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March 24, 2019, 09:22 PM | #1 |
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Permitless Carry - Mo/Ks
Just read through the Mo and Ks gun laws I could find online. As I read it, since both Mo and Ks are permitless States, no permit is needed to carry in either state. Can a Mo resident carry without a permit in Ks and vise versa?
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March 25, 2019, 10:19 AM | #2 |
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Yes. That's the way I understand it.
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March 25, 2019, 12:33 PM | #3 |
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Yes, but not in states that require a CCW permit. Also, in Missouri open carry is legal by state statute, but can be prohibited by local law unless you have a CCW permit. So it is still an advantage for a Missouri resident to have a CCW permit issued by Missouri.
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September 25, 2019, 11:57 PM | #4 |
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It is also advantageous for Missouri residents to get a permit so they can enjoy reciprocity in the ~ 40 or so states that honor Missouri permits.
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September 26, 2019, 05:12 PM | #5 |
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Residency is not a concern for these issues. The laws are all written concerning only where the infraction takes place, not where the person resides. Having a permit to carry in one state, or having a free to carry law in place will not mean anything in a state that only permits licensed carriers.
Think of this like the legal drinking age or smoking age. It doesn't matter if you reside in colorado that allows sale and possession of pot, there are a few places left in america that still forbid recreational or medical use of this drug.
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September 27, 2019, 09:43 AM | #6 |
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One thing to keep in mind--permitless carry dies not permit carrying in the vicinity of a K-12 school.
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September 28, 2019, 12:29 PM | #7 |
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...or Federal buildings, or some Federal parks, lakes, docks, or other properties.
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September 28, 2019, 04:34 PM | #9 |
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I was wrong. Deleted
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The school zone safety law, on the other hand, prohibits firearms within 1000 feet of a school property. So it applies not only to the school building(s) and to the school property, it also extends a gun-free buffer zone 1000 feet out from the boundaries of the school property. There are a couple of exceptions to the federal gun free school zone (GFSZ) law. One exception, I believe, says something about people who reside within the 1000 foot buffer. Another exception is a carry permit. But ... state reciprocity does NOT help here, because the GFSZ law says the exception applies to holders of permits issued by the state in which the school is located.
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September 28, 2019, 05:28 PM | #11 |
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The answer to all of this discussion is to read and understand the law of the federal government, the laws of your state of residency, and the laws of any state to which you will travel. It can't be too hard to do.
These ordinances aren't ten page dissertations, it's generally a few minutes to read and digest.
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I don't remember how many pages the New York SAFE Act took up. The Connecticut public act that followed soon after the SAFE Act was 169 pages. That's just the legislative act. Within that were some new laws, and many changes to existing laws. To fully understand it would require reading thousands of pages.
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Here's a link to an article explaining the GFSZ law: http://concealednation.org/2015/11/t...a-school-zone/
Exceptions: Quote:
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September 29, 2019, 01:29 PM | #15 |
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The other reason to go ahead with a Kansas permit is the ease in gun purchase; no NICS checks with a CCW. That won't help the OP on handgun purchases in Kansas, however, since he lives in MO.
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September 29, 2019, 09:57 PM | #16 |
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The GFSZ law is reason enough for me. If/when I'm visiting in another state, I'm likely not going to know when I'm within 1000 feet of a school. I have non-resident permits from three states where I can carry without a permit, just for that reason.
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