The Firing Line Forums

Go Back   The Firing Line Forums > Hogan's Alley > Handguns: The Semi-automatic Forum

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old March 13, 2020, 01:22 PM   #26
mellow_c
Senior Member
 
Join Date: January 7, 2008
Location: Colorado
Posts: 1,849
I’m gonna go out on a limb here and recommend an HK USP compact 9mm.

They are expensive new, see if you can find a decent deal online for a used one. If you get a good enough price it is likely it won’t depreciate much if at all.


They have good triggers, are accurate, hold their value well enough, lighter than all steel guns, and are similar in size to a glock 19. It’s a double/single action gun with a cocked and locked option.


Or. . . Just get a glock 19.

I think most people would enjoy shooting the HK over the Glock, just because of the feel.

I just wanted to recommend something different.

An M&P 2.0 compact would be a good one too. They have surprisingly nice triggers and are good reliable guns with a good feel and good price.


I’m having a hard time thinking of a light weight 9mm that would be a good financial investment.

I could definitely get on board with the prelock S&W idea!
As mentioned in a previous post, a nice P38 would be a good investment, but it’s not going to be as light as any of the three I mentioned.

Last edited by mellow_c; March 13, 2020 at 01:34 PM.
mellow_c is offline  
Old March 13, 2020, 01:57 PM   #27
stinkeypete
Senior Member
 
Join Date: July 22, 2010
Location: Madison, Wisconsin
Posts: 513
“Investment”- I’m not looking to make a profit, just have something that will be easy to sell at a good price in 10 years or trade for something else equally interesting. My family shoots guns, so if it’s in the safe, it gets shot.

I’ve owned about a dozen Ruger single actions over the years and finally settled on two. The others more than kept up with inflation. That’s the right way to do it.

The wrong way is to buy a ruger 10/22 and get custom barrels and stocks and trigger jobs before Rimfire Central was around to help, then sell off the project in frustration. No matter how much fussing you put in, it’s still just someone else’s project gun to someone else. But I learned. Last year I built up another 10/22 and this time knew a lot more about what I was doing and this outshoots my last attempt by inches and I’ll get my money back next squirrel season if I wanted to sell. (I don’t, shouldn’t everyone have a 10/2z?)

Well, you can buy someone else’s project gun, the one they can’t make run, and buy it from them when they throw up their hands in frustration. Tear the gun down and back to stock and sell all their do dads on EBay. Win.

Suggestions have been real good, thanks. Keep em coming. I’m making a list and educating myself.
stinkeypete is offline  
Old March 13, 2020, 02:25 PM   #28
2wheelwander
Senior Member
 
Join Date: January 9, 2018
Posts: 423
If you want to be $$ ahead, look at military surplus 9mm. I believe there is a Cuban boat load of Beretta 92's out there. Italian police/military trade in's are cheap and plentiful. Holster wear but barely shot.

Saying that, go for a CZ PCR, or an SP-01 if you want to put a light on it. Wonderful handguns.
2wheelwander is offline  
Old March 13, 2020, 04:25 PM   #29
Gas Bag
Member
 
Join Date: January 3, 2019
Posts: 23
Me personally, a Taurus .357 or 9mm, or .45, would be fine.
Gas Bag is offline  
Old March 13, 2020, 04:37 PM   #30
SHR970
Senior Member
 
Join Date: January 24, 2011
Posts: 1,309
Sig239 if you can find one for a decent price.
SHR970 is offline  
Old March 13, 2020, 07:18 PM   #31
rock185
Senior Member
 
Join Date: September 2, 2001
Location: Out West in Rim Country
Posts: 936
I would think things like the SIG X-5s, P210s, etc. might be a good bet. No trigger, reliability or accuracy work needed. The X-5s, and SWISS and German 210s seem to already have appreciated. And perhaps in 10 years or so, after SIG has discontinued it, one might at least recover most of his investment in an American 210. The HK P7 series has really appreciated, as as the FN/Browning HI Power in the relatively short time since production ceased. People routinely complain about the heavy trigger of the Hi Powers though. The earlier, out of production, S&W Performance Center Pistols have appreciated, sometimes to mind boggling levels.

