Graf & Sons highly recommended

berkmberk1 · June 20, 2008, 06:30 PM

A few weeks ago I stopped at Graf and Sons in Mexico, MO on the way to the Ozarks. They have one heck of an warehouse operation! They're considerate and fair. One of the items I was shopping for was .44 cal ball. They're prices had gone up from $8 to $10. There was still one box on the shelf for $8 so he let me have the next four boxes for the same price!.

I FINALLY got my hands on REAL black powder......Grafs brand......2f and 3f. Its half the price of subs around here! I'll give you a read out when I get back from the range.

They're great to deal with and have good prices.......you can't go wrong.....

timothy75 · June 20, 2008, 06:35 PM

Grafs is very easy to order black powder from online also. I've done a lot of buisness with them over the years and will do more.

Fingers McGee · June 20, 2008, 10:53 PM

Grafs has always been a good place to do business with. And shipping is free on BP orders. All ya gotta pay is the Hazmat fee.

For round balls and wads, ya can't go wrong with www.bpstuffllc.com

K.A.T. · June 21, 2008, 04:10 PM

I stopped at Bass Pro the other day, a box of round balls was $20, I didn't buy any. Are you telling me this place will ship round balls without a shipping charge, or only powder without a shipping charge.

Hawg · June 21, 2008, 04:33 PM

I don't think they sell round balls but Grafs ships everything free.

Fingers McGee · June 21, 2008, 10:31 PM

K.A.T. If you want roundballs, got to www.bpstuffllc.com I got 1000 .380 roundballs for $8/100 - that's $7/100 plus $10 shipping. He uses flat rate mailer, so whatever qty, the shiping is $10.

wolfsgrin · June 21, 2008, 11:09 PM

I have ordered balls and wads from bpstuffllc.com i used wonder wads that i got with my pistols and have since stopped using em now i only use the ones i got from bpstuff he also does some custom work on bp pistols and sells ones with treso nipples and tuned up starting at 250 very easy to deal with. all my ? he answered within 24hrs of my emailing him

K.A.T. · June 22, 2008, 05:16 AM

Thanks Guys, this is helpful info.

berkmberk1 · June 22, 2008, 09:06 PM

"Graf & Sons Pays Freight

Tired of placing orders with mail-order companies only to find out that your shipping charges add an additional 30% to your order? Many companies make huge profits by charging you actual published shipping rates that do not reflect their volume discounts, which in most cases is significant. At Graf & Sons, we keep it simple. We pay the freight to the first 48 states. All you pay is the price you see plus a minimal $4.50 handling and insurance charge per order. This might make our pricing seem a bit high in some cases but with an "average" order, our pricing meets or beats most of our competitors.

Prepaid shipping to 1st 48 states via ground only, excluding target loads. Customer pays actual freight for any express shipping and to all orders going to AK and HI.

Hazardous Fee Required
Order 32 lbs of smokeless powder and Graf & Sons pays the Haz Fee. You may order up to 50 lbs of smokeless powder and primers under 1 Haz Fee. Black powder requires its own separate Haz Mat fee. Additional haz mat fees may be required for backordered haz mat products."

They do sell bullets, balls and everything you need for reloaiding.

I picked my stuff up since I had to drive through there. Missouri sales tax was higher but I saved on the hazmat (bought five pounds of black and four of clays). The black was half my local retail price. That saved me at least $50. I got five boxes of .454 ball for $8 a box as the only box on the shelf was marked that way. He let me have the other four for the same price. I figure I saved $95 on the whole deal.

June 20, 2008, 06:30 PM	#1
berkmberk1 Senior Member Join Date: January 10, 2008 Location: Springfield, IL (formerly TX) Posts: 187	Graf & Sons highly recommended A few weeks ago I stopped at Graf and Sons in Mexico, MO on the way to the Ozarks. They have one heck of an warehouse operation! They're considerate and fair. One of the items I was shopping for was .44 cal ball. They're prices had gone up from $8 to $10. There was still one box on the shelf for $8 so he let me have the next four boxes for the same price!. I FINALLY got my hands on REAL black powder......Grafs brand......2f and 3f. Its half the price of subs around here! I'll give you a read out when I get back from the range. They're great to deal with and have good prices.......you can't go wrong..... __________________ M.D. Berk SFC USA Ret. (NRA Life Member 21 yrs) There's nothing like a good woman, a good pistol, and a bottle of Bulleit Bourbon Frontier Whiskey

