Glock 19 Gen 5

Tactical Jackalope · May 9, 2018, 09:58 PM

Does anyone here have a Glock Gen 5? How do you like it?

I'm seeing a lot of great stuff and then not so great stuff. Which is always what happens when a new pistol comes out.

And let's face it, they really haven't done anything too innovative in a very long time because they don't really have to. And I get that.

Anyway, what's your $0.02?

EEL92fs · May 9, 2018, 10:06 PM

The biggest thing is if you close your eyes and shoot each of them the only big thing I noticed was the factory trigger on the 5 is better. I did not notice anything different with the finger groves gone.

Tactical Jackalope · May 9, 2018, 10:14 PM

I agree that the Gen 5 trigger is better. That's saying a lot from me. I'm a spoiled DA / SA kinda guy. The single action on my MK25 with the SRT and Gray Guns flat trigger is amazing.

So, the Gen 5 trigger isn't bad at all.

WannabeMiculek · May 9, 2018, 10:20 PM

I like mine. Glock might not have brought much to the table in terms of "innovation" but they did deliver a great shooting pistol with subtle yet meaningful improvements. I have a 19 and enjoy the straight grip without the finger grooves, that combined with the flared magwell and changeable backstraps, is a recipe for a solid handgun.
I have mixed feelings on the trigger after a thousand or so rounds it has gotten somewhat better, still not as good as a CZ or VP9, but a good trigger all the same.
So overall it is a good handgun, not life changing, but plain and simple a good handgun.

JDBerg · May 9, 2018, 10:28 PM

I had a chance to shoot a Gen5 19 a few times and really I like it a lot, but I like my Gen3 19 a lot also. If I didn’t have the Gen3 I’d get the Gen5, I really like that stock Gen5 trigger. But I don’t see the point in replacing the Gen3 with the Gen5 and I don’t want to add the Gen5 to the menagerie. There are other pistols on my wish list right now.

TunnelRat · May 10, 2018, 06:54 AM

I have 2000 rds through mine so far. I like it. The lack of finger grooves seems to give me less "Glock knuckle". I also do believe I can notice the difference in accuracy of the barrels as compared to previous generations. The finish is excellent. The internal changes seem to have made a number of parts more robust, notably the slide stop. I do think it's an overall improvement.

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batmann · May 10, 2018, 11:09 PM

Regardless of the generation, mine is a Gen 3, the Glock just works.

Lohman446 · May 11, 2018, 09:39 AM

I bought one after a lot of debate and trying to find something else. For the form factor, the simplicity of use, and maintenance the only thing that really ended up competing with the Glock 19 gen 5 was the Glock 19 gen 4 and every other iteration of the Glock 19 before it. Yes I did look at the CZ P07 and it was VERY close - I liked the Glock more and I wanted to not like the Glock.

My thoughts are this. It is a Glock 19 with all the good and bad that comes with every Glock 19. Soulless thing that will probably never win a bullseye competition but I have in the 1300 to 1500 range of rounds through mine without any failures that were not intentionally induced.

The thing is I think that would probably hold true for any other generation of Glock 19 I had bought. I don't think its special compared to previous generations it is just what I bought. If I was buying another today it would be the same one simply because I like buying the "cutting edge" (haha, its not but it is for Glock) and I like consistency.

My wife is working towards claiming mine and if she does I will replace it with the same thing (or buy her her own). It does what it is supposed to do.

Unconventional · May 11, 2018, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by EEL92fs

...if you close your eyes and shoot...

When it's the middle of the day and you want some night/low light training time...

Dane17 · May 11, 2018, 08:39 PM

I just got the 19x. Couldnt be happier with it.

Doc Holliday 1950 · May 12, 2018, 10:33 PM

This might sound weird. I have a slightly smaller hand and really like the groves in the G19 gen 4. This is a really big deal for me. the 5 model has internal upgrades, but for me they just don't do it for me. I'll stick with the G19 gen 4. I
learned how not to get the Glock knuckle and the G19 gen 4 grip is perfect for me.

TunnelRat · May 12, 2018, 11:13 PM

Glock knuckle isn't really something you "learn" to avoid, IMO. It affects different people differently and certain grip methods can help. I can tell you that by the end of my last 800 -1000 rd 2 day class where we were doing dozens of draws the 3 other people shooting Glocks plus me all had tape wrapped around that knuckle of the middle finger. This has been the case multiple times. That said if it doesn't affect you it totally makes sense not to care. I still have Gen 3 Glocks. I don't feel motivated to trade them in for more Gen 5s. I do like my Gen 5 more, but it doesn't make my other Glocks obsolete.

