
The competition section of the NRA web site has the rule book and stages for downloading, if you are interested, along with all their other types of competitions, including Bullseye:
http://competitions.nra.org/official...ule-books.aspx

September 15, 2015, 09:37 PM	#1
SVTCobra306 Senior Member Join Date: March 18, 2013 Posts: 434	Indoor league ideas I have been tasked with coming up with some winter leagues at the range I work at. I have shot competitions but never a league, and I am looking for ideas. I'd happily hand this one to someone else, but we are in the middle of nowhere and I'm it What I'm working with: -25 yard indoor range -6 lanes -dividers between shooting stations but not down range. I'm open to entertaining any and all ideas, I am wanting to have probably a rimfire league of some form and a practical pistol style league also, I have a few ideas but I'm going to run out before the winter does LOL.. Thanks in advance! __________________ Former US Army Paratrooper (1/509th PIR and 2nd BCT 82nd ABN DIV) 2 time OIF Veteran NRA Certified RSO/CRSO NRA Certified Pistol Instructor

September 16, 2015, 11:22 AM	#2
g.willikers Senior Member Join Date: September 28, 2008 Posts: 10,442	It could pay to find out what the folks who show up want to do. Unless you're absolutely sure about it, there's no sense spending time, effort and money for designing and setting up a league that no one wants to attend. Do they want matches that emphasize accuracy or speed or multiple targets, or self defense scenarios, or something else? Do they want static targets, reactive ones, ordinary and expected ones, unique and changing? What you have in mind might be wildly successful or you could be the only one there. Aren't you glad you asked? __________________ Walt Kelly, alias Pogo, sez: “Don't take life so serious, son, it ain't nohow permanent.”

September 17, 2015, 08:43 AM	#5
SVTCobra306 Senior Member Join Date: March 18, 2013 Posts: 434	The average skill level will not be terribly high, the average pistol shooter around here knows how to handle the firearm but most of the shot groups are on the weak side. Most people I have talked to would simply like to see "anything" in their words, but I have a feeling bullseye shooting would lose interest fairly quickly. I've been tossing around the idea of having the match type change, but I would need to keep it within the same firearm type so it doesn't become unaffordable, so they can all shoot it with the same pistol. That way I can start it out pretty straightforward and "simple", and assess the skill level of the partiipants a little bit better and move to harder stuff as the skill level progresses. I do have basically an open "bay" of sorts once you move in front of the shooting tables, I would have about a 15 yard wide bay to work with, and I am working on building some targetry for that, it all has to be breakable plate style targets that stand at chest level or so (so the bullet hits the trap) and the holder has to either be able to catch "misses" or be very small so that ricochets are not a danger. __________________ Former US Army Paratrooper (1/509th PIR and 2nd BCT 82nd ABN DIV) 2 time OIF Veteran NRA Certified RSO/CRSO NRA Certified Pistol Instructor

September 17, 2015, 09:03 AM	#7
MarkCO Senior Member Join Date: October 21, 1998 Location: Colorado, USA Posts: 4,308	Paper targets, .22RF, a few strings, time-plus penalties...there is a new sport being developed based on that basic formula. Rolls out SHOT2016. __________________ Good Shooting, MarkCO www.CarbonArms.us

September 17, 2015, 09:58 AM	#8
g.willikers Senior Member Join Date: September 28, 2008 Posts: 10,442	Just remembered. If you want reactionary targets and are content with .22 rimfires, Make various shaped and size targets out of wood. They react very much like steel without the dangers of ricochets. Just make them thick enough to stop or slow down the bullets enough to cause suitable reactions. 1/2 inch usually does it. They can probably be hung from the target supports that are already in place at the range. __________________ Walt Kelly, alias Pogo, sez: “Don't take life so serious, son, it ain't nohow permanent.”

September 16, 2015, 11:14 PM	#3
1-DAB Senior Member Join Date: May 5, 2010 Location: Santa Fe, NM Posts: 474	That's enough space for an IDPA stage. With a little thought, you could design stages that are easy to setup and take down.

September 16, 2015, 11:18 PM	#4
Jim Watson Senior Member Join Date: October 25, 2001 Location: Alabama Posts: 18,541	There is a little (mostly) police league that shoots out on the floor of an indoor range here after store hours and the lane renters have gone. Format is IDPA with tweaks to suit LE perceptions. You must be CAREFUL doing action shooting on an indoor range. Maybe better to start with a .22 poker shoot or some such. What is the shooting background of your likely clientele?

September 17, 2015, 10:15 PM	#11
1-DAB Senior Member Join Date: May 5, 2010 Location: Santa Fe, NM Posts: 474	Interesting. 22 ammo, I have some.

September 20, 2015, 12:17 PM	#12
T. O'Heir Senior Member Join Date: February 13, 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 12,453	"...have a feeling bullseye shooting would lose interest fairly quickly..." Not likely. There are bullseye leagues everywhere. Some of which are or can be postal leagues with trophies etc. Bullseye shooting is how one gets good before one gets fast. All about how you sell it. Talk to the NRA and/or the ISSF(Olympic shooting). http://www.issf-sports.org/ __________________ Spelling and grammar count!

September 20, 2015, 01:08 PM	#13
g.willikers Senior Member Join Date: September 28, 2008 Posts: 10,442	There's always the compromise game of NRA Action Pistol, Bianchi Cup style matches. Kind of a cross between bullseye and action pistol. While it doesn't require anywhere near the accuracy of bullseye, it still requires plenty, especially for new shooters. And is very easy to set up and take down. Discounting the fancy stages, like the mover and falling plates, that is. But with over a dozen courses of fire to choose from, there's plenty of others plus the ones you can invent. The competition section of the NRA web site has the rule book and stages for downloading, if you are interested, along with all their other types of competitions, including Bullseye: http://competitions.nra.org/official...ule-books.aspx __________________ Walt Kelly, alias Pogo, sez: “Don't take life so serious, son, it ain't nohow permanent.”