M1895 Nagant Revolver! - Page 2

Wildalaska · August 26, 2010, 10:38 PM

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If I reloaded I'd go that route too. I feel like if you just discard the last 1/8th inch of the brass that just serves as a gas seal and reload them to look like regular rounds the brass would last longer.

Close. 1.490 with the bullett seated deep into the case and a crimp on the end gives you a gas seal.

Thats all you need, a light load and that careful trim

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the rifleer · August 26, 2010, 10:59 PM

Are these usually available at guns shows? Specifically Southern California? I've been to two gun shows and have never paid any attention to them. I would like to have one to go with my mosin nagant m44. I know my local gun shop has a pair, but they want $250!!!!:barf:

SigP6Carry · August 26, 2010, 11:41 PM

I don't think J&G would sell to Cali, as I doubt it's an approved firearm.

But the 1895 is a blackpowder revolver, through and through. Base on early 1870's Belgian revolvers with a proprietary gas seal system that made it unique. But, same as the 1873 Colt that prefaced it, it's a good and solid design that survived many more years than it should have. I consider it the European version of the Colt Peacemaker. Being that it's from Europe, it fires a smaller and under powered round.

the rifleer · August 27, 2010, 01:13 AM

Its a completely legal revolver in CA. That was not my question. CA is fairly strict about semi autos, but revolvers and manually operated rifles are fine. My question remains; is it a common find at a gun show?

PS- I have bought ammo from JG sales, but not guns. They ship it with out a problem, although buying a gun and buying ammo is two different things.

Wildalaska · August 27, 2010, 01:54 AM

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I consider it the European version of the Colt Peacemaker.

FWIW, its sturdier than an SAA,

The European version of the Colt is the Webley.

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Berry's MfG · August 30, 2010, 12:31 PM

Those were .312" bullets we made for Graf & Sons

Wildalaska · August 30, 2010, 03:32 PM

They work great!

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James K · August 30, 2010, 08:41 PM

A number of years ago there was a story about some international pistol competition. The only two serious competitors were the Russians and the Americans. The Russians showed up for practice with Nagant revolvers and did reasonably well, though the Americans could hardly suppress their amusement at the idea of competing with those antiques. But the Russians just kept on practicing.

On match day, the Russians showed up, as usual, with their battered old pistol cases. Then they pulled out brand new S&W K-38's and promptly proceeded to clean the Americans' clocks. The practice with the Nagants was a show, purely to "psych out" the competition and get them over-confident. Maybe our diplomats could learn a bit from that episode about dealing with the Russians.

Jim

SigP6Carry · August 31, 2010, 11:16 AM

I'm gonna have to keep my eye out for bullets of that size. Definitely the most informative source of info on these beauties is right here on this forum.

SigP6Carry · September 9, 2010, 08:19 PM

rifleer, I'm sorry, I forgot about your question! Terrible me! But, yeah, I've been to two gunshows in my life. One where I cared, one for extra credit in a history class in highschool (best teacher ever in retrospect, have an Enfield 1853 in his classroom, got accosted by the police when he retired for carrying it to his car!). I saw a ton of Nagant revolvers for REALLY high prices, and I mean high. One guy was trying to sell one for $350. The cheapest was around $120. I KNOW you'll find them at gunshows, but... for what price is the question.

Jim Keenan, I always love the crazy stories you tell. Love that one.

Sorry for resing a dead thread.

noelf2 · September 10, 2010, 07:41 AM

AIM Surplus has them for under $100.

here

Hardcase · September 10, 2010, 10:09 AM

What about casting bullets for this round? I have a few boxes of whatever it is that J&G sells, which is jacketed. Is there a cast bullet that would work?

gandog56 · September 11, 2010, 02:29 PM

I would think just about anything in .32 cal could be made to work.

johnm1 · September 15, 2010, 11:46 PM

Wild,

What size/type of shell holder are you using? Everything I have tried won't hold the shell reliably.

August 26, 2010, 10:59 PM	#27
the rifleer Senior Member Join Date: March 5, 2008 Location: Sunny California Posts: 1,281	Are these usually available at guns shows? Specifically Southern California? I've been to two gun shows and have never paid any attention to them. I would like to have one to go with my mosin nagant m44. I know my local gun shop has a pair, but they want $250!!!!:barf: __________________ There is no such thing as a stupid question, only stupid people.