June 20, 2008, 10:53 PM	#3
Fingers McGee Senior Member Join Date: March 19, 2008 Location: High & Dry in Missouri Ozarks Posts: 2,113	Grafs has always been a good place to do business with. And shipping is free on BP orders. All ya gotta pay is the Hazmat fee. For round balls and wads, ya can't go wrong with www.bpstuffllc.com __________________ Fingers (Show Me MO smoke) McGee - AKA Man of Many Colts - Alter ego of Diabolical Ken; SASS Regulator 28564-L-TG; Rangemaster and stage writer extraordinaire; Frontiersman, Pistoleer, NRA Endowment Life, NMLRA, SAF, CCRKBA, STORM 327, SV115; Charter member, Central Ozarks Western Shooters Cynic: A blackguard whose faulty vision see things as they are, not as they should be. Ambrose Bierce

June 21, 2008, 04:10 PM	#4
K.A.T. Member Join Date: May 31, 2007 Location: Gainesville,Ga. Posts: 80	I stopped at Bass Pro the other day, a box of round balls was $20, I didn't buy any. Are you telling me this place will ship round balls without a shipping charge, or only powder without a shipping charge. __________________ Never mind the dog, beware of the Colt!

June 21, 2008, 10:31 PM	#6
Fingers McGee Senior Member Join Date: March 19, 2008 Location: High & Dry in Missouri Ozarks Posts: 2,113	K.A.T. If you want roundballs, got to www.bpstuffllc.com I got 1000 .380 roundballs for $8/100 - that's $7/100 plus $10 shipping. He uses flat rate mailer, so whatever qty, the shiping is $10. __________________ Fingers (Show Me MO smoke) McGee - AKA Man of Many Colts - Alter ego of Diabolical Ken; SASS Regulator 28564-L-TG; Rangemaster and stage writer extraordinaire; Frontiersman, Pistoleer, NRA Endowment Life, NMLRA, SAF, CCRKBA, STORM 327, SV115; Charter member, Central Ozarks Western Shooters Cynic: A blackguard whose faulty vision see things as they are, not as they should be. Ambrose Bierce

June 21, 2008, 11:09 PM	#7
wolfsgrin Member Join Date: May 10, 2008 Location: Black hills Posts: 33	Ill back up Fingers I have ordered balls and wads from bpstuffllc.com i used wonder wads that i got with my pistols and have since stopped using em now i only use the ones i got from bpstuff he also does some custom work on bp pistols and sells ones with treso nipples and tuned up starting at 250 very easy to deal with. all my ? he answered within 24hrs of my emailing him

June 20, 2008, 06:35 PM	#2
timothy75 Senior Member Join Date: April 19, 2005 Location: Nevada Posts: 1,146	Grafs is very easy to order black powder from online also. I've done a lot of buisness with them over the years and will do more.

June 21, 2008, 04:33 PM	#5
Hawg Senior Member Join Date: September 8, 2007 Location: Mississippi Posts: 16,188	I don't think they sell round balls but Grafs ships everything free.

June 22, 2008, 05:16 AM	#8
K.A.T. Member Join Date: May 31, 2007 Location: Gainesville,Ga. Posts: 80	Thanks Guys, this is helpful info. __________________ Never mind the dog, beware of the Colt!

June 22, 2008, 09:06 PM	#9
berkmberk1 Senior Member Join Date: January 10, 2008 Location: Springfield, IL (formerly TX) Posts: 187	Here you go. "Graf & Sons Pays Freight Tired of placing orders with mail-order companies only to find out that your shipping charges add an additional 30% to your order? Many companies make huge profits by charging you actual published shipping rates that do not reflect their volume discounts, which in most cases is significant. At Graf & Sons, we keep it simple. We pay the freight to the first 48 states. All you pay is the price you see plus a minimal $4.50 handling and insurance charge per order. This might make our pricing seem a bit high in some cases but with an "average" order, our pricing meets or beats most of our competitors. Prepaid shipping to 1st 48 states via ground only, excluding target loads. Customer pays actual freight for any express shipping and to all orders going to AK and HI. Hazardous Fee Required Order 32 lbs of smokeless powder and Graf & Sons pays the Haz Fee. You may order up to 50 lbs of smokeless powder and primers under 1 Haz Fee. Black powder requires its own separate Haz Mat fee. Additional haz mat fees may be required for backordered haz mat products." They do sell bullets, balls and everything you need for reloaiding. I picked my stuff up since I had to drive through there. Missouri sales tax was higher but I saved on the hazmat (bought five pounds of black and four of clays). The black was half my local retail price. That saved me at least $50. I got five boxes of .454 ball for $8 a box as the only box on the shelf was marked that way. He let me have the other four for the same price. I figure I saved $95 on the whole deal. __________________ M.D. Berk SFC USA Ret. (NRA Life Member 21 yrs) There's nothing like a good woman, a good pistol, and a bottle of Bulleit Bourbon Frontier Whiskey