March 1, 2013, 03:07 PM | #1 |
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Updated HR214/LEOSA?
Updated HR214/LEOSA?s updated to include military law enforcement, such as MP's, active & retired. Obviously, active duty has to comply with unit/duty station regs, but my question is regarding retired, or discharged soldiers
A bunch of my fellow MP friends are claiming that the only requirement to carry concealed is military paperwork (erb/dd214) stating they were former MP's & received training for the job. The requirements of "Retired" are that they: "separated from service in good standing with a government agency as a law enforcement officer for an aggregate of ten (10) years or more or separated from such an agency due to a service-connected disability after completing any applicable probationary period of such service" Most of the guys trying to use this, that is know, we're only enlisted for 5 years, so this wouldn't apply to them, correct? I just want to know, trying to look out for my brothers in arms. If they are covered, even better news! I've contacted the resident state trooper here in CT, but he was pretty clueless, since it was only updated a few weeks ago |
March 1, 2013, 03:21 PM | #2 |
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I don't think you are going to find much support for this here, and in fact my belief is that the RKBA community ought to lobby against it. What's good for the citizen is good for the other citizen.
Special rights for one class of citizen is an injustice to the others. I hate to be contrary, but this is a legislative way to divide and conquer, and it's not what the RKBA fight is all about. Willie . |
March 1, 2013, 03:32 PM | #3 |
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Honest responses are welcomed either way. I tend to agree that this bill is far from perfect. I was just trying to find information on it, to better inform others. I agree that this bill is divisive, but if it's there, it'd save them the few dollars it takes to get a concealed permit.
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March 1, 2013, 04:15 PM | #4 |
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The bill should be opposed by anyone seriously interested in the constitutional aspects of the RKBA debate. It's not one that is good for the cause. Let every man who wants to carry apply for a permit. If you cannot get one, due to living in a state that refuses to issue them (like NJ), join the fight.
No special classes of citizens should exist. "All animals are equal, but Some animals are more equal than others". Willie . Last edited by Willie Sutton; March 1, 2013 at 04:21 PM. |
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The only thing I have really noticed about it is here:
http://le.nra.org/leosa/leosa-welcom...-military.aspx http://le.nra.org/leosa.aspx A couple of excerpts... Quote:
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Hope that helps. Last edited by Fishing_Cabin; March 1, 2013 at 04:35 PM. |
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March 2, 2013, 01:38 PM | #6 |
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unless they are retired on a disability then 10 years of service would apply.
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March 2, 2013, 03:24 PM | #7 |
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Of the troops, for the troops...
I'd check here; www.MilitaryPolice.com .
They may have more details on the forum. MPs(31B) & CIDC agents should get LEOSA status. They earned it! The same goes for the USAF OSI(Office of Special Investigstions) & the SF(Security Forces). ClydeFrog PS; I'm considering buying a 1911a1 & having it treated with green & gold to honor the upcoming 75th anniversary. www.Bearcoat.com |
March 4, 2013, 12:22 PM | #8 |
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Just throwing this out there:
How about a retired Military ID card w/your 214 giving your the MP MOS?
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March 4, 2013, 01:56 PM | #9 |
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MPs(31B) & CIDC agents should get LEOSA status. They earned it!The same goes for the USAF OSI(Office of Special Investigstions) & the SF(Security Forces).
They should enjoy the *exact same privileges* that every other citizen enjoys. No more, and no less. Willie . |
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