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Old February 9, 2019, 02:40 PM   #76
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But now, someone that is old enough to have a family is not old enough to purchase or legally carry a firearm. But a world famous 18-21 year old celebrity would most likely have some enhanced security measures in place. Even if civilian gun ownership was nonexistent, people with a higher status or wealth would still be able to have enhanced security measures. There’s always exceptions for people with power. Even in areas with highly restrictive gun laws, there’s expensive ways to be able to own and carry a gun.

Until gun ownership is removed from the constitution as a civil right, I will not support anything that hampers that civil right.
Can’t make it expensive or inconvenient to vote, speak or go to church can you?

Gun control may or may not work, but one thing I know, gun control is prohibited in a few short easy to understand words in the constitution. Anyone with even a small amount of reading comprehension understands what the second amendment says... just because people don’t agree with a right doesn’t nullify it.
Change the constitution then we will talk.

We as law abiding citizens must obey the law, and we will. The law makers know it.

Law enforcement shouldn’t enforce unconstitutional laws, but that’s my opinion.

The second amendment is not an opinion, there’s no wiggle room in “shall not be infringed”... it is a clear statement.

Let’s amend the constitution to make this country safe, if that’s what people believe. We’ve done it before. There’s a route to gun control. But as the constitution stands, gun control of any kind is a violation of civil rights.
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Old February 12, 2019, 09:07 AM   #77
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Can’t make it expensive or inconvenient to vote, speak or go to church can you?

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Old February 12, 2019, 10:12 AM   #78
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Let's be realistic. It is fun to rant.

1. Shall not be infringed is not any good as an argument for absolutely no gun laws. So that must have been just feel good rhetoric. We have discussed endless (see Frank Ettin's posts) how the BOR statements actually are instantiated.

2. Make it difficult to vote. Well, that has a long and noble history in American politics. It is debated nowadays.

3. Control of religion - same, dominant religion has take pot shots at other faiths for a long time.
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