Type 24 Mauser repairation

UserOfMosins · May 30, 2018, 05:51 PM

Hey guys

I bought a Chiang Kai-Shek rifle yesterday and it was in overall condition. The wood was okay, the metal had minor pitting along the woodline and the metal just needed some Hopps/steel wool treatment to clean up.

Upon disassembling the bolt after fiddling with it for a little bit (its based upon the Standard Modell bolt that I couldnt find a diagram for)
I found that the firing pin was broken, or at least appeared to be,l. The "break" looks too clean to be an actual break. I know some of these rifles were made in villages and certain liberties were taken. I was wondering if anyone could tell me if the bolt needs to be replaced (and if its interchangeable with other mauser parts), if its repairable, or if I'm just an idiot! Thanks!

Tidewater_Kid · May 31, 2018, 08:41 AM

I am not familiar with these rifles, but that looks like a creative way to fix a broken firing pin. Numrich lists complete bolts, but no firing pins in stock.
https://www.gunpartscorp.com/gun-man...hiang-kai-shek

**4V50 Gary** · May 31, 2018, 09:03 AM

Looks broke to me. Have it soldered back together but if you want a shooter, buy a new striker. BTW, that doesn't look like any Mauser 98 striker I have ever seen.

UserOfMosins · May 31, 2018, 11:14 AM

The striker is what threw me off. It disassembles different from any 98 or 98k that i've seen. Thats why im hoping to go the repair route

**4V50 Gary** · June 1, 2018, 12:58 AM

Low temp, hi force solder. But I'd still get a new one for use.

tangolima · June 1, 2018, 01:25 AM

Retipping firing pin is a routine method to repair old guns with hard-to-find parts. I did more than a few myself.

Low temp solder suffices. It is mainly to keep the tip in place and to deliver force to retract the tip from the bolt face when the action is worked.

I love to have a Chiang Kai Shek Mauser. Unfortunately the ones I have looked at all have their barrels shot out long ago. I bought a hanyang 88 and thought it had a decent bore. 8mm bullet dropped right through.

-TL

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J.G. Terry · June 1, 2018, 05:14 AM

The firing pin assembly is unusual. There are some differences in the bolt. Would it be possible to give other pictures and disassembly. Many years ago we had some of these rifle from China. There was a mixture of FN's, German made rifles and those made in China. Those Chinese rifles were basically faithful copies of the Standard Modell. These guns were in NRA wrecked condition.

J.G. Terry · June 1, 2018, 03:43 PM

Manchurian or Muken Mauser: The rifles had features of the 98 Mauser and the Japanese rifles. If you have one, check out the asking price of these rifles. Be sitting down when when you get some numbers.

Suggestion: Other than a gentle cleaning leave the rifle be.

UserOfMosins · June 2, 2018, 09:43 AM

Hey thanks man!! Thats what the rifle was listed for in the store but i think its just a type 24! If you want to take a look i just uploaded the pics!!

J.G. Terry · June 2, 2018, 09:51 AM

This history of this rare rifle is given on the net. What gave a clue here was the firing pin and bolt body. If you could post a picture of the rifle and top of the receiver would be helpful. Got "my fingers crossed" for you. Let us know the outcome of your search.

UserOfMosins · June 2, 2018, 10:44 AM

They should have uploaded by now! I think i've determined that its a 41st arsenal type 24, but i would love to have it checked by a pro!

J.G. Terry · June 2, 2018, 11:11 AM

I would be good to have the rifle checked by knowledgeable collector or source. It may be hidden but the bolt sleeve does not appear to have a lock. There are many changes in the bolt alone. Point being there are many differences shown that suggest that it would be wise to do further research.

UserOfMosins · June 2, 2018, 11:55 AM

Will do! Much appreciated Mr. Terry! Will update you if i find anything new.

May 30, 2018, 05:51 PM	#1
UserOfMosins Junior Member Join Date: November 27, 2014 Location: Georgia Posts: 10	Type 24 Mauser repairation Hey guys I bought a Chiang Kai-Shek rifle yesterday and it was in overall condition. The wood was okay, the metal had minor pitting along the woodline and the metal just needed some Hopps/steel wool treatment to clean up. Upon disassembling the bolt after fiddling with it for a little bit (its based upon the Standard Modell bolt that I couldnt find a diagram for) I found that the firing pin was broken, or at least appeared to be,l. The "break" looks too clean to be an actual break. I know some of these rifles were made in villages and certain liberties were taken. I was wondering if anyone could tell me if the bolt needs to be replaced (and if its interchangeable with other mauser parts), if its repairable, or if I'm just an idiot! Thanks! Last edited by UserOfMosins; June 2, 2018 at 09:42 AM.