August 26, 2010, 11:41 PM	#28
SigP6Carry Senior Member Join Date: August 27, 2009 Posts: 1,086	I don't think J&G would sell to Cali, as I doubt it's an approved firearm. But the 1895 is a blackpowder revolver, through and through. Base on early 1870's Belgian revolvers with a proprietary gas seal system that made it unique. But, same as the 1873 Colt that prefaced it, it's a good and solid design that survived many more years than it should have. I consider it the European version of the Colt Peacemaker. Being that it's from Europe, it fires a smaller and under powered round. __________________ -liberal gun nut = exception to the rule- -1.24274238 miles, because Russians don't need scopes- -Gun control was the Klan's favorite law, how can you advocate a set of laws designed to allow the denigration of a people?-

August 27, 2010, 01:13 AM	#29
the rifleer Senior Member Join Date: March 5, 2008 Location: Sunny California Posts: 1,281	Its a completely legal revolver in CA. That was not my question. CA is fairly strict about semi autos, but revolvers and manually operated rifles are fine. My question remains; is it a common find at a gun show? PS- I have bought ammo from JG sales, but not guns. They ship it with out a problem, although buying a gun and buying ammo is two different things. __________________ There is no such thing as a stupid question, only stupid people.

August 30, 2010, 12:31 PM	#31
Berry's MfG Senior Member Join Date: June 7, 2010 Location: St. George, UT Posts: 122	Those were .312" bullets we made for Graf & Sons __________________ Jay R. Phillips Berry's MFG www.berrysmfg.com/products.aspx?n=57958

August 31, 2010, 11:16 AM	#34
SigP6Carry Senior Member Join Date: August 27, 2009 Posts: 1,086	I'm gonna have to keep my eye out for bullets of that size. Definitely the most informative source of info on these beauties is right here on this forum. __________________ -liberal gun nut = exception to the rule- -1.24274238 miles, because Russians don't need scopes- -Gun control was the Klan's favorite law, how can you advocate a set of laws designed to allow the denigration of a people?-

August 30, 2010, 03:32 PM	#32
Wildalaska Junior member Join Date: November 25, 2002 Location: In my own little weird world in Anchorage, Alaska Posts: 14,172	They work great! WildsellthemAlaska ™©2002-2010

August 30, 2010, 08:41 PM	#33
James K Member In Memoriam Join Date: March 17, 1999 Posts: 24,383	A number of years ago there was a story about some international pistol competition. The only two serious competitors were the Russians and the Americans. The Russians showed up for practice with Nagant revolvers and did reasonably well, though the Americans could hardly suppress their amusement at the idea of competing with those antiques. But the Russians just kept on practicing. On match day, the Russians showed up, as usual, with their battered old pistol cases. Then they pulled out brand new S&W K-38's and promptly proceeded to clean the Americans' clocks. The practice with the Nagants was a show, purely to "psych out" the competition and get them over-confident. Maybe our diplomats could learn a bit from that episode about dealing with the Russians. Jim

September 9, 2010, 08:19 PM	#35
SigP6Carry Senior Member Join Date: August 27, 2009 Posts: 1,086	rifleer, I'm sorry, I forgot about your question! Terrible me! But, yeah, I've been to two gunshows in my life. One where I cared, one for extra credit in a history class in highschool (best teacher ever in retrospect, have an Enfield 1853 in his classroom, got accosted by the police when he retired for carrying it to his car!). I saw a ton of Nagant revolvers for REALLY high prices, and I mean high. One guy was trying to sell one for $350. The cheapest was around $120. I KNOW you'll find them at gunshows, but... for what price is the question. Jim Keenan, I always love the crazy stories you tell. Love that one. Sorry for resing a dead thread. __________________ -liberal gun nut = exception to the rule- -1.24274238 miles, because Russians don't need scopes- -Gun control was the Klan's favorite law, how can you advocate a set of laws designed to allow the denigration of a people?-

September 10, 2010, 07:41 AM	#36
noelf2 Senior Member Join Date: April 14, 2008 Location: Stuart, VA Posts: 2,473	AIM Surplus has them for under $100. here __________________ Liberty and freedom often offends those who understand neither.

September 10, 2010, 10:09 AM	#37
Hardcase Senior Member Join Date: April 14, 2009 Location: Sunny Southern Idaho Posts: 1,909	What about casting bullets for this round? I have a few boxes of whatever it is that J&G sells, which is jacketed. Is there a cast bullet that would work? __________________ Well we don't rent pigs and I figure it's better to say it right out front because a man that does like to rent pigs is... he's hard to stop - Gus McCrae

September 11, 2010, 02:29 PM	#38
gandog56 Senior Member Join Date: May 31, 2006 Location: Mobile, Alabama Posts: 979	I would think just about anything in .32 cal could be made to work. __________________ Some people think I'm paranoid because I have guns. If I have guns, what do I have to be paranoid about?

September 15, 2010, 11:46 PM	#39
johnm1 Senior Member Join Date: November 26, 2006 Location: Mesa, AZ Posts: 652	What size shell holder? Wild, What size/type of shell holder are you using? Everything I have tried won't hold the shell reliably. __________________ John M. Mesa, AZ