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Old February 26, 2020, 06:10 PM   #1
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I just saw this thing.

Had to Google to make sure it was real.



It is. or WAS...

Sheesh.

Sterling PPL .22 auto.

Wait...wait.. WAIT.... it's a .380
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Old February 26, 2020, 06:39 PM   #2
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Personally, I like the PPK a bit better when it comes to compact, all metal, straight blowback .380 pistols.

It's a neat-looking gun though, reminds me of the Ruger Mark I. A snubnose Mark I, that is.
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Old February 26, 2020, 07:20 PM   #3
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Aw c'mon.. The PPK isn't nearly as purdy as this thing.
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Old February 26, 2020, 07:37 PM   #4
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To me, it looks like it has a High Standard Model HD or 101 in it's family tree
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Old February 26, 2020, 07:45 PM   #5
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It also resembles the H&R self-loading .25 ACP.

Edit: The H&R doesn't even pretend to have sights.
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Old February 26, 2020, 08:46 PM   #6
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Huh. I kind of dig it, although it doesn't look even remotely like a practical design. How much effective length does that barrel have, exactly?
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Old February 26, 2020, 09:13 PM   #7
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Sterling pistols of this type were copies of the Hi Standard pistols.
These were made after GCA-68, when there was a dearth of pocket pistols.
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Old February 26, 2020, 10:23 PM   #8
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Never seen such a thing but I like it. Certainly High Standardesque. So weird looking if I saw one at a reasonable price I'd buy it just for fun.
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Old February 26, 2020, 10:23 PM   #9
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I wonder if the instructions said, "In case of misfire, remove cartridge and throw it?"

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Old February 26, 2020, 10:53 PM   #10
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To me, it looks like it has a High Standard Model HD or 101 in it's family tree
Yup, looks like an HD that Bubba took a hacksaw to!
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Old February 27, 2020, 07:34 PM   #11
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How much effective length does that barrel have, exactly?
Good question. I'm betting it has less than an inch of rifling engagement area. I don't remember where, but I recall reading that it was thought (or assumed?) that lower pressured revolver rounds such as .38SPL, .38S&W, all the .32's of old only needed an inch of rifling to stabilize the bullet. I'm thinking a Sterling engineer said "Hmm, hold my beer, let's see what happens."
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Old February 27, 2020, 07:50 PM   #12
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I don't remember where, but I recall reading that it was thought (or assumed?) that lower pressured revolver rounds such as .38SPL, .38S&W, all the .32's of old only needed an inch of rifling to stabilize the bullet.
Yeah, well, clearly that doesn't apply to the .380. having been intrigued, I found an old, archived review of a Sterling. It was evidently having massive keyhole problems...
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Old February 27, 2020, 08:34 PM   #13
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Had to Google to make sure it was real.


It is. or WAS...

Sheesh.

Sterling PPL .22 auto.

Wait...wait.. WAIT.... it's a .380
I'd call it a Zero.
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Old February 28, 2020, 05:40 PM   #14
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With about effectively ONE INCH of bullet travel, I'd expect this monstrosity to keyhole.
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Old March 5, 2020, 11:10 AM   #15
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Had to Google to make sure it was real.



It is. or WAS...

Sheesh.

Sterling PPL .22 auto.

Wait...wait.. WAIT.... it's a .380
Pocket pistol eh? Wonder how long it takes to unsnag the hammer, rear sight and most likely the front sight, from the pockets liner? By the time one were to get it out, you'd probably have three or four holes in your shirt from the bad guy.
Yah! "Zero" seems appropriate.
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Old March 5, 2020, 03:18 PM   #16
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Hey thanks Lavan for posting something really different.

This is quite the hobby we have here!
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Old March 24, 2020, 07:33 PM   #17
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If the riflings were in good shape I'd expect it would not keyhole, it only takes a few hundredths of an inch to get the bullet rotating.
Which reminds me of something someone said, I'd like to know where it's in print if it is, that Walther engineers responded to a statement that pistol barrels had to be perfectly straight to be accurate, so they made a pistol with a barrel like a corkscrew that was accurate. I assume the spiral was very slight but it makes sense assuming the sights were set up to the exit direction.
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It also resembles the H&R self-loading .25 ACP.

Edit: The H&R doesn't even pretend to have sights.
It don't need no stinking sights!
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Old March 25, 2020, 07:03 AM   #19
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I know your joking but - don't discount not using sights.

People like - t Dwight D. Eisenhower, Henry Ford II, John Wayne, Audie Murphy, all learned point shooting under the instruction of one Bobby Lamar "Lucky" McDaniel.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucky_McDaniel

Excellent read - about both a largely forgotten technique and man
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Old March 26, 2020, 06:24 PM   #20
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I suppose little .22’s were a thing. That has a lot of High Standard in its genetics. It looks like a .22. I would not have guessed it’s a .380.

First gun I ever took off a bad guy. 1985 or so. As soon as I saw it, I knew it was stolen. It was.

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Old March 26, 2020, 07:23 PM   #21
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I had a Sterling 22. I paid $50.00. It was a conventional blow back 6 or 7 shot. Safety, no firing pin block. It fit in an ankle holster. I liked that gun but moved on to center fire for SD.

Sterling was made in Lockport NY. I know people that worked there. They made more than the fugly one in the first post.

The company went under. A girl was baby sitting. her boyfriend came over. He found the sterling 22. He removed the magazine, pointed the gun at the little boy and pulled the trigger. Boy was crippled for life. In a court case the company lost because the gun did not have a magazine safety. Look it up.

My shop is in Lockport. They have not been making guns for a long time. There is still a machine shop.

Mine looked like this. My dad had one too. Groove for sight.

https://www.threegunnuts.com/products/765

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