May 31, 2018, 09:03 AM	#3
4V50 Gary Staff Join Date: November 2, 1998 Location: Colorado Posts: 21,838	Looks broke to me. Have it soldered back together but if you want a shooter, buy a new striker. BTW, that doesn't look like any Mauser 98 striker I have ever seen. __________________ Vigilantibus et non dormientibus jura subveniunt. *Molon Labe!*

June 1, 2018, 12:58 AM	#5
4V50 Gary Staff Join Date: November 2, 1998 Location: Colorado Posts: 21,838	Low temp, hi force solder. But I'd still get a new one for use. __________________ Vigilantibus et non dormientibus jura subveniunt. *Molon Labe!*

June 1, 2018, 03:43 PM	#8
J.G. Terry Senior Member Join Date: January 24, 2014 Posts: 577	Manchurian or Muken Mauser Manchurian or Muken Mauser: The rifles had features of the 98 Mauser and the Japanese rifles. If you have one, check out the asking price of these rifles. Be sitting down when when you get some numbers. Suggestion: Other than a gentle cleaning leave the rifle be. Last edited by J.G. Terry; June 1, 2018 at 03:58 PM.

June 2, 2018, 09:51 AM	#10
J.G. Terry Senior Member Join Date: January 24, 2014 Posts: 577	Let us Know This history of this rare rifle is given on the net. What gave a clue here was the firing pin and bolt body. If you could post a picture of the rifle and top of the receiver would be helpful. Got "my fingers crossed" for you. Let us know the outcome of your search.

May 31, 2018, 08:41 AM	#2
Tidewater_Kid Senior Member Join Date: July 3, 2005 Location: Alabama Posts: 925	I am not familiar with these rifles, but that looks like a creative way to fix a broken firing pin. Numrich lists complete bolts, but no firing pins in stock. https://www.gunpartscorp.com/gun-man...hiang-kai-shek

May 31, 2018, 11:14 AM	#4
UserOfMosins Junior Member Join Date: November 27, 2014 Location: Georgia Posts: 10	The striker is what threw me off. It disassembles different from any 98 or 98k that i've seen. Thats why im hoping to go the repair route

June 1, 2018, 01:25 AM	#6
tangolima Senior Member Join Date: September 28, 2013 Posts: 3,825	Retipping firing pin is a routine method to repair old guns with hard-to-find parts. I did more than a few myself. Low temp solder suffices. It is mainly to keep the tip in place and to deliver force to retract the tip from the bolt face when the action is worked. I love to have a Chiang Kai Shek Mauser. Unfortunately the ones I have looked at all have their barrels shot out long ago. I bought a hanyang 88 and thought it had a decent bore. 8mm bullet dropped right through. -TL Sent from my SM-G930T using Tapatalk

June 1, 2018, 05:14 AM	#7
J.G. Terry Senior Member Join Date: January 24, 2014 Posts: 577	The firing pin assembly is unusual. There are some differences in the bolt. Would it be possible to give other pictures and disassembly. Many years ago we had some of these rifle from China. There was a mixture of FN's, German made rifles and those made in China. Those Chinese rifles were basically faithful copies of the Standard Modell. These guns were in NRA wrecked condition.

June 2, 2018, 09:43 AM	#9
UserOfMosins Junior Member Join Date: November 27, 2014 Location: Georgia Posts: 10	Hey thanks man!! Thats what the rifle was listed for in the store but i think its just a type 24! If you want to take a look i just uploaded the pics!!

June 2, 2018, 10:44 AM	#11
UserOfMosins Junior Member Join Date: November 27, 2014 Location: Georgia Posts: 10	They should have uploaded by now! I think i've determined that its a 41st arsenal type 24, but i would love to have it checked by a pro!

June 2, 2018, 11:11 AM	#12
J.G. Terry Senior Member Join Date: January 24, 2014 Posts: 577	Check it out. I would be good to have the rifle checked by knowledgeable collector or source. It may be hidden but the bolt sleeve does not appear to have a lock. There are many changes in the bolt alone. Point being there are many differences shown that suggest that it would be wise to do further research.

June 2, 2018, 11:55 AM	#13
UserOfMosins Junior Member Join Date: November 27, 2014 Location: Georgia Posts: 10	Will do! Much appreciated Mr. Terry! Will update you if i find anything new.