000 buck any better than 00?

Shin-Tao · October 14, 2001, 10:32 AM

Just grabbed a box of 000buck from Wal-Mart. Is there any advantage rangewise to 000?

Dave McC · October 14, 2001, 11:23 AM

A qualified maybe. The slightly bigger pellets may retain energy better, but my guts tell me it's more a theoretical advantage than an actual one.

The big question is, "How does it pattern?".

No buckshot is a long range load.

1911A1 fan · October 15, 2001, 02:21 AM

It depends on the gun. With my Win. Defender with 000 patterns better than 00, but the Rem 870 that I used to have it was 00 all the way. Pattern with both and stay with the best one.

Rob62 · October 15, 2001, 08:33 AM

I really like the 12ga. 2.75", 8 pellet 000 load over the 9 pellet 00 buck shot loading. My theory is that there is one less pellet that may be "thrown" off target if something goes wrong.

Not a great reason to switch over totally from 00 but it works for me. (I actually still use 00 buckshot loads more than 000 loads) It a coin toss over which ones I get. If both are the same price or close then I go with the 00.

Like Dave, I'm a huge 870 fan and find that my 870 with 18" cylinder barrel patterns both loads about the same.

As to the ballistics. Here's some quick numbers I ran.
000 buck is .36" in dia and weighs in at about 70.5 grs per pellet

00 buck is .33" in dia and weighs in at about 54.7 grs per pellet

At 1,200 FPS these loads produce 225 and 175 FT LBS of energy per pellet.

Rob

Shin-Tao · October 15, 2001, 11:29 AM

So far it doesn't look like their is a huge differance, but I think I'll do some more experamenting with the 000.

Dave McC · October 15, 2001, 02:13 PM

It's worth a try, Shin. It's possibly the tightest patterning and effective load of its type. Only range testing can determine that.

Let us know, will you? Thanks...

CWL · October 16, 2001, 01:37 PM

I like them but have never needed them for real.

They pattern well for my Beretta 1201fp & Rem. 870 Marine Mag.

I use Federal Tactical reduced loads from www.ammoman.com.
they aren't as punishing and I like the idea of bigger, heavier pellets. I know it's unscientific but for me, "bigger holes = more pain"

Beowulf · October 16, 2001, 03:59 PM

CWL,

I'm a little confused by your reply. Is "OOO" not bigger than "OO"? Beacuse from what I have seen the Fed. Tactical is all "OO" Buckshot.

B.

9mmMike · October 16, 2001, 05:21 PM

I have Fed. Tactical in 00, 000 & #4. I also get mine from www.ammoman.com .
Mike

Beowulf · October 16, 2001, 06:01 PM

9mmMike - I learn something new every day. I didn't know the tactical came in anything other than OO.

October 14, 2001, 10:32 AM	#1
Shin-Tao Senior Member Join Date: January 27, 2000 Posts: 1,528	000 buck any better than 00? Just grabbed a box of 000buck from Wal-Mart. Is there any advantage rangewise to 000? __________________ SPQR

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Shin-Tao Senior Member Join Date: January 27, 2000 Posts: 1,528	So far it doesn't look like their is a huge differance, but I think I'll do some more experamenting with the 000. __________________ SPQR

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October 14, 2001, 11:23 AM	#2
Dave McC Staff In Memoriam Join Date: October 13, 1999 Location: Columbia, Md, USA Posts: 8,811	A qualified maybe. The slightly bigger pellets may retain energy better, but my guts tell me it's more a theoretical advantage than an actual one. The big question is, "How does it pattern?". No buckshot is a long range load.

October 15, 2001, 02:21 AM	#3
1911A1 fan Senior Member Join Date: August 26, 2001 Posts: 155	It depends on the gun. With my Win. Defender with 000 patterns better than 00, but the Rem 870 that I used to have it was 00 all the way. Pattern with both and stay with the best one.

October 15, 2001, 08:33 AM	#4
Rob62 Senior Member Join Date: June 28, 1999 Location: Georgia, USA Posts: 560	I really like the 12ga. 2.75", 8 pellet 000 load over the 9 pellet 00 buck shot loading. My theory is that there is one less pellet that may be "thrown" off target if something goes wrong. Not a great reason to switch over totally from 00 but it works for me. (I actually still use 00 buckshot loads more than 000 loads) It a coin toss over which ones I get. If both are the same price or close then I go with the 00. Like Dave, I'm a huge 870 fan and find that my 870 with 18" cylinder barrel patterns both loads about the same. As to the ballistics. Here's some quick numbers I ran. 000 buck is .36" in dia and weighs in at about 70.5 grs per pellet 00 buck is .33" in dia and weighs in at about 54.7 grs per pellet At 1,200 FPS these loads produce 225 and 175 FT LBS of energy per pellet. Rob __________________ NRA & NAHC Life Member

October 15, 2001, 02:13 PM	#6
Dave McC Staff In Memoriam Join Date: October 13, 1999 Location: Columbia, Md, USA Posts: 8,811	It's worth a try, Shin. It's possibly the tightest patterning and effective load of its type. Only range testing can determine that. Let us know, will you? Thanks...

October 16, 2001, 01:37 PM	#7
CWL Senior Member Join Date: May 23, 2001 Location: Bay Area, CA Posts: 1,576	I like them but have never needed them for real. They pattern well for my Beretta 1201fp & Rem. 870 Marine Mag. I use Federal Tactical reduced loads from www.ammoman.com. they aren't as punishing and I like the idea of bigger, heavier pellets. I know it's unscientific but for me, "bigger holes = more pain"

October 16, 2001, 03:59 PM	#8
Beowulf Member Join Date: February 2, 2001 Posts: 39	CWL, I'm a little confused by your reply. Is "OOO" not bigger than "OO"? Beacuse from what I have seen the Fed. Tactical is all "OO" Buckshot. B.

October 16, 2001, 06:01 PM	#10
Beowulf Member Join Date: February 2, 2001 Posts: 39	9mmMike - I learn something new every day. I didn't know the tactical came in anything other than OO.