On second thought, disregard all of the above. I own some of the guns I mentioned, so given my investment history, their value will undoubtedly drop to rock bottom within 10 years
__________________
COTEP 640, NRA Life
rock185 is offline  
Old March 13, 2020, 07:22 PM   #32
jar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: March 8, 2001
Location: Deep South Texas
Posts: 1,266
Lots of 2nd & 3rd Gen Smith Police Trade-ins out there right now. Good near indestructible guns at reasonable prices.
__________________
To be vintage it's gotta be older than me!
jar is offline  
Old March 13, 2020, 07:55 PM   #33
GarandTd
Senior Member
 
Join Date: June 15, 2016
Location: Western PA rainforests
Posts: 1,355
I think a Glock g19 or g48, a S&W M&P, Beretta or Taurus 92, CZ or TriStar/Canik of similar size....all are going to, at the very least, hold their value and perform well for you. Hitting cans at 25 yards is on you.
__________________
22lr, 20 gauge, 8mm Mauser, 35 Remington, 30-06, 5.56x45/223, 9mm, 380acp
GarandTd is offline  
Old March 13, 2020, 08:57 PM   #34
44caliberkid
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 15, 2017
Location: Iowa
Posts: 421
Just to be odd man out, a like new in the box, Smith and Wesson Model 39 or 59. You can still get them for around $600 or less, and I feel they are due to appreciate in the near future.
44caliberkid is offline  
Old March 13, 2020, 10:12 PM   #35
Cheapshooter
Senior Member
 
Join Date: December 2, 2007
Location: Missouri
Posts: 8,198
Quote:
I’m not looking to make a profit, just have something that will be easy to sell at a good price in 10 years or trade for something else equally interesting.
Well, that's your first problem right there!
__________________
Cheapshooter's rules of gun ownership #1: NEVER SELL OR TRADE ANYTHING!
Cheapshooter is offline  
Old March 13, 2020, 10:31 PM   #36
Cheapshooter
Senior Member
 
Join Date: December 2, 2007
Location: Missouri
Posts: 8,198
Now, disregarding the "investment" criteria another option for what seems to be your ever changing taste. The Sig P320. Which comes in sizes from sub-compact to full size. With a couple stops inbetween. My own carry gun is the Sig P320 Carry. An hybrid of the compact (G19 size) slide and barrel with the full size (17+1 capacity) frame.
But the interesting part for your ever changing tastes, the "gun", the serial numbered part, is the fire control modual. So you go through the 4473, NICS background check, and what ever other red tape one time. Then add grip frames, barrels, sliding s, and magazines when ever you want to change from a full sized range blaster to a compact carry gun to a sub-compact deep er concealment piece.
As aside, and addressing another concern you mentioned, the trigger is pretty sweet right out of the box.
__________________
Cheapshooter's rules of gun ownership #1: NEVER SELL OR TRADE ANYTHING!
Cheapshooter is offline  
Old March 14, 2020, 11:36 AM   #37
rc
Senior Member
 
Join Date: April 28, 2001
Location: CA
Posts: 871
Kimber 9mm 1911s are great shooters and a decent investment too.
rc is offline  
Old March 14, 2020, 12:09 PM   #38
O4L
Senior Member
 
Join Date: September 16, 2015
Posts: 620
I would recommend finding a good deal on a slightly used Glock gen5. The G19 is a good fit for many but I personally prefer the longer grip of the G17 or G45.

I picked up my last one for $450 with night sights and four mags. I see them for sale often around here.

A Glock trigger is not great but not bad. I haven't ever had a problem with stock triggers on them or the M&Ps. YMMV.
O4L is offline  
Old March 14, 2020, 03:09 PM   #39
Onward Allusion
Senior Member
 
Join Date: November 17, 2009
Location: Back in a Non-Free State
Posts: 2,880
Financial investment? None on your list.

Personally, I'd get a S&W 6906 as an "investment".
__________________
Simple as ABC . . . Always Be Carrying
Onward Allusion is offline  
Old March 14, 2020, 04:08 PM   #40
TunnelRat
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 22, 2011
Posts: 10,263
Most things current production aren’t going to appreciate unless they go out of production. By production I don’t include smaller batch custom firearms. I know a few have mentioned the second and third Gen S&W pistols. Idk. I owned a few over the past 9 years and the prices now don’t seem that different. S&W also stopped officially supporting them so parts are getting a bit harder to find. They’re very robust so it likely won’t be a problem, but for a pistol I intend to shoot a lot that is a bit of a negative for me personally.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
TunnelRat is offline  
Old March 14, 2020, 05:16 PM   #41
osbornk
Senior Member
 
Join Date: August 11, 2012
Location: Mountains of Appalachia
Posts: 1,580
I don't think anything you are going to carry and shoot on a regular basis will maintain or increase in value. I obviously didn't consider resale value when I bought my 4 handguns chambered in 9MM as they are S&W, Ria, Taurus and SCCY. They are affordable guns that have never malfunctioned and accurate. Buy what you like to shoot at a good price and don't worry about it. Anyway, whatever you buy may not be desirable in 10 years due to the popularity or if there is a recall or bad press on it.
osbornk is offline  
Old March 14, 2020, 08:57 PM   #42
JohnKSa
Staff
 
Join Date: February 12, 2001
Location: DFW Area
Posts: 22,970
If you want a gun to carry, pick the one that fits your carry/reliability requirements the best and make sure it's good quality from a reputable maker.

