Natural Point of Aim

Lurper · April 18, 2008, 01:03 AM

Here is a video of your natural point of aim and how to find it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQtY2gkUM0Y

Dmanbass · April 23, 2008, 12:02 PM

Very good. I am off to the left about 6 inches. Good info. Thank you for posting.

Stilgar · April 23, 2008, 04:47 PM

Nice info. Thanks!

UniversalFrost · April 24, 2008, 09:32 AM

well i can't see the video at work, but I will comment on "natural POA"

There is nothing natural about POA, it is what you are taught or not taught.

I see so many young shooters come through and their "natural POA" is what they saw in the movies or learned from an idiot relative.

"natural POA" is also a factor of the design of the weapon. some weapons force you to hold them a certain way that would increase the "accuracy" of the weapon in the hands of an untrained shooter, while other weapons (read american rifles and some semi auto pistols) have ergonomics that were designed by rabid monkeys and actually detract from the abiltiy to shoot the weapon "accurately" and consistently.

ken grant · April 30, 2008, 01:36 PM

There is such a thing as NPOA but most shooters don't know about it.
Have you ever shot good groups at targets but the groups are in different places on the target as you change positions or reload your gun or get distracted? If so,most likely it because of not having a NPOA.
Another thing about NPOA is the fact that most people relax their muscles when the trigger breaks and the gun moves. If you have NOPA,the gun stays where it was pointed when the trigger breaks.

ken grant · April 30, 2008, 01:42 PM

I can't get the vid about NPOA. The link seems dead.
Can anyone help me get it?
Thanks

ken grant · April 30, 2008, 09:06 PM

Works for me now

Lurper · May 1, 2008, 08:42 AM

Quote:

There is nothing natural about POA, it is what you are taught or not taught.

Sure there is and it has nothing to do with the design of the firearm. It is the position where it feels most natural/comfortable. There is no tension coming from the right or left side of the body. If you don't understand the concept of a neutral grip/stance then NPOA won't make sense. Knowing how to use it is even more important.

RandyStacyE · May 1, 2008, 06:56 PM

That's a decent video. Most experienced shooters have likely learned it for themselves. For instance, when my daughter asks me to take her in the back yard to shoot, I try my hardest to not over criticize her, but her stance and overall posture is just ... ... incorrect.

I understand what UniversalFrost is saying though too. With more experience I'm sure she will learn it for herself like I did. She gets upset with herself when she's not plinking the target, but she's 10 yrs old, I'm proud of her, and I don't want to give her any excuse to be discouraged.

Older people NEED to learn how to shoot correctly and SHOULDN"T be offended by negative criticism. Everyone should follow their gut instinct though (in my opinion) and if what works best for them ... more power to em.

April 18, 2008, 01:03 AM	#1
Lurper Senior Member Join Date: March 21, 2006 Posts: 943	Natural Point of Aim Here is a video of your natural point of aim and how to find it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQtY2gkUM0Y

April 23, 2008, 12:02 PM	#2
Dmanbass Senior Member Join Date: March 2, 2008 Posts: 128	Very good. I am off to the left about 6 inches. Good info. Thank you for posting. __________________ *"You're a daisy if you do"* http://www.texasguntalk.com/forums/index.php Colt - Mosin Nagant - Taurus - Ruger - Mossberg - H&R - Winchester

April 23, 2008, 04:47 PM	#3
Stilgar Junior Member Join Date: March 8, 2008 Location: Lower Lake, Ca Posts: 10	Nice info. Thanks! __________________ - James

April 24, 2008, 09:32 AM	#4
UniversalFrost Senior Member Join Date: February 20, 2006 Location: Ohio Posts: 2,300	well i can't see the video at work, but I will comment on "natural POA" There is nothing natural about POA, it is what you are taught or not taught. I see so many young shooters come through and their "natural POA" is what they saw in the movies or learned from an idiot relative. "natural POA" is also a factor of the design of the weapon. some weapons force you to hold them a certain way that would increase the "accuracy" of the weapon in the hands of an untrained shooter, while other weapons (read american rifles and some semi auto pistols) have ergonomics that were designed by rabid monkeys and actually detract from the abiltiy to shoot the weapon "accurately" and consistently. __________________ Lifetime member VFW and NRA "Quando Omni Flunkus Moritati" (when all else fails play dead) -Red Green

April 30, 2008, 01:36 PM	#5
ken grant Member Join Date: December 20, 2004 Posts: 59	NPOA There is such a thing as NPOA but most shooters don't know about it. Have you ever shot good groups at targets but the groups are in different places on the target as you change positions or reload your gun or get distracted? If so,most likely it because of not having a NPOA. Another thing about NPOA is the fact that most people relax their muscles when the trigger breaks and the gun moves. If you have NOPA,the gun stays where it was pointed when the trigger breaks.

April 30, 2008, 01:42 PM	#6
ken grant Member Join Date: December 20, 2004 Posts: 59	Youtube I can't get the vid about NPOA. The link seems dead. Can anyone help me get it? Thanks

April 30, 2008, 09:06 PM	#7
ken grant Member Join Date: December 20, 2004 Posts: 59	Vid Works for me now

May 1, 2008, 06:56 PM	#9
RandyStacyE Junior member Join Date: February 29, 2008 Location: Indiana Posts: 83	That's a decent video. Most experienced shooters have likely learned it for themselves. For instance, when my daughter asks me to take her in the back yard to shoot, I try my hardest to not over criticize her, but her stance and overall posture is just ... ... incorrect. I understand what UniversalFrost is saying though too. With more experience I'm sure she will learn it for herself like I did. She gets upset with herself when she's not plinking the target, but she's 10 yrs old, I'm proud of her, and I don't want to give her any excuse to be discouraged. Older people NEED to learn how to shoot correctly and SHOULDN"T be offended by negative criticism. Everyone should follow their gut instinct though (in my opinion) and if what works best for them ... more power to em.

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