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October 3, 2012, 03:35 PM | #1 |
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How do you guys like the CZ 75B SA?
Anything I should be aware of? Pros/cons? Interestingly, it seems its the only CZ that has the slide rail running the entire length of the gun...any ideas why?
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October 3, 2012, 04:01 PM | #2 |
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Fine weapons. I'd buy one from the CZ Custom Shop, with trigger work already done. (Some need it, new in box, some don't.) I don't know if they all now come from the factory with the two-way adjustable trigger (for overtravel and takeup), but guns from the Custom Shop can have that feature.
The SA models have slightly different slides and frames, and ambidextrous safeties. These guns come in both .40 and 9mm. The .40 version has a full-length guide rod; the 9mm version does not. Over the past 6-7 years, triggers straight from the factory have not been all that great, but they do improve greatly with use. With the SA, this is less of a problem -- but I'd still consider having trigger work done, up front. You can get larger capacity mags from the CZ Shop, or just buy Mec-Gar 16-rounders. |
October 3, 2012, 04:02 PM | #3 |
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75b SA appears to have the 'same slide design' cosmetically as the standard 75b, some models can have the older style front to them. Probably just depends when it was made.
CZ 75b CZ 75b SA CZ 85 Combat I prefer the SA trigger and also the safety, but honestly its really the Beavertail that makes this gun. Its great.
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October 3, 2012, 05:19 PM | #4 | |
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The 75B DA/SA shown in the photo above looks to be a .40 -- as it appears to have the full-length guide rod at the front. That's not available with the 9mm versions -- hence a different slide. It would appear that the .40 DA/SA and SA models use the same slide, which explains the rails. (I've only had one 75B DA/DA in .40, and then only for a short while -- I wasn't into '.40' back then -- and I never paid attention to that part of the slide.) The 9mm SA and DA/SA models don't (or didn't) share the same slide. The extended slide rails are very slightly narrower ahead of the frame dust cover, so they may actually be there for looks, not function. The SA beaver tail is a real improvement, and that's also seen in some of the newer models, including the new stainless models. (The beaver tail was the minor difference in the frame I mentioned, above -- I should have been more specific.) Newer models, like the Stainless models, also have reversible mag releases, not possible with the older 75Bs. . Last edited by Walt Sherrill; October 3, 2012 at 06:05 PM. |
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October 3, 2012, 06:31 PM | #5 |
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Excellent gun. Mine is kinda tricked out, with target sights and a 2 lb trigger.
It's tough to find a better SA 9mm. |
October 4, 2012, 04:37 PM | #6 |
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Since the standard model can be both DA and/or SA, depending on whether the hammer is down, or cocked and locked, what is the attraction or advantage of the SA model?
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October 4, 2012, 05:29 PM | #7 |
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There is nothing wrong with the CZ-75 or that series of pistols.
That is uses "reversed" slide rails explains why they can run full-length....one might presume this adds strength until one looks at a Glock which has four tiny "rail pads" and yet handles the same loads. Overall it's a good gun. |
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Seems to be the familiar comments heard about these pistols and design; that of the intrinsic accuracy built into the CZ 75 design/pattern pistols.
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October 4, 2012, 06:01 PM | #9 |
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The additional length of the longer rails on the .40 slides and the 9mm SA slide may be more cosmetic than functional... as the rails reduce in size [narrow] as they extend beyond the frame.
(That rail size reduction suggests that some of the extra length doesn't do much, or that the extra length does something not intuitively obvious.) |
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October 5, 2012, 08:33 PM | #11 | |
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The SA model has some features not present on the DA/SA models: 1) two-way adjustable trigger (which can't be used with the DA/SA models); 2) larger and ambidextrous safeties; 3) a different, extended beavertail, and 4) the slides have extended rails, but I'm not sure they are fully functional. The 40 SA model (along with the .40 DA/DA model) has a full-length guide rod. A DA/SA model can be easily tuned to have a very good SA trigger, but the dedicated SA model is considered asier to shoot quickly and accurately. |
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October 6, 2012, 01:52 AM | #12 |
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Walt, the stainless steel and SA 75Bs both use the same beavertail, right? Also, if you convert a DA/SA to SAO, the triggers would be functionally identical, correct?
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October 6, 2012, 10:06 AM | #13 |
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I really liked everything about my SA... except the trigger.
It was gritty from the start, I smoothed it out a bit, but nothing close to being a great range toy. The fit with the safety was loose enough that I passed on adding parts to lighten up and smooth it out further. Too much movement if the trigger was pulled on with the safety on, made me leary of swapping the hammer for one with smaller sear contact notch. It was otherwise 100% in every way. Great pistol really, just not what I was looking for - all steel, large 9mm range toy with a nice trigger. |
October 6, 2012, 10:16 AM | #14 | |
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As for functional identity -- as far as I know all of the 75B-based guns have the same trigger-related internals; same parts, etc. The SA models remove the disconnector and incorporate a better trigger lever (long, slim, flat, with adjustments for over-travel and take-up). Unhappily, that trigger won't work in a gun that is still able to have a DA function. All of the 75Bs can be tweaked by a good gunsmith to have great SA triggers, but only the SA can be adjusted to get rid of the lengthy take-up (slack) found in the DA/SA trigger. The new Omega trigger system changes all of this, and I have no experience with that mechanism. . |
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October 6, 2012, 10:48 AM | #15 |
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I fitted a S/A trigger to my CZ 75 SPO1 great job much less pre-travel and faster re-set. Had it at the range today well impressed.
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October 6, 2012, 03:03 PM | #16 |
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I just picked up my 3rd CZ, A CZ 75B SA T set up by the CZ custom shop. Most accurate handgun that I have fired so far. The trigger is simply outstanding.
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