Unidentified cap-'n-ball revolver, need help please

Famas · January 19, 2022, 09:14 AM

Hello - a friend brought this to me yesterday in hopes I could identify it. I have absolutely no idea what it is, except possibly ACW era? Cap and ball, appears to be .36? Brass frame, hammerless....and double-action. Worst of all - absolutely no markings whatsoever...anywhere.
Any help is appreciated, thank you!
NFS!

armoredman · January 19, 2022, 11:22 PM

Pics?

Jim Watson · January 20, 2022, 09:31 AM

It looks like the Improved Mariette, Zhuk 72, except that one has a side barrel rammer instead of the under barrel Colt type you show. Perhaps you have an "unimproved" Mariette. Perhaps a copy, considering the lack of markings.
Mariette made a lot of pepperboxes and a lot of pinfires, apparently not many percussion.

noelf2 · January 20, 2022, 03:00 PM

Might have more luck in the black powder forum.

Randy A · February 9, 2022, 12:08 AM

My guess would be a predecessor to the Starr 1858. I think it’s an earlier Starr.

**Mike Irwin** · February 27, 2022, 03:57 PM

Can't see your pictures. When I try to enter your links directly into a browser I get a "URL Signature Expired" error.

January 19, 2022, 09:14 AM	#1
Famas Senior Member Join Date: December 5, 2009 Location: French, currently living in US Posts: 162	Unidentified cap-'n-ball revolver, need help please Hello - a friend brought this to me yesterday in hopes I could identify it. I have absolutely no idea what it is, except possibly ACW era? Cap and ball, appears to be .36? Brass frame, hammerless....and double-action. Worst of all - absolutely no markings whatsoever...anywhere. Any help is appreciated, thank you! NFS!

January 20, 2022, 03:00 PM	#4
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January 19, 2022, 11:22 PM	#2
armoredman Senior Member Join Date: May 22, 2007 Location: Arizona Posts: 5,196	Pics?

January 20, 2022, 09:31 AM	#3
Jim Watson Senior Member Join Date: October 25, 2001 Location: Alabama Posts: 18,128	It looks like the Improved Mariette, Zhuk 72, except that one has a side barrel rammer instead of the under barrel Colt type you show. Perhaps you have an "unimproved" Mariette. Perhaps a copy, considering the lack of markings. Mariette made a lot of pepperboxes and a lot of pinfires, apparently not many percussion.

February 9, 2022, 12:08 AM	#5
Randy A Member Join Date: January 14, 2012 Location: Montana Posts: 18	My guess would be a predecessor to the Starr 1858. I think it’s an earlier Starr.