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**JohnKSa** · May 13, 2018, 01:23 AM

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I can tell you that by the end of my last 800 -1000 rd 2 day class where we were doing dozens of draws the 3 other people shooting Glocks plus me all had tape wrapped around that knuckle of the middle finger.

Most handguns rub against the knuckle of my strong-hand middle finger when I shoot them, or even during dry fire. I haven't really noticed that it's a Glock thing, it's mostly just a pistol thing.

Anyway, I've built up a protective callous on that spot so it's a non-issue for me, at least.

TunnelRat · May 13, 2018, 08:59 AM

Right, I still get it with most pistols, but it's more noticeable for me on Glocks and seems to happen faster (in thinking about it the P320 is one where it doesn't seem to happen and my M&P is less than the Glock). I have soft hands and blister before I callous (I'm a chairborne ranger). If I don't use the tape the blister pops and it's not so fun. A normal range day and I don't notice it at all. As always YMMV.

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str8tshot · May 13, 2018, 09:20 AM

I have a few Glocks and hate liking them all. The Gen5 19 has taken a prominent role for me. The one thing I find curious is the chamber. My chamber has the same freebies as my KKM barrel, so I use the same COL. My son’s freeborn is 0.001” shorter so I have to load deeper to cycle in his gun. I am not sure why they are different, and Glock won’t give specs and tolerances. I spent a few hours digging into the issue before I found a solution that works for all my guns. This is the first time I have seen an issue with Glock’s being picky. It must be how CZ shooters feel when loading for multiple guns.

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t4terrific · May 13, 2018, 06:25 PM

How has the word “innovative” become a thing?

The Glock 19 is the size and capacity that everyone’s trying to mimic. It’s accurate, reliable, and designed for carry and abuse.

It doesn’t look “tactical”, pretty, or have grips that can be swapped to match your man bag or shoes each day.

Really, all the jazz that Sig p320 and HK VP9 have gizmoed up only serve to hide the fact that they still are too big and no better, when compared to the Glock 19.

jr24 · May 15, 2018, 08:26 PM

I still wonder what folk expect for "innovative" in a polymer pistol these days. All the new ones just monkey with the grip or trigger a bit and call it innovation. Wow, its still a gun thats trying to be a Glock (for the most part) and usually not cracking their market share.

That said, the Gen 5 changes are mostly good, the trigger is definitely better and the finish does seem to be better. Losing the finger grooves is pretty cool too... BUT.

With the Gen 5 19, the front strap cutout is just awful for me. It is perfectly placed to be a horrible fit for my hands and i dislike it intensely. I'd have a Gen 5 19 already if not for the cutout, as the grooves on the 3 and 4 don't fit my hands.

Now, the 19X. Well that is a fantastic pistol, has been my EDC for 3 months or so and I haven't had the "its been a few months, maybe I need to change my EDC or buy a new one" syndrome yet. Big time winner for me.

Lohman446 · May 15, 2018, 09:16 PM

Your first two sentences and last paragraph amuse me together

hogwiley · June 9, 2018, 10:11 PM

I haven't handled a Gen 5 yet, but I kind of see removing the finger grooves as a step backward, for me anyway.

The finger grooves came about in large part because cops were complaining about the gen 2 glock grip being too slick when their hands were sweaty or the gun grip was wet. Some ADs were even blamed on this, I assume with cops fumbling around to get a good grip or trying to regrab the gun after it slipped. I read stories of police recruits launching their glocks downrange or in the air when trying to draw on a hot humid day. The finger grooves enable you to get a secure grip quickly, especially when drawing. consequently the number of ADs supposedly decreased when the gen 3 came out.

Its possible the more aggressive texture of the gen4 and 5 grip alone will have alleviated this, but I still think the gen 4 is one of the easiest guns to get a proper grip on when drawing quickly, mostly due to the finger grooves. It was lightyears ahead of my otherwise perfect p228 in that regard.

TunnelRat · June 9, 2018, 11:33 PM

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The finger grooves came about in large part because cops were complaining about the gen 2 glock grip being too slick when their hands were sweaty or the gun grip was wet. Some ADs were even blamed on this, I assume with cops fumbling around to get a good grip or trying to regrab the gun after it slipped. I read stories of police recruits launching their glocks downrange or in the air when trying to draw on a hot humid day. The finger grooves enable you to get a secure grip quickly, especially when drawing. consequently the number of ADs supposedly decreased when the gen 3 came out.

