Old K-Hornet

Khornet · September 13, 2002, 06:03 AM

No, not me...I mean my Savage Model 219. This is a break-open single shot rifle I got from my brother years ago. The thing is, I've never been sure whether it's a .223 or .224 bore, though I have tried 'slugging' it with a pulled .22 rimfire bullet.

Any opinions on what it's likely to be, based on the model or other info?

Poodleshooter · September 13, 2002, 10:15 AM

Probably a question for Harley's forum, but if it's older than 1940's, I'd guess .223.

john kilgore · September 13, 2002, 02:32 PM

You probably won't get a good reading from a rim-fire bullet as they usually run about .222 to .2225. They depend on a cupped base and thin section of lead at the base for gas seal, and inertia and pressure obturation to grooves for accuracy. Best was to slug bore without using a cast bullet, is to get some fish sinkers slightly larger than the .22 bore and then run it through the bore. Like the other poster stated, if made prior to 1950, it may have a .223 bore, if after, probably a .224. It would behoove you to try both to see what shot better. I had a Ruger 77/22 Hornet that shot the .223's better, but was still a stinker. I traded for a 77/22 KBZ with heavy barrel- has much better chamber, but I still thing I'm going to send it to CPC Gunsmithing for the K-Hornet conversion and bolt tightening. I get some really great velocities, but the throat is really long and rough, although the body section is nice and tight, -accuracy is an off and on thing, usually better with deep seated bullets. A really good K-Hornet rework would give me near .221 Fireball velocities and better accuracy to boot.
Try the Hornady .223's and .224's and see which shoots better.

September 13, 2002, 06:03 AM	#1
Khornet Senior Member Join Date: December 11, 2001 Location: NH Posts: 585	Old K-Hornet No, not me...I mean my Savage Model 219. This is a break-open single shot rifle I got from my brother years ago. The thing is, I've never been sure whether it's a .223 or .224 bore, though I have tried 'slugging' it with a pulled .22 rimfire bullet. Any opinions on what it's likely to be, based on the model or other info? __________________ The M1 does MY talking!

September 13, 2002, 02:32 PM	#3
john kilgore Senior Member Join Date: August 27, 2002 Location: east georgia Posts: 125	You probably won't get a good reading from a rim-fire bullet as they usually run about .222 to .2225. They depend on a cupped base and thin section of lead at the base for gas seal, and inertia and pressure obturation to grooves for accuracy. Best was to slug bore without using a cast bullet, is to get some fish sinkers slightly larger than the .22 bore and then run it through the bore. Like the other poster stated, if made prior to 1950, it may have a .223 bore, if after, probably a .224. It would behoove you to try both to see what shot better. I had a Ruger 77/22 Hornet that shot the .223's better, but was still a stinker. I traded for a 77/22 KBZ with heavy barrel- has much better chamber, but I still thing I'm going to send it to CPC Gunsmithing for the K-Hornet conversion and bolt tightening. I get some really great velocities, but the throat is really long and rough, although the body section is nice and tight, -accuracy is an off and on thing, usually better with deep seated bullets. A really good K-Hornet rework would give me near .221 Fireball velocities and better accuracy to boot. Try the Hornady .223's and .224's and see which shoots better. __________________ "There is no such thing as a second place winner in a gunfight" Bill Jordan

September 13, 2002, 10:15 AM	#2
Poodleshooter Senior Member Join Date: August 7, 2000 Location: Floating down the James River in VA Posts: 2,599	Probably a question for Harley's forum, but if it's older than 1940's, I'd guess .223.