Inline Poll: "Small Arsenal found" (in Houston of all places)

[TXAZ]

Please answer these 2 questions in your response:

How many guns and rounds of ammo constitutes a "small arsenal" for one person?

How many would be a "large arsenal"?


Knowing many gun guys in the Houston area, I broke out laughing when I read the story, guessing by the description in the article that most of them have "extremely large arsenals" (way more than 10 guns)

"Police believe man found with small arsenal at Hyatt Regency downtown had no intent to use"

And just how big was that arsenal? According to the story: "AR-15, a shotgun, a handgun and lots of ammunition". I can't wait to hear how many rounds of ammo is "lots".

Here's the link:
"Small Arsenal"

What say you?

Small Arsenal: X long guns + Y handguns + over Z rounds of ammo
Large Arsenal: X long guns + Y handguns + over Z rounds of ammo

[lefteye]

Perhaps a slight overstatement by the expert media.

[Dfariswheel]

I know words no longer have much meaning even to supposedly educated reporters, but.......

An Arsenal is a place where arms are manufactured.
An Armory is a place where arms are stored.

This is why you have a National Guard Armory in town and not a National Guard Arsenal.

What constitutes an "arsenal" totally depends on how Lefty the news source is, and how "evil" the guns are.
Any amount of ammo over about a 20 round box is considered to be an arsenal.
You get more arsenal points if there's more then 2 magazines, one magazine that holds more then 10 rounds, and extra points if there's some sort of knife present.
A camo jacket puts it into the "Suspected militia or KKK/Nazi" range.

[CalmerThanYou]

And if you bring your Uplula, all bets are off.

[Danoobie]

The term "Arsenal" is media abuse, cut and dried. Ever been to a real arsenal?
Hundreds, if not thousands of mediocre,identical, unloaded, storage maintenanced
firearms, set aside,usually, in the total absence of ammo, to be kept for a long, undetermined period, in the possible event they may be needed, at a later date.
All stored in a large locked chamber, which is supervised regularly, but rarely entered.

"Arsenal" is just a liberal media term to make people think the worst.
How many guns should be in an "arsenal"? At least 2000. All identical
Type: Current or last generation military grade.
Ammo: Might or might not be stored, in an adjoining chamber.

[shuvelrider]

Words to scare the sheeple/people who won't think for themselves anymore. The Chicago Tribune was notorious for counting every single round of .22 ammo found in anyone's home, during any kind of "police intervention", just to make the suspect appear that much more dangerous to society. Glad I left Illinois.

[Aguila Blanca]

Originally Posted by TXAZ

What say you?

Small Arsenal: X long guns + Y handguns + over Z rounds of ammo
Large Arsenal: X long guns + Y handguns + over Z rounds of ammo

Small = 10 long guns, 5 handguns, >1000 rounds of ammunition

Large = 50 long guns, 50 handguns, >10,000 rounds of ammunition

[Aguila Blanca]

Originally Posted by Dfariswheel

An Arsenal is a place where arms are manufactured.
An Armory is a place where arms are stored.

And, despite the truth of what you wrote, "the oldest name in American firearms" is Springfield Armory (which manufactured firearms for the U.S. Government, established by George Washington), not Springfield Arsenal.

[jimbob86]

I'll not do numbers, but when you say "Arsenal" that means you'd need trucks (Dozens and Dozens) to move it. The National Guard had "Armories".... that took several trucks ..... the Army had "Arsenals" ......

[Spats McGee]

Originally Posted by TXAZ

. . . . And just how big was that arsenal? According to the story: "AR-15, a shotgun, a handgun and lots of ammunition". I can't wait to hear how many rounds of ammo is "lots". . . .

Sounds like a drunken 3-gun competitor to me.

Originally Posted by TXAZ

What say you?

Small Arsenal: X long guns + Y handguns + over Z rounds of ammo
Large Arsenal: X long guns + Y handguns + over Z rounds of ammo

If my home is ever raided by the police, I'll be sorely disappointed if the term "arsenal" doesn't show up in the newspaper.

I can't pin this down to numbers of guns and rounds, but here's how I see it:
Small Arsenal: You would need one or two friends with pickup trucks to move them to a new house.
Large Arsenal: You would need a semi and special permits to move them to a new house.

[Kreyzhorse]

Small or large arsenal are generally defined by if the person is pro or anti gun and or what type of headlines it will generate.

