April 18, 2011, 10:08 PM | #1 |
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Just a heads up,I purchased a Walther P-1 from Royal Tiger earlier in the year advertised as excellent. Turned out to be in excellent condition. I ordered today an FN Browning Hi Power from the same company also advertised as excellent condition. Turns out they are out of Israel and will be shipping after pass over. I looked at guns america for israel hi powers and they were definately not excellent, nor even very good as advertised by the sellers. I was told the pre 62s are C&R eligable and decided to take a chance...Just so ya know.
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Just looked at their website. Saw no mention of the High Powers. The only C&R pistols they listed was the P1 and P64. Both priced more than I paid for mine just a month or so ago. I haven't heard anywhere else that the High Powers are C&R qualified. '62 dated would be 50 years old, but I didn't know that made a gun automatically C&R. Thought the BATF still had to list them. Did their add say they were C&R?
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that's where the "relic" part of C&R comes in. Otherwise, if it's newer than 50, it has to be on the list as a "curio"
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If Ruby's Colt had been made prior to "today's" date in 1961, it would qualify as a C&R two ways: It would have significant historical association, thus eligible to be added to BATF's list AND it would be over 50 years old, which doesn't require being added to the list. |
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Copied from the BATF website:
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Egad, that means some of my rifles are C&R eligible that were made in the 50's. Oh dear...................I am C&R eligible!
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I checked the website and it didn't mention them either. My latest shotgun news was where I got the information. These folks have been real good to me, but if you have some worry about it, you can still get 4+ Mosins for the money.
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Nope, cheapshooter, just being "associated with" a Communist-bloc country does not make a gun a C&R. Those imported guns are either 50 years old (most are) or are not C&R.
Section 4 means just what folks think it means. The "event" is carefully not defined - BATFE would make an ad hoc decision on what qualifies. Jim |
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Not to argue, just wondering how they are C&R, and hoping many more qualify soon. Bob
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Cheapshooter,
Your CZ82 is C&R via the second criteria. It was certified by the curator of the West Point Museum and that was accepted by the BATF. |
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I WANT TO BE A CURATOR Sigs, Brownings, H&Ks, S&W, Ruger... They would all be in!!!
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One of the routes that one may take to attain C&R status is to petition BATF. You send them a letter stating your reason(s) why you think a particular gun should be a C&R, and, if they agree, it goes on the list. (Assuming said firearm is less than 50 years old, that is. Over 50 years old, it doesn't matter; It's automatic.)
I managed to get a few on the list back in the 70s. Of course, those guns are all over 50 years old now anyway. _________________________________________________________________ Has anyone else noticed that spelling check's alternative to BATF is "BARF?" |
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