I've shot a Gen 2 a fair amount. It wasn't as grippy as the offerings now, but it's not what I'd call slippery. In my experience when it comes to police failures the equipment is often an easy fallguy.

Having owned Gen 3s, 4s, and 5s I don't feel the Gen 5 lacks in grip.

mdauben · June 10, 2018, 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by hogwiley

I haven't handled a Gen 5 yet, but I kind of see removing the finger grooves as a step backward, for me anyway. .

For me, the finger grooves on the Glock Gen 3 and 4 simply don't fit my hand. My finger either get forced uncomfortably into the grooves or ride uncomfortably on top of them.

This is the main reason I've held onto my Gen 2 Glock 17 and 21 all these years. I've been looking for an old Gen 2 Glock 19 but now I can just buy a Gen 5. I'm just hoping for a Gen 5 Glock 26 now.

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Schlitz 45 · June 10, 2018, 04:28 PM

I had zero experience owning a Glock or any striker fired pistols & very limited shooting time with any of them, always been a 1911 guy. Wanting to experiment a little I bought a gen 5 19 with the Ameri-glo sight option (+ $35 well spent) & I’ve grown quite fond of it. Easy to strip & clean, the trigger’s fine, very accurate, 30 ounces loaded with 16 rounds of 124 gr JHP’s make it easy to carry. It just works.
Most of the bad reviews were from folks that had a lot of Glock experience & preferred their gen 2/3/4 but just coming on board with no Glock baggage I’m happy I gave ‘em a try.

hogwiley · June 10, 2018, 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by mdauben

For me, the finger grooves on the Glock Gen 3 and 4 simply don't fit my hand. My finger either get forced uncomfortably into the grooves or ride uncomfortably on top of them.

This is the main reason I've held onto my Gen 2 Glock 17 and 21 all these years. I've been looking for an old Gen 2 Glock 19 but now I can just buy a Gen 5. I'm just hoping for a Gen 5 Glock 26 now.

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I understand. I think its a good thing glocks giving people the option of not having finger grooves, since they don't fit some people. As long as they keep making the gen 4 I guess its not an issue for those of us that like them.

I don't care about or don't like any of the other changes on the gen 5 anyway. A couple of the changes were just plain dumb to me, mainly the flared mag well and bottom grip cutout. They also managed to make an already ugly gun even uglier.

KY_blkout · June 10, 2018, 11:37 PM

The finger grooves work for me on my gen 4 19. I have yet to shoot a gen 5 but I keep waiting for the 19x to come out in other colors other than coyote.

May 9, 2018, 09:58 PM	#1
Tactical Jackalope Senior Member Join Date: December 5, 2010 Location: Miami, Florida Posts: 6,429	Glock 19 Gen 5 Does anyone here have a Glock Gen 5? How do you like it? I'm seeing a lot of great stuff and then not so great stuff. Which is always what happens when a new pistol comes out. And let's face it, they really haven't done anything too innovative in a very long time because they don't really have to. And I get that. Anyway, what's your $0.02?

May 9, 2018, 10:20 PM	#4
WannabeMiculek Member Join Date: December 27, 2017 Location: south-east Arkansas Posts: 25	I like mine. Glock might not have brought much to the table in terms of "innovation" but they did deliver a great shooting pistol with subtle yet meaningful improvements. I have a 19 and enjoy the straight grip without the finger grooves, that combined with the flared magwell and changeable backstraps, is a recipe for a solid handgun. I have mixed feelings on the trigger after a thousand or so rounds it has gotten somewhat better, still not as good as a CZ or VP9, but a good trigger all the same. So overall it is a good handgun, not life changing, but plain and simple a good handgun. __________________ Slow is Smooth, Smooth is Fast

May 9, 2018, 10:28 PM	#5
JDBerg Senior Member Join Date: May 18, 2015 Location: PA Posts: 1,835	I had a chance to shoot a Gen5 19 a few times and really I like it a lot, but I like my Gen3 19 a lot also. If I didn’t have the Gen3 I’d get the Gen5, I really like that stock Gen5 trigger. But I don’t see the point in replacing the Gen3 with the Gen5 and I don’t want to add the Gen5 to the menagerie. There are other pistols on my wish list right now. __________________ Words to Live By: Before You Pray - Believe; Before You Speak - Listen; Before You Spend - Earn; Before You Write - Think; Before You Quit - Try; Before You Die - Live