Safe to say, most of my gun buddies have an arsenal of weapons. I wouldn't define any of them as small, or large.

[Aguila Blanca]

Originally Posted by Spats McGee

Small Arsenal: You would need one or two friends with pickup trucks to move them to a new house.
Large Arsenal: You would need a semi and special permits to move them to a new house.

Perfect.

[mikejonestkd]

Small Arsenal: You would need one or two friends with pickup trucks to move them to a new house.
Large Arsenal: You would need a semi and special permits to move them to a new house.

I recently moved to a new home, and had to borrow every gun case from several friends to safely transport all of them to the new house, so I agree with Spats...

I have a small arsenal......but am hoping to change that over time.

[Danoobie]

If somebody came to my house looking for an "arsenal", I'd expect
them to say "Where is it all ? This is IT??".

[Pahoo]

My wife collects Willow-Tree Angels ; ........ = Collection
My Son-in-law collects Diamonds, silver and gold; ..... = Investment
I am a leather crafter and have many old leather tools. .............. = Hobby

I have always associated the word; Arsenal with the military and law enforcement and nothing else. ....

The 2A foes and liberal media, key in on catch words or phases to support their agenda. One example is reported suicide that a man had committed suicide with a Semi-automatic handgun that held 15-rounds. ...... Really?

You do the math and;
Be Safe !!!

[KyJim]

Small aresenal means it hurts a bit to buy gunsocks for each gun. Large aresenal means you have to take out a loan to buy gunsocks for each gun

[TXAZ]

Ding Ding Ding Ding Ding Ding Ding Ding Ding !!!! We have a winner:

Originally Posted by Spats McGee

I can't pin this down to numbers of guns and rounds, but here's how I see it:
Small Arsenal: You would need one or two friends with pickup trucks to move them to a new house.
Large Arsenal: You would need a semi and special permits to move them to a new house.

[Green Lantern]

Arsenal : An arsenal is a place where arms and ammunition are made, maintained and repaired, stored, or issued, in any combination, whether privately or publicly owned.


Small : 4 long + 4 short + 200 rounds

Large : 20 long + 20 short + 1000rounds

[tony pasley]

Small what fits in the cab of my truck
Large what fits in the trailer I pull behind my truck

[Buzzcook]

Arsenal is a silly word, unless you're a soccer fan. It has several different usages, and it has been used to describe any amount of weapons owned by an individual as well as massive government depots. So effectively the word is subjective and its appropriate use is determined by the user.

[jimbob86]

Arsenal is a silly word, unless you're a soccer fan. It has several different usages, and it has been used to describe any amount of weapons owned by an individual as well as massive government depots. So effectively the word is subjective and its appropriate use is determined by the user.

When the press used to think it's job was to report what happened, when and where and how .... they'd have said "Arsenal" if an industrial facility where arms and munitions were made and stored were the what or where in the story ..... now that they think there job is to "help the reader form pictures in his or her head and explain why this matters to him or her" ...... they are trying to paint a picture of huge numbers of guns and munitions .... sigh ....

[WyMark]

This isn't directed at any one in particular, but I think that in general calling out the "liberal media" for relaying what they've been told by law enforcement just makes a poster come off like a simple minded idiot.

A man has been arrested on multiple charges after police located a small arsenal of guns on the top floor of the Hyatt Regency on Louisiana Street downtown, Houston police said.

Most range trips I take just one or two guns, but some days I take what local law enforcement could tell the local paper was a "small arsenal". And depending what caliber guns I plan on shooting, I could potentially have thousands of rounds of ammo in the truck at the same time.

[lefteye]

Who knows if it was a police officer or a media reporter/writer that described the three weapons as a small arsenal? I confess my natural bias, but my guess is the media reporter/writer or editor.

[Buzzcook]

Jimbob86: it isn't just the media. There was a thread on this board asking "what's the size of your arsenal".

[ATN082268]

Originally Posted by Spats McGee

I can't pin this down to numbers of guns and rounds, but here's how I see it:
Small Arsenal: You would need one or two friends with pickup trucks to move them to a new house.
Large Arsenal: You would need a semi and special permits to move them to a new house.

That's funny Three magazines for a handgun alone might take roughly a 50 round box to fill, so it doesn't surprise me how the media liberally applies terms like arsenal, stockpile, etc. By media standards, if you stock up on ammunition to avoid things like price spikes or shortages, you aren't smart or prepared, you are some demented lunatic on the verge of becoming unhinged...