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May 15, 2018, 09:45 AM | #26 | |
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May 15, 2018, 11:09 AM | #28 | |
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May 15, 2018, 01:49 PM | #29 |
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I bought a WASR-10 after watching them test it on AK-47/74 Operators Union. The new ones seem to be of a little better quality than the older WASR-10/63's. Mine shot a little right at 100yrds but a small adjustment with my sight tool and it was dead on. With factory iron sights and shooting off a bag I was able to get just over 3" groups @ 100yrds. Ammo was Wolf 122gr hollow point I believe. No regrets on this $649.99+tax purchase. Yeah its alot more expensive than they used to be. What isnt besides AR's?
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May 15, 2018, 04:44 PM | #30 |
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I used to have a MAK90, very nice. Sold it during one of the gun scares and doubled my money. Got an NPAP about two years ago. It came with black plastic furniture. I didn't like the stock and replaced it with an Ace skeleton type. Midwest Industries quick detatch scope mount and a 4x scope. Changed the flash hider too, but I don't remember what kind I have, just looks cooler. Fun gun.
Factoring inflation, I don't think AKs got more expensive, ARs just got much, much cheaper. |
May 16, 2018, 11:41 AM | #31 |
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This conversation has been fun reading--in fact--I'm inspired to go out and send a few.
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May 16, 2018, 03:11 PM | #32 |
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At the risk of seeming to hijack the thread--just got back from some gratuitous AK banging Ahhhh. Shot a bunch of "whatever was lying around" ammo which included federal, tula and some left-over handloads. Most were grouping in the 2" +/- range--but the handloads--which are hornady factory second 123 gr spire points--seem to shoot well out of the PSAK especially when driven by 1680 or CFEBLK, as you can see here.
I can't say enough about Primary Arm's AK 1x4 reddot/scope--it's fabulous for the platform--about the only optic I've ever had that's made in China that I really like a lot. The gun is entirely stock except for the add-on rail and scope. The gun has only one weakness which is driving me nuts--maybe one of you AK experts can help me with this. The very first shot out of the magazine, after I rack it home--always hits low and away from the rest of the group. The first case ejected is always mangled with a crushed neck, too. Is there an explanation or is this just pure coincidence?
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May 16, 2018, 08:33 PM | #33 |
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Stagpanther, do you have more recoil/flash/bang that first round? Have you tried downloading mags to only half their capacity? Just curious.
My first thought would be to inspect the bullet guide. Any play there? After that I don't know
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May 17, 2018, 11:39 AM | #35 |
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I ask because a neighbor of mine, years ago now, had his bullet guide come loose. Actually a miracle the thing didn't come off or strip the threads in the trunnion. He had a similar problem and we finally diagnosed that he experienced significant bullet setback from the first few rounds of a fully loaded magazine. We then noticed the bullet guide was loose and could rotate some. Tightened it down and the problem went away. I don't know why it only affected the first round or three in the mag, I am at a loss to explain that. None-the-less, it happened.
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May 26, 2018, 05:06 PM | #37 |
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Django11: Maybe you watched "AK Operators Union" on YouTube? I'm quite aware of pros and cons of some of his evaluations, i.e. the drop test etc.
Who else shoots 3,500, even 5,000 rounds in a specific AK and then shows you a close-up of any premature wear on the bolt lugs, channel and/or trunnions of some AK brands? Anybody can pull a brand-new gun out of the box, shoot it and declare "It works really good". This is meaningless until much more ammo has been consumed. AKOU found that the (post-'08?) WASR 10 and at least several others brands are manufactured with military-grade steel and the assembly has been of high quality. Last edited by Ignition Override; May 27, 2018 at 11:27 PM. |
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I have a Yugo undefolder with at least 5k rnds thru it...runs great... I suggest going over to th AK Files forum and troll around to see different opinions on nothing but AK's...
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I defer to the JMB of the USSR.....
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To the O.P. a budget is the best place to start, as with anything of course the higher the better, arsenal, krebs, a rifle dynamics, or even a good ol polytech. And yes steel ammo is just fine, for all your guns, including AKs.
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May 31, 2018, 10:45 AM | #42 |
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PSA's PSAK47 Zhokov is on sale today for $499. Just sayin.
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June 7, 2018, 05:10 PM | #43 |
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Just to let you know what I decided, a buddy of mine is giving me a killer deal on his AR so I will put the AK purchase on hold for just a bit. It was fun reading about all your input. Thanks
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