May 12, 2018, 10:33 PM	#11
Doc Holliday 1950 Senior Member Join Date: June 16, 2014 Location: Bout as south as it gets Posts: 1,238	This might sound weird. I have a slightly smaller hand and really like the groves in the G19 gen 4. This is a really big deal for me. the 5 model has internal upgrades, but for me they just don't do it for me. I'll stick with the G19 gen 4. I learned how not to get the Glock knuckle and the G19 gen 4 grip is perfect for me. __________________ Shoot well and be Accurate, Doc

May 12, 2018, 11:13 PM	#12
TunnelRat Senior Member Join Date: May 22, 2011 Posts: 12,215	Glock knuckle isn't really something you "learn" to avoid, IMO. It affects different people differently and certain grip methods can help. I can tell you that by the end of my last 800 -1000 rd 2 day class where we were doing dozens of draws the 3 other people shooting Glocks plus me all had tape wrapped around that knuckle of the middle finger. This has been the case multiple times. That said if it doesn't affect you it totally makes sense not to care. I still have Gen 3 Glocks. I don't feel motivated to trade them in for more Gen 5s. I do like my Gen 5 more, but it doesn't make my other Glocks obsolete. Sent from my Pixel 2 using Tapatalk Last edited by TunnelRat; May 12, 2018 at 11:33 PM.

May 9, 2018, 10:06 PM	#2
EEL92fs Senior Member Join Date: July 10, 2007 Location: Dayton OH Posts: 155	The biggest thing is if you close your eyes and shoot each of them the only big thing I noticed was the factory trigger on the 5 is better. I did not notice anything different with the finger groves gone.

May 9, 2018, 10:14 PM	#3
Tactical Jackalope Senior Member Join Date: December 5, 2010 Location: Miami, Florida Posts: 6,429	I agree that the Gen 5 trigger is better. That's saying a lot from me. I'm a spoiled DA / SA kinda guy. The single action on my MK25 with the SRT and Gray Guns flat trigger is amazing. So, the Gen 5 trigger isn't bad at all.

May 10, 2018, 06:54 AM	#6
TunnelRat Senior Member Join Date: May 22, 2011 Posts: 12,215	I have 2000 rds through mine so far. I like it. The lack of finger grooves seems to give me less "Glock knuckle". I also do believe I can notice the difference in accuracy of the barrels as compared to previous generations. The finish is excellent. The internal changes seem to have made a number of parts more robust, notably the slide stop. I do think it's an overall improvement. Sent from my Pixel 2 using Tapatalk

May 10, 2018, 11:09 PM	#7
batmann Senior Member Join Date: November 14, 2004 Location: Greenwood, IN Posts: 773	Regardless of the generation, mine is a Gen 3, the Glock just works.

May 11, 2018, 09:39 AM	#8
Lohman446 Senior Member Join Date: April 22, 2016 Posts: 2,192	I bought one after a lot of debate and trying to find something else. For the form factor, the simplicity of use, and maintenance the only thing that really ended up competing with the Glock 19 gen 5 was the Glock 19 gen 4 and every other iteration of the Glock 19 before it. Yes I did look at the CZ P07 and it was VERY close - I liked the Glock more and I wanted to not like the Glock. My thoughts are this. It is a Glock 19 with all the good and bad that comes with every Glock 19. Soulless thing that will probably never win a bullseye competition but I have in the 1300 to 1500 range of rounds through mine without any failures that were not intentionally induced. The thing is I think that would probably hold true for any other generation of Glock 19 I had bought. I don't think its special compared to previous generations it is just what I bought. If I was buying another today it would be the same one simply because I like buying the "cutting edge" (haha, its not but it is for Glock) and I like consistency. My wife is working towards claiming mine and if she does I will replace it with the same thing (or buy her her own). It does what it is supposed to do.

May 11, 2018, 08:39 PM	#10
Dane17 Member Join Date: September 2, 2015 Posts: 30	I just got the 19x. Couldnt be happier with it.