It should hold its value reasonably well, but more importantly, you will have it with you if you need it and it will work for you if you need to draw.

If you want to buy a gun as an investment, that's an entirely different requirement. I can't think of any firearm I would buy as an investment that I would want to carry. For one thing, most of them aren't really great options for carry. Second, anytime you carry a gun, you risk damaging it, or even losing it.
__________________
Do you know about the TEXAS State Rifle Association?
JohnKSa is offline  
Old March 14, 2020, 09:12 PM   #43
stinkeypete
Senior Member
 
Join Date: July 22, 2010
Location: Madison, Wisconsin
Posts: 513
ANYONE that loses a firearm should be horsewhipped. Exceptions made for police and military in extreme extreme circumstances.
stinkeypete is offline  
Old March 14, 2020, 09:15 PM   #44
JohnKSa
Staff
 
Join Date: February 12, 2001
Location: DFW Area
Posts: 22,970
I'm not talking about carelessness. If you need to actually use it, it could be confiscated. And there are other situations under which it could be lost to you.

IMO, you're working too hard to try to make this work and too hard to dismiss/discount anything that doesn't fit your preconceived notions of how this is going to work out for you.

Investments are investments--you choose them for their resale value and protect their condition so they won't lose value.

Items you buy to use are selected based on their utility and it's accepted that during their normal use they will accumulate wear--perhaps even be worn out, possibly be damaged, and maybe even be destroyed or lost.

The two things are rarely compatible.
__________________
Do you know about the TEXAS State Rifle Association?
JohnKSa is offline  
Old March 14, 2020, 10:49 PM   #45
Dan-O
Senior Member
 
Join Date: August 3, 2011
Location: Northern Colorado
Posts: 914
At this point the best investment you can make is toilet paper.

Just buy a used glock and call it a day
Dan-O is offline  
Old March 15, 2020, 10:47 AM   #46
tallball
Senior Member
 
Join Date: October 17, 2014
Posts: 2,395
"Of course if you can get a smoking deal on a nice condition used pistol of your choice that can minimize possible depreciation over time."


I agree. For instance, I got one of those surplus Beretta 81's for $199. It's in excellent condition. It will probably be worth more than that in ten years.

Any nice surplus handgun that you get in good shape is likely to increase in value once the supply dries up, IMHO.
tallball is offline  
Old March 15, 2020, 11:46 AM   #47
seeker_two
Senior Member
 
Join Date: August 31, 2002
Location: Deep in the Heart of the Lone Star State (TX)
Posts: 2,167
I would recommend a 9mm 1911 or Browning (or FM or Tisas) Hi-Power. Those guns will grow moderately in value yet still be useful for your needs.

Sent from my SM-G892A using Tapatalk
seeker_two is offline  
Old March 15, 2020, 12:05 PM   #48
MarkCO
Senior Member
 
Join Date: October 21, 1998
Location: Colorado, USA
Posts: 2,875
Guns are tools, not financial investments.

There are a scant few guns whose value has risen faster than just a common mutual fund.

If you want a good 9mm handgun, Glocks and CZs are both really good choices that will last a long time.
__________________
Good Shooting, MarkCO
www.CarbonArms.us
MarkCO is offline  
Old March 16, 2020, 08:09 AM   #49
Skans
Senior Member
 
Join Date: November 20, 2008
Posts: 10,933
I would agree with 2nd Gen S&W's. You can find them in 98% condition for $400. Lots of parts still out there, not that you'll need them. I've had my S&W 659 since the late 1980's. I would never sell it. It shoots everything, is reasonably accurate and has been 100% reliable. Never broke a part on it.
Skans is offline  
Old March 16, 2020, 01:53 PM   #50
TBM900
Senior Member
 
Join Date: November 2, 2015
Posts: 583
Barring some sort of zombie apocalypse type panic, none of those will hold/appreciate in value, nor will any other similar modern pistol.

Me personally, I would take a Steyr L9 over any of those listed, and most everything you didn’t list.
__________________
Queen of England
Retired Colonial Marine
14th Earl to walk on the moon
TBM900 is offline  
Reply

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:33 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2020, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
This site and contents, including all posts, Copyright © 1998-2018 S.W.A.T. Magazine
Copyright Complaints: Please direct DMCA Takedown Notices to the registered agent: thefiringline.com
Contact Us
Page generated in 0.09546 seconds with 8 queries