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Old January 30, 2020, 11:51 AM   #51
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A steel core belt solves my CC issues.

it took a bit of getting used to but now my Shield9 (OWB) is a joy to carry and a G23(OWB) is doable for at least 6hrs at a time.


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For a gun to be a "carry gun", you need to be able to carry it all day. That includes long days and difficult days. Being out and about, you might not be in a position to take it off and leave it.

I know this situation very well from shoulder carry. Am I too hot? Do I want to take off my cover garment? Not an option. So plan ahead. Once you step out of your house, you are committed to your choice of carry.
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Old January 30, 2020, 12:33 PM   #52
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Can’t find a comfortable carry solution for OWB carry.

Yes but I’m retired so I don’t need to put in a long day, I carry every time I leave the house and while at home I pocket carry.

I find the Shield9 a suitable choice for running to town for shopping, my G23 is my church security gun and most Sundays I put it on at 7:00 and take it off when I get home about 1:00pm

I believe in KISS for CC, that means a level 1 retention kydex OWB holster and on rare occasions a leather IWB.

There’s a lot of gimmicks being marketed to gun guys who struggle with carry and that’s why it seems the popular belief of a box full of holsters is the norm.

Not me I buy 2 holsters per carry gun, OWB, IWB money is better spent on a good leather/steel belt than gimmicks.


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Old February 16, 2020, 10:34 AM   #53
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I spent the last 15 years of my LE career as a Detective and carried concealed daily a SIG P220, .45 ACP, which is not small. I used an EL Paso Saddlery "Street Combat. This is an extremely well made pancake holster that is still well under $100. For a belt I used either a 1.5 inch Helweg stitched leather (black) or a Bianchi 1.5 inch Stitched leather belt (brown). I still use both and they are both over 25 years old.
In retirement now, I carry a 642 either in my RF Pocket (preferred) or in a JIT on my belt at 3 o'clock. If I take a long trip in my car I use an upside down shoulder holster.
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Old May 28, 2020, 11:03 AM   #54
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I spent the last 15 years of my LE career as a Detective and carried concealed daily a SIG P220, .45 ACP, which is not small. I used an EL Paso Saddlery "Street Combat. This is an extremely well made pancake holster that is still well under $100. For a belt I used either a 1.5 inch Helweg stitched leather (black) or a Bianchi 1.5 inch Stitched leather belt (brown). I still use both and they are both over 25 years old.
In retirement now, I carry a 642 either in my RF Pocket (preferred) or in a JIT on my belt at 3 o'clock. If I take a long trip in my car I use an upside down shoulder holster.

Forgive me, I’m just now seeing that there was two more responses to this thread but anywhoo to give an update, I think I’m just pretty much to the conclusion that with any belt to just even hold my pants up, I just don’t have the right body shape or something because just to even use a regular belt I still have to have it excessively tight in my opinion so as soon as it comes in, I bought an elastic webbing belt that’s real similar to the slide buckle as my Grip6 belt just to see if I can still have a belt pretty tight but something that’s going to actually move with my body when I go from standing up to sitting down or vice a versa. So with that said, I don’t really think there is a traditional belt out there that would do me any good for any case because I just simply have to have it too uncomfortably tight to do what it supposed to and is just too uncomfortable.

When winter time comes back around I can still wear either my kore essentials slide gun belt or maybe even my Volund gearworks gun belt with my dress jeans I wear casually because I won’t be sitting down all day long like when I’m at work sitting at this truck for upwards of 12 hours at a time. But when I’m at work, I’m afraid that my only choice to comfortably carry my pistol is in the pocket holster.


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Old May 28, 2020, 01:50 PM   #55
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if a belt isn't doing the job of holding your pants up, why not add suspenders?
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Old May 28, 2020, 04:53 PM   #56
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if a belt isn't doing the job of holding your pants up, why not add suspenders?

Well, that certainly may be the direction I’m headed if the new elastic belt I bought doesn’t keep me comfortable being cinched down tight enough to hold my pants up.


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Old May 28, 2020, 10:01 PM   #57
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I agree, suspenders are the way to go, especially if your belly is bigger than your hips and butt. I don't see how an elastic belt will ever keep your pants up while packing OWB or IWB or even pocket carry.

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Old May 28, 2020, 10:45 PM   #58
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I agree, suspenders are the way to go, especially if your belly is bigger than your hips and butt. I don't see how an elastic belt will ever keep your pants up while packing OWB or IWB or even pocket carry.

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The elastic belt is just hopefully to cure the the issue I have even when I’m not carrying. I wouldn’t dare use an elastic belt for OWB carry. As far as pocket carry, that’s no different from anything else that’s in my pockets- wallet, pocket knife.... cell phone.


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Old May 29, 2020, 03:47 PM   #59
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The elastic belt is just hopefully to cure the the issue I have even when I’m not carrying. I wouldn’t dare use an elastic belt for OWB carry. As far as pocket carry, that’s no different from anything else that’s in my pockets- wallet, pocket knife.... cell phone.


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Gotcha. Adding a loaded pistol to the pockets would certainly weigh more the the other stuff. As an avowed suspenders-wearer with a bigger gut than hips/butt I highly recommend them, the Dickies brand that hook under a good gun belt.

I don't have to cinch the belt to keep my drawers up and comfortable over a tank undershirt and under whatever shirt I wear. I don't tuck my outer shirts in anyway, so no problem there. I always carry IWB but should be just as doable with OWB. I carried a 1911 that way for years and now pack an HK VP9 or snub revolver; occasionally but rarely, a Browning Hi Power

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