May 13, 2018, 08:59 AM	#14
TunnelRat Senior Member Join Date: May 22, 2011 Posts: 12,215	Right, I still get it with most pistols, but it's more noticeable for me on Glocks and seems to happen faster (in thinking about it the P320 is one where it doesn't seem to happen and my M&P is less than the Glock). I have soft hands and blister before I callous (I'm a chairborne ranger). If I don't use the tape the blister pops and it's not so fun. A normal range day and I don't notice it at all. As always YMMV. Sent from my Pixel 2 using Tapatalk

May 13, 2018, 09:20 AM	#15
str8tshot Senior Member Join Date: October 26, 2014 Posts: 102	I have a few Glocks and hate liking them all. The Gen5 19 has taken a prominent role for me. The one thing I find curious is the chamber. My chamber has the same freebies as my KKM barrel, so I use the same COL. My son’s freeborn is 0.001” shorter so I have to load deeper to cycle in his gun. I am not sure why they are different, and Glock won’t give specs and tolerances. I spent a few hours digging into the issue before I found a solution that works for all my guns. This is the first time I have seen an issue with Glock’s being picky. It must be how CZ shooters feel when loading for multiple guns. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

May 13, 2018, 06:25 PM	#16
t4terrific Senior Member Join Date: December 22, 2009 Posts: 307	How has the word “innovative” become a thing? The Glock 19 is the size and capacity that everyone’s trying to mimic. It’s accurate, reliable, and designed for carry and abuse. It doesn’t look “tactical”, pretty, or have grips that can be swapped to match your man bag or shoes each day. Really, all the jazz that Sig p320 and HK VP9 have gizmoed up only serve to hide the fact that they still are too big and no better, when compared to the Glock 19.

May 15, 2018, 08:26 PM	#17
jr24 Senior Member Join Date: August 29, 2011 Posts: 870	I still wonder what folk expect for "innovative" in a polymer pistol these days. All the new ones just monkey with the grip or trigger a bit and call it innovation. Wow, its still a gun thats trying to be a Glock (for the most part) and usually not cracking their market share. That said, the Gen 5 changes are mostly good, the trigger is definitely better and the finish does seem to be better. Losing the finger grooves is pretty cool too... BUT. With the Gen 5 19, the front strap cutout is just awful for me. It is perfectly placed to be a horrible fit for my hands and i dislike it intensely. I'd have a Gen 5 19 already if not for the cutout, as the grooves on the 3 and 4 don't fit my hands. Now, the 19X. Well that is a fantastic pistol, has been my EDC for 3 months or so and I haven't had the "its been a few months, maybe I need to change my EDC or buy a new one" syndrome yet. Big time winner for me.

May 15, 2018, 09:16 PM	#18
Lohman446 Senior Member Join Date: April 22, 2016 Posts: 2,192	Your first two sentences and last paragraph amuse me together

June 9, 2018, 10:11 PM	#19
hogwiley Senior Member Join Date: January 10, 2011 Posts: 277	I haven't handled a Gen 5 yet, but I kind of see removing the finger grooves as a step backward, for me anyway. The finger grooves came about in large part because cops were complaining about the gen 2 glock grip being too slick when their hands were sweaty or the gun grip was wet. Some ADs were even blamed on this, I assume with cops fumbling around to get a good grip or trying to regrab the gun after it slipped. I read stories of police recruits launching their glocks downrange or in the air when trying to draw on a hot humid day. The finger grooves enable you to get a secure grip quickly, especially when drawing. consequently the number of ADs supposedly decreased when the gen 3 came out. Its possible the more aggressive texture of the gen4 and 5 grip alone will have alleviated this, but I still think the gen 4 is one of the easiest guns to get a proper grip on when drawing quickly, mostly due to the finger grooves. It was lightyears ahead of my otherwise perfect p228 in that regard.

June 10, 2018, 04:28 PM	#22
Schlitz 45 Senior Member Join Date: January 14, 2018 Location: Colorado Posts: 385	I had zero experience owning a Glock or any striker fired pistols & very limited shooting time with any of them, always been a 1911 guy. Wanting to experiment a little I bought a gen 5 19 with the Ameri-glo sight option (+ $35 well spent) & I’ve grown quite fond of it. Easy to strip & clean, the trigger’s fine, very accurate, 30 ounces loaded with 16 rounds of 124 gr JHP’s make it easy to carry. It just works. Most of the bad reviews were from folks that had a lot of Glock experience & preferred their gen 2/3/4 but just coming on board with no Glock baggage I’m happy I gave ‘em a try.

June 10, 2018, 11:37 PM	#24
KY_blkout Member Join Date: June 10, 2018 Posts: 67	The finger grooves work for me on my gen 4 19. I have yet to shoot a gen 5 but I keep waiting for the 19x to come out in other colors other than coyote.